inkman Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) So for the 3rd time this week, I’ve heard Paul Hamilton mention how the Sabres need to add size. Power 6’6” Tage 6’7” Dylan 6’3” Dahlin 6’3” Samuelsson 6’5” Okposo 6’0 (plays bigger) Zemgus 6’1” Tuch 6’2” Quinn 6’0 Mitts 6’1” on the flip side Skinner 5’10” Olofsson 5’11” Joki 5’11” Krebs 5’11” Peterka 5’11” What say you? Edited July 7, 2022 by inkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 You forgot Owen Power at 6'6" and Casey Mitts at 6'1" also I will give someone a dollar if they tell JJ Peterka he is small. Guy doesn't play small and that's really the key. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) The Sabres never lacked size really, they lacked heart/grit. Equating size with grit has and will forever be a problem on this board and in the media, especially for older guys like Hamilton. Edited July 7, 2022 by LGR4GM 8 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted July 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: The Sabres never lacked size really, they lacked heart/grit. Equating size with grit has and will forever be a problem on this board and in the media, especially for older guys like Hamilton. I couldn’t agree more 6 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: You forgot Owen Power at 6'6" and Casey Mitts at 6'1" also I will give someone a dollar if they tell JJ Peterka he is small. Guy doesn't play small and that's really the key. Fixed the OP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) Some fans get blinded by height. More so if they are a defenseman. The evaluation of skill is skewed somewhat because they are a “taller” player. I could think of one poster possibly two that fall into this category. As far as comparing ourselves to other teams in the league … I would think the Sabres are currently pretty much in the middle, if not leaning slightly towards a taller group. or is Size not Height? Edited July 7, 2022 by Zamboni 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 28 minutes ago, inkman said: So for the 3rd time this week, I’ve heard Paul Hamilton mention how the Sabres need to add size. is he really saying that? weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 I don't think this question can be answered honestly until they make the playoffs. Thats where you find out what your players are made of imo and I don't think size is necessarily the measuring stick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted July 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: is he really saying that? weird. He’s said it as long as I can remember. Maybe when Kane, Eichel and O’Reilly were here he took his foot off the pedal but otherwise he’s been saying it for decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 Sabres have historically had large bodied players that play smaller than they are (w/ notable exceptions like Gare & Peca who played way bigger than they were). They don't lack size. But could use some more guys w/ skill & speed that play big. Show us a team that doesn't need more of that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 I can’t quite put my finger on what they lack. But whatever that is, they should get more of it. #genius 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triumph_communes Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 I think it’s fair to size we lack some size currently, but that’s because a lot of the tall players haven’t grown into their frames fully yet. They will soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPuckYourself Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 I said yes, we need to add size. Some of those guys you mention are big but don't throw their weight around. I don't need to have everyone destroying people every other play but I want guys who can take hits and keep on trucking. I have no problem picking up smaller skilled players as long as the whole team doesn't look like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 This question requires the team bring back the "Derek Roy Test".... Let's not re-live those days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 23 minutes ago, Weave said: I can’t quite put my finger on what they lack. But whatever that is, they should get more of it. #genius Wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 Just now, IKnowPhysics said: Wins. #theonlymetricthatmatters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 I would really like to see this team play playoff hockey. That will tell us if the team has grit. Weed out those that can't handle it and add players that can. The Playoffs are the great Darwinian agent of change and we have not seen them go through that struggle yet. Hopefully this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 What will you say if the Sabres add Hutson, Savoie, Nazar or Kemelll? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmel Corn Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 Grit > Size. I also thought Tuch was 6'-4" (not 6'-2")? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 Tuch is indeed 6'4" according to the interwebs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) Judge me by my size, Hamilton? As all have noted, size is not the same as determination and grit. And we've had (and all teams do) our share of player who backed off when a confrontation might have resulted in a won puck battle, a forced turnover, a blocked shot, etc. There were definitely times in the downward slide last season where the team played small and was small with lineups featuring the following: Bryson, Butcher, Joker, Olofsson (with only one hand), Asplund (defensively sound but not pugnacious), Eakin, Bjork, Skinner, Thompson (big, but not a bruiser), and Ruotsalainen. But as the team got healthier and Tuch inserted and led arguably by Dahlin... they started collectively playing with more grit and assertiveness. Size is not the problem beyond getting some young players bulked up a bit...but that'll take care of itself in a couple seasons. Edited July 7, 2022 by DarthEbriate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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