Crusader1969 Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, ubkev said: Ink wasn't talking about Eichel or Sam. Sure he was. My comment is that Buffalo fans have an epidemic of hating their best players. He said “the best players show up and are *****”. If he wasn’t talking Eichel and Samson , who was he talking about ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Crusader1969 said: Sure he was. My comment is that Buffalo fans have an epidemic of hating their best players. He said “the best players show up and are *****”. If he wasn’t talking Eichel and Samson , who was he talking about ? Dahlin and Tremaine Edmunds. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Crusader1969 said: you saying that Eichel showed up and was a pile of sh*t proves my point. Samson is another example. I love Sam. Eichel not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 18 minutes ago, ubkev said: Ink wasn't talking about Eichel or Sam. 14 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said: Sure he was. My comment is that Buffalo fans have an epidemic of hating their best players. He said “the best players show up and are *****”. If he wasn’t talking Eichel and Samson , who was he talking about ? Right. Rasmus Dahlin fits that bill. Mittlestadt was headed down that road until Granato showed up. UPL was called the best goaltending prospect in all of hockey at one point. Alex Nylander tore up World Juniors and we were wowed. Risto and Zadorov were supposed to stabilize our Blue line for a decade. Mikhail Grigorenko was deemed a future #1 center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 36 minutes ago, ubkev said: Dahlin and Tremaine Edmunds. Lol Further, I wasn’t specifically talking about him - my point is that there is always a segment of Buffalo fans that hates their best players eichel had his detractors throughout his Sabres days before Edmunds it was Gilmore Who of course left Buffalo for NE and is now a 2 time 1st all pro, 2019 defensive player of year and super bowl champ 30 minutes ago, inkman said: Right. Rasmus Dahlin fits that bill. Mittlestadt was headed down that road until Granato showed up. UPL was called the best goaltending prospect in all of hockey at one point. Alex Nylander tore up World Juniors and we were wowed. Risto and Zadorov were supposed to stabilize our Blue line for a decade. Mikhail Grigorenko was deemed a future #1 center. None of those players fit the bill of the Sabres best players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 Power does have a physical side and his reach in front will be interesting to see how he uses it at the nhl level. He's gonna be hard to out muscle in corners and if his feet continue to improve he's got a lot of potential to be a very high end player. He's looking good in the ncaa right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 2 hours ago, inkman said: Right. Rasmus Dahlin fits that bill. Mittlestadt was headed down that road until Granato showed up. UPL was called the best goaltending prospect in all of hockey at one point. Alex Nylander tore up World Juniors and we were wowed. Risto and Zadorov were supposed to stabilize our Blue line for a decade. Mikhail Grigorenko was deemed a future #1 center. Not the 1 in Buffalo he didn't. He got the assist on Belarus' only goal while playing on the PP. He was trash in that tournament. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 40 minutes ago, Taro T said: Not the 1 in Buffalo he didn't. He got the assist on Belarus' only goal while playing on the PP. He was trash in that tournament. Probably wrong tournament. Still glad we were able to swindle Chitown out of Joker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 19 hours ago, inkman said: False. People hate being told players are great only to have them show up and be a pile of 💩. Fool me once, shame on.......shame on..you..?.... point is, can't get fooled again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 15 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Power does have a physical side and his reach in front will be interesting to see how he uses it at the nhl level. He's gonna be hard to out muscle in corners and if his feet continue to improve he's got a lot of potential to be a very high end player. He's looking good in the ncaa right now. a well-timed reach around yesterday, had he been in asplund's spot on the goal, would have served us well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 13 hours ago, inkman said: Probably wrong tournament. Still glad we were able to swindle Chitown out of Joker. He was indeed good in that tourney overall - 9 points in 7 games his draft year, 12 in 7 the year after we drafted him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Thorny said: He was indeed good in that tourney overall - 9 points in 7 games his draft year, 12 in 7 the year after we drafted him Not in '18 he wasn't. He should've dominated but didn't come close. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digger Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Thorny said: He was indeed good in that tourney overall - 9 points in 7 games his draft year, 12 in 7 the year after we drafted him 4 hours ago, Taro T said: Not in '18 he wasn't. He should've dominated but didn't come close. Yes I agree 2018 wasn't the year. Alex Nylander was really good in the 2016 WJC though. That was the year most expected William Nylander to dominate (but he got hurt right at the start of the tournament). Alex exceeded expectations that year with 4G, 5A, 9PTS in 7GP. In general I assume that Tim Murray was confident that he was going to follow his bother's development. Obviously wish we had chosen better. Edited December 9, 2021 by Digger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 Alex Nylander has 10 points in 19 games in the AHL this year. Or a negligibly better pace than when he put up 28 in 65 in the AHL as an 18-year-old. Some guys develop in curves, others in straight lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 7 hours ago, dudacek said: Alex Nylander has 10 points in 19 games in the AHL this year. Or a negligibly better pace than when he put up 28 in 65 in the AHL as an 18-year-old. Some guys develop in curves, others in straight lines. This is the key. They need to draft players like Reinhart who just constantly improve. Power will do that, Quinn will, Peterka will, etc... they are looking for the best right players. We'll see if they can identify them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 From the Athletic's post-aborted-WJC column giving impressions of a bunch of players: Quote D Owen Power (Buffalo Sabres): Uncanny ability to spin under pressure in the corner, dragging pucks through his feet and pivoting in one smooth motion to escape and advance the play. Was seeing the ice beautifully in possession too. Great recognition of when to join. Active off the line. Hat trick in the opener and they all came in different ways. There was a seeing eye shot. There was a one-timer. And there was a switch to the goal line on the power play where he pounced on a rebound. Toe drags incredibly well for his size. Often below goal line rotating off the point. Shapes play on his edges with his footwork like a smaller player. When Chara was in his (very long) prime, one of the underrated qualities that made him an elite defenseman was that it was basically impossible to dump-and-chase into his side of the ice (plus a decent chunk of the the other side). His range and smarts, plus decent puck skills, enabled him to retrieve the puck and get it out of the d-zone just about every time. If we're very lucky, Power will bring that to the table. It won't happen right away, but as he learns the NHL game, it might happen, and it could be transformative. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 17 minutes ago, nfreeman said: From the Athletic's post-aborted-WJC column giving impressions of a bunch of players: When Chara was in his (very long) prime, one of the underrated qualities that made him an elite defenseman was that it was basically impossible to dump-and-chase into his side of the ice (plus a decent chunk of the the other side). His range and smarts, plus decent puck skills, enabled him to retrieve the puck and get it out of the d-zone just about every time. If we're very lucky, Power will bring that to the table. It won't happen right away, but as he learns the NHL game, it might happen, and it could be transformative. Boy, Chara’s defensive game, even without the nasty? Sign me up. Power, Mule, and a Dahlin that doesn’t have to be the featured D man? Hope. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 hour ago, nfreeman said: From the Athletic's post-aborted-WJC column giving impressions of a bunch of players: When Chara was in his (very long) prime, one of the underrated qualities that made him an elite defenseman was that it was basically impossible to dump-and-chase into his side of the ice (plus a decent chunk of the the other side). His range and smarts, plus decent puck skills, enabled him to retrieve the puck and get it out of the d-zone just about every time. If we're very lucky, Power will bring that to the table. It won't happen right away, but as he learns the NHL game, it might happen, and it could be transformative. I am reading Mark Messier’s book. He quotes Scott Stevens as saying you can’t evaluate a Dman until he has played 250 games at the NHL level. His reasoning is that there are a lot of nuances to learn. Dahlin is at that threshold and Power will need time to adjust. I like the D, especially the LHD if you throw in Mule + Johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 23 minutes ago, French Collection said: I am reading Mark Messier’s book. He quotes Scott Stevens as saying you can’t evaluate a Dman until he has played 250 games at the NHL level. His reasoning is that there are a lot of nuances to learn. Dahlin is at that threshold and Power will need time to adjust. I like the D, especially the LHD if you throw in Mule + Johnson. I am throwing out every single game Dahlin played last year under Krueger and Smith as I believe they were wasted on forcing Dahlin to play a style of hockey that was boring and negated his greatest strength (puck carrying). 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 hour ago, nfreeman said: From the Athletic's post-aborted-WJC column giving impressions of a bunch of players: When Chara was in his (very long) prime, one of the underrated qualities that made him an elite defenseman was that it was basically impossible to dump-and-chase into his side of the ice (plus a decent chunk of the the other side). His range and smarts, plus decent puck skills, enabled him to retrieve the puck and get it out of the d-zone just about every time. If we're very lucky, Power will bring that to the table. It won't happen right away, but as he learns the NHL game, it might happen, and it could be transformative. Power looks very strong in this area against his peers. Uses his length to protect the puck and his skating to quick-pivot. Then once he shakes loose he skates into space, finds the open man, and puts it on the tape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 With the frozen 4 being slated for April 7 - 9. We are now within 100 days of Owen Power signing with The Sabres 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 9 hours ago, Crusader1969 said: With the frozen 4 being slated for April 7 - 9. We are now within 100 days of Owen Power signing with The Sabres Sabres currently have 11 games scheduled for after the 9th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 4 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Sabres currently have 11 games scheduled for after the 9th. Will likely be more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, pi2000 said: Will likely be more. Playoffs?!?!?!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Ghost of Yuri said: Playoffs?!?!?!!! Aren't we a bottom 5 team right now haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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