Contempt Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 On 6/28/2022 at 12:08 PM, Brawndo said: This is the only reason I’m hesitant to move 28 for Kane Why do I want Kane? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Curt said: That’s good. Appears that he wants to show everyone (1) hey look, I’m healthy! and (2) hey look, I really want to be in NA! Not surprising given previous reports that he tried to come over for his draft season but a visa snafu held him up. I would feel really good about drafting him at #16. Even better at 28. Will be fascinating to watch this draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 12 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said: Even better at 28. Will be fascinating to watch this draft My personal opinion. Basically 0% chance that Miroshnichenko is available at #28. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Contempt said: Why do I want Kane? https://www.sabrespace.com/community/topic/31784-patrick-kane/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 (edited) I hate to update the consensus rankings again so soon, but actually I found 2 updates for some of the rankings in my list of 15. The 15 are 2 each from the Athletic and TSN, Sportsnet, THN, THW, Dobber, McKeens (but only to 32), Yahoo, Smaht, Daily Faceoff, Draft Prospects, FC/Sportsing News, and Leafsnation. Top 7 - Wright, Cooley, Slafkovsky, Nemec, Jiricek, Savoie and Kemell 8-12 - Gauthier, Lekkerimaki, Nazar, Yurov, Korchinski 13-16 - Mintyukov, Mateychuk, Lambert and Kasper - I feel much better about Lambert after hearing about his amazing skating from Kris Baker. 17-20 - Geekie, Ohgren, McGroarty, and Howard 21-23 - Kulich, Miroshniichenko, Ostlund 24-28 - Snuggerud, Firkus, Pickering, Mesar, Chesley 29-32 - Gaucher, Luneau, Bichsel, Odelius Second Rd 33-35 - Beck, Hutson, Del Bel Belluz 36-38 - Casey, Goyette, Rinzel 39-42 - Trikozov, Havelid, Hughes, Nelson - Maybe we take RHD Havelid at 41 and then his twin brother a goalie later in the draft. 43-47 - Bystedt, Zhilkin, Salomonsson, Lorenz, Sapovaliv 48-51 - Perevalov, Schaefer, Lamoureux, Lutz 52-55 - Nyman, Forsmark, Ingram, Hamara 56-60 - Lund, Warren, Sykora, Lindgren, Ludwinski, 61-65 - McConnell-Baker, Poitras, James, Grudinin and Minten Edited June 30, 2022 by GASabresIUFAN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 Given the various tiers, I want to balance out speed and power among whoever is my BPA, while ensuring a RHD (or Hutson) is one of the 4 picks. My preference is listed 1st. And if for some wild reason Jiricek falls, I take him at 9. This year I play it conservative and make my high picks rather than trade up -- there are still too many gaps in the pipeline to bundle and move around too much. And day 2 of the draft I take a couple goalies. Option 1: 9) Savoie/Nazar; 16) Miroshnichenko/Ohgren/Yurov; 28) Chesley/Rinzel; 41) Trikozov/Beck Option 2: 9) Kasper/Gauthier; 16) Ohgren/Miroshnicenko/Yurov; 28) Snuggerud/Trikozov/Gaucher; 41) Chesley/Hutson/Rinzel/Havelid/Nelson/Salomonsson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contempt Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 6 hours ago, Brawndo said: https://www.sabrespace.com/community/topic/31784-patrick-kane/ This isn't a reason to want Kane. He's old, he has a history of being a douche noodle, and he's expensive. Why is he what this particular team needs at this time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 6 hours ago, DarthEbriate said: Given the various tiers, I want to balance out speed and power among whoever is my BPA, while ensuring a RHD (or Hutson) is one of the 4 picks. My preference is listed 1st. And if for some wild reason Jiricek falls, I take him at 9. This year I play it conservative and make my high picks rather than trade up -- there are still too many gaps in the pipeline to bundle and move around too much. And day 2 of the draft I take a couple goalies. Option 1: 9) Savoie/Nazar; 16) Miroshnichenko/Ohgren/Yurov; 28) Chesley/Rinzel; 41) Trikozov/Beck Option 2: 9) Kasper/Gauthier; 16) Ohgren/Miroshnicenko/Yurov; 28) Snuggerud/Trikozov/Gaucher; 41) Chesley/Hutson/Rinzel/Havelid/Nelson/Salomonsson These are solid choices. In option 1, would you take Kasper at 16 if he is still there? I could see taking Trikozov/Beck at 28. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabresparaavida Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 9 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: I hate to update the consensus rankings againso soon, but actually I found 2 updates for some of the rankings in my list of 15. The 15 are 2 each from the Athletic and TSN, Sportsnet, THN, THW, Dobber, McKeens (but only to 32), Yahoo, Smaht, Daily Faceoff, Draft Prospects, FC/Sportsing News, and Leafsnation. Top 7 - Wright, Cooley, Slafkovsky, Nemec, Jiricek, Savoie and Kemell 8-12 - Gauthier, Lekkerimaki, Nazar, Yurov, Korchinski 13-16 - Mintyukov, Mateychuk, Lambert and Kasper - I feel much better about Lambert have hearing about his amazing skating from Kris Baker. 17-20 - Geekie, Ohgren, McGroarty, and Howard 21-23 - Kulich, Miroshniichenko, Ostlund 24-28 - Snuggerud, Firkus, Pickering, Mesar, Chesley 29-32 - Gaucher, Luneau, Bichsel, Second Rd 33-35 - Odelius, Beck, Hutson, Del Bel Belluz 36-38 - Casey, Goyette, Rinzel 39-42 - Trikozov, Havelid, Hughes, Nelson - Maybe we take RHD Havelid at 41 and then his twin brother a goalie later in the draft. 43-47 - Bystedt, Zhilkin, Salomonsson, Lorenz, Sapovaliv 48-51 - Perevalov, Schaefer, Lamoureux, Lutz 52-55 - Nyman, Forsmark, Ingram, Hamara 56-60 - Lund, Warren, Sykora, Lindgren, Ludwinski, 61-65 - McConnell-Baker, Poitras, James, Grudinin and Minten I like this ranking a lot, no one is much out of place. You are missing someone in 29-32 though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 23 minutes ago, sabresparaavida said: I like this ranking a lot, no one is much out of place. You are missing someone in 29-32 though. Odelius is on the wrong line. 33-35 had one extra. I fixed it in my earlier post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 2 hours ago, French Collection said: These are solid choices. In option 1, would you take Kasper at 16 if he is still there? I could see taking Trikozov/Beck at 28. That's the big question in diversifying. If I get the skilled/fast center at 9, do I double up on the center at 16 or go for a potential high-impact winger in Ohgren/Miro/Yurov. If prioritizing centers within the same tier... Then yes, I might just do that. Savoie/Nazar, Kasper (or Kulich or Lambert), Trikozov, RHD also works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 Not gonna lie... after pick like 40... everyone starts to blend in somewhat and it has made creating a list pretty difficult. Anyways hopefully on Tuesday I will have it all done and it should be around 70 names but this is a weird draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 21 hours ago, Curt said: My personal opinion. Basically 0% chance that Miroshnichenko is available at #28. I’m more optimistic (or would that be pessimistic?) either way, I’m thinking there is a decent chance he could be available. We will find out in a week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 21 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Not gonna lie... after pick like 40... everyone starts to blend in somewhat and it has made creating a list pretty difficult. Anyways hopefully on Tuesday I will have it all done and it should be around 70 names but this is a weird draft. After that, my guess is most people's interest in the draft wanes until they actually see the kids perform the following season. Bloom, Nadeau (although I liked him on draft day), Kozak and Novikov were all mostly unknown to even most draft observers like us and their blossoming this past season was fun to watch. Even beyond those guys, I don't remember the last time we saw so many of our prospects across the board taking such a big step forward (ok except UPL). Levi, Rousek, Cederqvist, Huglen, Portillo, Costantini, and of course JJP and Quinn all had great years. With so many guys stepping forward, it's really hard to create a prospects ranking chart, which is a great problem to have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 https://www.nhl.com/sabres/news/buffalo-sabres-kevyn-adams-nhl-draft-preview/c-334784336?fbclid=IwAR3LKvz_iIYWLVO9vSIDXOkiDQIe6lTWFJlDjiEHEP8bqmXFU50967pu9b4&fs=e&s=cl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 On 5/10/2021 at 10:12 AM, Buffalonill said: Lets,get this up now since we're gonna be in the bottom of the league for the Foreseeable future 1. Shane Wright (C, CAN) 2. Brad Lambert (C, FIN) 3. Matthew Savoie (C, CAN) 3. Ivan Miroshnichenko (LW, RUS) 4. Simon Nemec (D, SLK) 5. Maddox Fleming (F, USA) 6. Tristan Luneau (D, CAN) 7. Rutger McGroarty (C, USA) 8. Danila Yurov (F, RUS) 9. Isaac Howard (LW, USA) 11. Seamus Casey (D, USA) 12. Jack Hughes (F, USA) 13. David Jiricek (D, CZE) 14. Juraj Slafkovsky (LW, SLK) 15. Jack Devine (F, USA) 16. Frank Nazar (RW, USA) Mock draft : 2022 sites https://drafthd.com/2022-nhl-mock-draft/ https://www.lines.com/nhl/drafts/2022 https://www.capfriendly.com/mock-draft/126261 Three-Headed Monster: Meet Wright, Savoie and Lambert, the next great draft trio https://www.si.com/hockey/news/three-headed-monster-meet-wright-savoie-and-lambert-the-next-great-draft-trio Interesting to revisit the opening post to see what perceptions were a year ago Who the ***** is Maddox Fleming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 37 minutes ago, dudacek said: Interesting to revisit the opening post to see what perceptions were a year ago Who the ***** is Maddox Fleming https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/593365/maddox-fleming I was curious. Looks like he was with the USNDTP and dropped out. He played in the USHL and had decent numbers. I haven’t seen his name mentioned anywhere this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabresparaavida Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 Ideal draft IMO: 9: traded up with pick 41 (maybe Ryan Johnson too/instead) for pick5/6 where Nemec has fallen. Sabres take Nemec and in 2 years have a top 4 of Power-Dahlin Samuelsson-Nemec 16: Take Yurov (if he’s still there) and get a prospect with top 10 skill that could be an elite first line winger in the future. 28: a little less sure for this pick, but definitely would be quite happy with Miro/Lambert as another boom/bust pick that could have incredible return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 I wonder how this changes things If at all 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 10 minutes ago, Brawndo said: I wonder how this changes things If at all I’d be surprised if Russia lets their athletes continue to go to western leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoath Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 Which ones will be in the building next week? Get them a contract and a place to stay ASAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 22 minutes ago, Brawndo said: I wonder how this changes things If at all That changes everything.. Russian hockey players will have defect like the olden days. I wouldn't draft a Russian that isn't already out of the country I wouldn't be surprised if this news sends a signal to Russian Athletes and they start trying to get out in advance. On a positive note this can't be good for most of the Russian population who I guess won't be happy seeing their sons drafted for Putin's war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 On interesting side note Is Fedotov’s Team is CSKA which is the Red Army and also Putin’s Favorite KHL Team. I wonder if this will apply to all players in Russia or only those from CSKA. From a Sabres Perspective Prokhor Poltapov also plays for the same organization but he is signed through the 2024-25 Season anyways and a lot can happen in 3 seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 33 minutes ago, Brawndo said: On interesting side note Is Fedotov’s Team is CSKA which is the Red Army and also Putin’s Favorite KHL Team. I wonder if this will apply to all players in Russia or only those from CSKA. From a Sabres Perspective Prokhor Poltapov also plays for the same organization but he is signed through the 2024-25 Season anyways and a lot can happen in 3 seasons This is a very good point. CSKA is kind of a team apart. It is formerly the team that all the Soviet national team players played for, the KHLs most successful team, Putin’s favorite team, and also it is owned by the Russian government. Normal rules do not apply to this team. Also, I couldn’t find it anywhere, but I wonder what Fedetov’s KHL contract status is. Was his KHL contract complete or was he attempting to skip out on part of his contract? That makes a big difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 19 hours ago, ddaryl said: That changes everything.. Russian hockey players will have defect like the olden days. I wouldn't draft a Russian that isn't already out of the country I wouldn't be surprised if this news sends a signal to Russian Athletes and they start trying to get out in advance. On a positive note this can't be good for most of the Russian population who I guess won't be happy seeing their sons drafted for Putin's war. I don’t think that’s the case. Plenty of other Russian players have signed contracts to come over to the NHL this offseason. None of them have been arrested apart from Fedotov. I think we need to ask what makes this particular case different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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