Hoss Posted June 14, 2021 Report Share Posted June 14, 2021 Little insight into drafting for each franchise since 2005. https://theathletic.com/2499520/ Sabres rank (only 30 teams on the list): 2nd in total picks (96, behind 105 by Chicago) T-13th for NHL players drafted (one of four teams with 42) 25th in hit rate (this is a percentage based solely on the two numbers above) 11th in total games played 22nd in points T-29th in points per game (tied at 0.34 with Minnesota, only New Jersey had fewer at 0.31) 20th in games played per pick 27th in points per pick Best and worst in each category: Total picks - Chicago (105) most, Pittsburgh (72) fewest NHLers drafted - Boston/Columbus (51) most, Vancouver (29) fewest Hit % - Boston (65%) best, Chicago/Vancouver (39%) worst Games played - Los Angeles (13,246) most, Vancouver (4,519) fewest Points - Edmonton (5,294) most, Vancouver (1,749) fewest Points per game - Colorado (0.59) most, New Jersey (0.31) fewest Games played per pick - Los Angeles (147) most, Vancouver (61) fewest Points per pick - Boston (61) most, Vancouver/New Jersey (24) fewest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted June 14, 2021 Report Share Posted June 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Hoss said: Little insight into drafting for each franchise since 2005. https://theathletic.com/2499520/ Sabres rank (only 30 teams on the list): 2nd in total picks (96, behind 105 by Chicago) T-13th for NHL players drafted (one of four teams with 42) 25th in hit rate (this is a percentage based solely on the two numbers above) 11th in total games played 22nd in points T-29th in points per game (tied at 0.34 with Minnesota, only New Jersey had fewer at 0.31) 20th in games played per pick 27th in points per pick Best and worst in each category: Total picks - Chicago (105) most, Pittsburgh (72) fewest NHLers drafted - Boston/Columbus (51) most, Vancouver (29) fewest Hit % - Boston (65%) best, Chicago/Vancouver (39%) worst Games played - Los Angeles (13,246) most, Vancouver (4,519) fewest Points - Edmonton (5,294) most, Vancouver (1,749) fewest Points per game - Colorado (0.59) most, New Jersey (0.31) fewest Games played per pick - Los Angeles (147) most, Vancouver (61) fewest Points per pick - Boston (61) most, Vancouver/New Jersey (24) fewest There is a thread I started based on rosters from earlier this season. Buffalo actually led in number of players drafted that were on current rosters. Didn’t put any quality of picks in my summary, just let everyone form their own interpretation of why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 14, 2021 Report Share Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) Draft Guides are starting to be released end of this week and so on... https://nhlentrydraft.com/news/fchockeys-2021-nhl-draft-guide-pre-order-open/ This one comes out around June 30th EP Rinkside comes out sometime this week. McKeen's is sometime in June so keep an eye out for those if you are interested. Edited June 14, 2021 by LGR4GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRobertEichel Posted June 14, 2021 Report Share Posted June 14, 2021 4 hours ago, tom webster said: There is a thread I started based on rosters from earlier this season. Buffalo actually led in number of players drafted that were on current rosters. Didn’t put any quality of picks in my summary, just let everyone form their own interpretation of why. Poor asset management is a big reason. I'm looking at you, Tim Murray. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted June 14, 2021 Report Share Posted June 14, 2021 20 minutes ago, TerryFolds said: Poor asset management is a big reason. I'm looking at you, Tim Murray. Not signing Hagel was ridiculous by Botts. He is the perfect bottom 6 winger for this team. Adds jam and was in house. What a waste of an asset. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 15, 2021 Report Share Posted June 15, 2021 Final Rankings: Pronman https://theathletic.com/2620093/2021/06/15/nhl-draft-prospects-ranking-2021-corey-pronmans-final-top-151/ 1) Power 2) Guenther 3) Eklund 4) Hughes 5) Beniers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted June 15, 2021 Report Share Posted June 15, 2021 Consensus! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted June 15, 2021 Report Share Posted June 15, 2021 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Final Rankings: Pronman https://theathletic.com/2620093/2021/06/15/nhl-draft-prospects-ranking-2021-corey-pronmans-final-top-151/ 1) Power 2) Guenther 3) Eklund 4) Hughes 5) Beniers Ruh Roh😜 “Paging Mr. Buffalonill, paging Mr. Buffalonill”😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 15, 2021 Report Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) I don't care for Pronman. Anyone who is 5'11" or shorter has to have absolute blazing speed or he bags on them for not "He’s undersized and not an amazing skater for his size". He also rarely takes into account age. Zellweger is the youngest player in the draft with a Sept 10th bday. He's 10 months younger and Beniers or Power. Edited June 15, 2021 by LGR4GM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 15, 2021 Report Share Posted June 15, 2021 Here is a guy I like in the second. He's young for the class and has a lot of potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted June 15, 2021 Report Share Posted June 15, 2021 2 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Final Rankings: Pronman https://theathletic.com/2620093/2021/06/15/nhl-draft-prospects-ranking-2021-corey-pronmans-final-top-151/ 1) Power 2) Guenther 3) Eklund 4) Hughes 5) Beniers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LGR4GM Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 Eklund has produced the most SHL points for a draft eligible since Elias Lindholm. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 Eklund just gives off that Backstrom/Petterson vibe: talented Swede undervalued in a year with no obvious franchise guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, dudacek said: Eklund just gives off that Backstrom/Petterson vibe: talented Swede undervalued in a year with no obvious franchise guy. I want to know actually how tall he is and I wish he had played at the WJC20. Covid I think partially explains the dip in his 2nd half production but man does he just contribute all over the ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) I've updated my board. I have 14 ballots as I've now added Pronman, ISS, Smaht (for @LGR4GM), & Draft prospects. Also Kennedy at SI/THN has updated his board. We are down to 13 unanimous picks as ISS dropped Wallstadt from their 1st rd rankings. Also Matt Coronato is on all the lists except Kennedy's and Lambos is on all except McKeens from back in April. It will be interesting to see what happens with Tier 7 when updated rankings come out. I also now have 59 players with at least 1 vote. Powers is now clearly the No. 1 pick based on the consensus. TOP 8 Tier 1 Powers Tier 2 Beniers, Hughes, Eklund, Guenther and Clarke Tier 3 Edvinsson and Johnson Big Gap TOP 14 Tier 4 Wallstadt, McTavish Lucius Tier 5 Lysell, Sillinger, & Raty Gap TOP 26 Tier 7 Lambos, Coronato, and Svechkov (13 ballots) (Note Svechkov is only on 12 he has been on every ballot since May) Tier 8 Ceulemans, Chibrikov (11-12 ballots) Tier 9 Cossa, Olausson, L'Heureux, Pinelli, Bourgault, Othmann and Robertson (11-12 ballots) Big Gap TOP 33 Tier 10 Bolduc, Toumaala, Rosen, Chayka & Dean (9-10 ballots) Tier 11 Stanhoven, Samoskevich (8 ballots) Others to Watch Tier 12 Svozil, Pastujov, Martino (4-6 ballots) Tier 13 Behrens, Hreschuk, and Koivunen (3 ballots) Edited June 16, 2021 by GASabresIUFAN 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 Owen Zellweger is going to make someone's 2nd round look good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Owen Zellweger is going to make someone's 2nd round look good. He only has one vote on my board and that was 31st by Elite Prospects. The math says Martino will also fall into the 2nd and he is a guy I think will excel as well. 59 guys with at least one vote is a very high number since I've been doing these consolidated boards. Tons of Russians on the board and I think has to do with COVID causing no OHL and limited other viewings of many of the prospects. This is the draft to have a big scouting department. Oops. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoath Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) Pretty sure pronman was not high on Power about a week ago. Edit: Was thinking if a different person. Edited June 16, 2021 by steveoath I'm thinking of Will Scouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, steveoath said: Pretty sure pronman was not high on Power about a week ago. What has changed? Can you provide proof of this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoath Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 See my edit. Mixed him up with scouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, steveoath said: See my edit. Mixed him up with scouch. Scouch is high on Power. He sees him as a guy that has things to work on and improve. He is not a slam dunk, play day one NHL star 1 OA that steps in and is effective out of the gate. He sees other players as more well rounded at the moment. He is more of a slow simmering project. The absolute right move is for Power to go back to Michigan and work on the areas of his game that need improvement. Not all 17 and 18 year old kids are finished products. The key for a guy like Power is giving him the time and opportunity to work on those areas that need improvement and that isn’t in the NHL at 18. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 https://www.nhl.com/news/matthew-beniers-expected-to-be-healthy-for-nhl-camps/c-325358908 Didn't see this posted but might have missed it On Beniers: "The 18-year-old missed the final two games of the tournament, and is expected to need four weeks to recover." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 14 hours ago, Flashsabre said: Scouch is high on Power. He sees him as a guy that has things to work on and improve. He is not a slam dunk, play day one NHL star 1 OA that steps in and is effective out of the gate. He sees other players as more well rounded at the moment. He is more of a slow simmering project. The absolute right move is for Power to go back to Michigan and work on the areas of his game that need improvement. Not all 17 and 18 year old kids are finished products. The key for a guy like Power is giving him the time and opportunity to work on those areas that need improvement and that isn’t in the NHL at 18. Scouch is not high on Power. He has Power at 6-7 on his draft board. 10 hours ago, Thorny said: https://www.nhl.com/news/matthew-beniers-expected-to-be-healthy-for-nhl-camps/c-325358908 Didn't see this posted but might have missed it On Beniers: "The 18-year-old missed the final two games of the tournament, and is expected to need four weeks to recover." That’s good. I’m surprised it says 4 weeks since he was on the ice skating the next day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 17, 2021 Report Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Curt said: That’s good. I’m surprised it says 4 weeks since he was on the ice skating the next day. Just good to know he wasn't more seriously injured. 37 minutes ago, Curt said: Scouch is not high on Power. He has Power at 6-7 on his draft board. Yea, he has Power lower than I do. Edited June 17, 2021 by LGR4GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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