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On 7/18/2020 at 3:27 PM, LGR4GM said:

It would be really cool if they played here. I hope it happens. 

I agree with you that it would be cool if Toronto decided to play in Buffalo. However, it seems that the players are resistant to playing in a minor league stadium because the accommodations don't satisfy them. 

The attached link is a 13 minute plus segment of a reporter who follows the Blue Jays talking on WGR about the issue of where they might play. Regarding the Buffalo location it is the players who are nixing the deal. That is not to say that it won't happen but it is unlikely. 

https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/07-20-tsn-blue-jays-reporter-scott-mitchell

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Isn’t the schedule all worked out? If they play in Pittsburgh when the Pirates are away, I’m sure their current schedule would have to be reworked, which means everyone’s schedule has to be redone. 

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1 hour ago, LabattBlue said:

Isn’t the schedule all worked out? If they play in Pittsburgh when the Pirates are away, I’m sure their current schedule would have to be reworked, which means everyone’s schedule has to be redone. 

There are no fans so there shouldn't be a problem playing more than one game per day in any park.

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1 hour ago, Eleven said:

There are no fans so there shouldn't be a problem playing more than one game per day in any park.

The only issue is whether or not the stadium has enough "major league class" locker rooms, meeting rooms, training facilities, etc. to accommodate 4 teams' worth of guys used to being overly pampered or only 2 teams' worth.  But even if the stadium could only accommodate 2 teams, start 1 game at noon & the other at 8PM. That should leave enough time to sanitize & change things over between games.

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1 hour ago, Taro T said:

The only issue is whether or not the stadium has enough "major league class" locker rooms, meeting rooms, training facilities, etc. to accommodate 4 teams' worth of guys used to being overly pampered or only 2 teams' worth.  But even if the stadium could only accommodate 2 teams, start 1 game at noon & the other at 8PM. That should leave enough time to sanitize & change things over between games.

Yep.  Is the NHL doing all of its games in two stadiums, or is it spreading the games across the cities?  I mean games, not practice time.

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1 hour ago, Eleven said:

Yep.  Is the NHL doing all of its games in two stadiums, or is it spreading the games across the cities?  I mean games, not practice time.

Thought the games will all be in the NHL rink in each town, so that last game of the evening could be seriously like skating in mud if the building AC isn't working at peak condition.

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1 hour ago, Taro T said:

Thought the games will all be in the NHL rink in each town, so that last game of the evening could be seriously like skating in mud if the building AC isn't working at peak condition.

Maybe, but it wouldn’t have to fight with the heat of 19 thousand bodies, though.

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1 minute ago, SwampD said:

Maybe, but it wouldn’t have to fight with the heat of 19 thousand bodies, though.

That is true.  But was either building built with the expectation that there would be a need for game quality ice in August?

Especially 180 game minutes worth of game quality ice (discounting any possibility of OT's.)

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8 hours ago, LabattBlue said:

Isn’t the schedule all worked out? If they play in Pittsburgh when the Pirates are away, I’m sure their current schedule would have to be reworked, which means everyone’s schedule has to be redone. 

They didn't like Buffalo because the clubhouse is too small, yet want to share an MLB park with another active team. How many clubhouses do you think PNC park has? Four?

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7 hours ago, Eleven said:

There are no fans so there shouldn't be a problem playing more than one game per day in any park.

Except that players hang around for a good chunk of the day getting BP in, physical therapy, etc. Sharing an MLB park may be even worse than the alleged shortcoming in Buffalo.

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6 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Except that players hang around for a good chunk of the day getting BP in, physical therapy, etc. Sharing an MLB park may be even worse than the alleged shortcoming in Buffalo.

They'll be fine.  The PT folks travel with the team and BP, really?  That's an hour.  The'll find the time.

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22 hours ago, JohnC said:

I agree with you that it would be cool if Toronto decided to play in Buffalo. However, it seems that the players are resistant to playing in a minor league stadium because the accommodations don't satisfy them. 

The attached link is a 13 minute plus segment of a reporter who follows the Blue Jays talking on WGR about the issue of where they might play. Regarding the Buffalo location it is the players who are nixing the deal. That is not to say that it won't happen but it is unlikely. 

https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/07-20-tsn-blue-jays-reporter-scott-mitchell

My source in Buffalo also says its the players.  Minor league facility, minor league town.  They prefer to just be on the road.  That tells me a lot about the actual Covid concern level of the players if they are willing to be on the road all the time.  

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I can't wrap my ahead around anyone caring where they play their games. You can't go watch, so what difference does it make? 

As a Canadian, I'm glad they aren't playing in Toronto. If i was in Buffalo, I'd prefer people who were in Tampa the day before not be walking around town.

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The Pennsylvania Department of Health refused the Blue Jays Request to play games at PNC Park. 

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8 hours ago, Brawndo said:

Looks like Pittsburgh is the choice 

Looks like not.

 

The Pennsylvania Department of Health announced today that it will not allow the Toronto Blue Jays to play their shortened 2020 season at PNC Park in Pittsburgh. https://es.pn/3hvLwUR

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On 7/20/2020 at 7:01 PM, Taro T said:

That is true.  But was either building built with the expectation that there would be a need for game quality ice in August?

Especially 180 game minutes worth of game quality ice (discounting any possibility of OT's.)

Toronto's rink wasn't even built with the expectation that there would be a need for game quality ice in May.

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41 minutes ago, Eleven said:

Toronto's rink wasn't even built with the expectation that there would be a need for game quality ice in May.

Touche.

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2 hours ago, Eleven said:

Toronto's rink wasn't even built with the expectation that there would be a need for game quality ice in May.

Freezer burn!

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On 7/19/2020 at 3:24 PM, Let's Go B-Lo said:

The Lancaster Dome would have been built a la the Astrodome and both teams would have been gone by the early 2000's when the community refused to build 2 new stadiums.  A big part of what helped the community keep the Bills was the flexibility of the footprint at RWS to make changes and that it was football only.  All those multi-purpose stadiums built in the 70's were terrible for all the sports they played in them and they have all been replaced.  NOT building that dome was one of the biggest blessings the city ever got.

Just like Three Rivers Stadium in PGH, right?

I don’t know if you’ve been through that town lately, but the location of the two replacements for TRS looks like an absolute Charlie Foxtrot.

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On 7/18/2020 at 3:27 PM, LGR4GM said:

It would be really cool if they played here. I hope it happens. 

Buffalo Blue Jays? It does have a nice ring to it.

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On 7/17/2020 at 3:08 PM, IKnowPhysics said:

Agreed.  Buffalo corporate dollars are already scraping by to support two of the big four.  The economics of baseball with a soft salary cap would kick the hell out of the profitability of a MLB team in WNY.  It'd likely force even a rich owner to downgrade payrolls and strap competitiveness.  Dodgers, Cubs, Yankees, and Red Sox all spent north of $200M last year.  These teams are major corporations supported by major corporations.  The Bills only spent $158M AAV in 2019.  It's highly unlikely that we could field a competitive MLB team that at least breaks even in profit.

The silver lining - not to be overlooked - is that we have the best and biggest stadium in MiLB located in the heart of our downtown, field a competitive team (when our affiliate isn't hot trash, cough, Mets, cough), have dirt cheap tickets that make going to games extremely family friendly (as opposed to MLB-mandated ticket prices), good local food at concession stands, make a sustainable profit, and still have money left over for fireworks*.

Minor league dirt piles are old-timey romantic fun, but Pilot Downtown North AmeriCare Dunn Tire Coca-Cola Sahlen Field is a true gem for sports spectatorship.  Its architecture started the now continent-wide trend of modern retro-classic stadiums.

 

*Story time: I will never, ever forget seeing a walk-off grand slam whose celebration went straight to fireworks (because Friday Night Bash).  Simply awesome.

Not to mention that it was big enough to hold a Billy Graham crusade back in the day.

Just sayin’.

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10 hours ago, Crosschecking said:

Just like Three Rivers Stadium in PGH, right?

I don’t know if you’ve been through that town lately, but the location of the two replacements for TRS looks like an absolute Charlie Foxtrot.

In what way?

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1 hour ago, Let's Go B-Lo said:

In what way?

Just my impression. I’ve driven by that area a few times and noticed how close together they are. It’s almost like claustrophobic.

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