dudacek Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, MODO Hockey said: As long as you dont find a coach that is good enough for this team it doesnt matter what players u trade for does it. That is my point. I would not trade key players to this team. I don't know about Victor fitting here, but I think you have to be seriously looking at trading some of our key players who have experienced too much losing. Give your new coach a canvas with a little less baggage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODO Hockey Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 Just now, dudacek said: I don't know about Victor fitting here, but I think you have to be seriously looking at trading some of our key players who have experienced too much losing. Give your new coach a canvas with a little less baggage. Like we have last 10 seasons, and how did that work out, not so good yea? I do not agree with you at all. We just see this completly different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, MODO Hockey said: As long as you dont find a coach that is good enough for this team it doesnt matter what players u trade for does it. That is my point. I would not trade key players to this team. I'm in between on coaching or player chemistry as the problem. We have talent that don't seem to mesh as a team. Question is is it only a matter of coaching? Combination? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, MODO Hockey said: Like we have last 10 seasons, and how did that work out, not so good yea? I do not agree with you at all. We just see this completly different. Not sure what you are referring to here? Other than O'Reilly, what core players have we traded since the tank? Myers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODO Hockey Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Radar said: I'm in between on coaching or player chemistry as the problem. We have talent that don't seem to mesh as a team. Question is is it only a matter of coaching? Combination? If your trying to sell a product and your missing key ingrediants its still gonna sell, just not as good as a good product would, eventually. My point is, i strongly believe that a 'perfect fit' as a coach is the only thing that can turn this team around, it's been a decade now without playoffs. Trading players back and forth for this team does not make the trick as for other teams, aslong as we dont find the once again 'perfect fit', that will stay here for more than 2 seasons and progress to be so successful that it eventually mindfu-ck the illusion of that "this team never will win anything" to the degree that people start to believe again. We still gonna keep trading key assets to this team, i'm sure. I just dont think its the way to approach this situation right now. Edited March 27, 2021 by MODO Hockey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODO Hockey Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 Just now, dudacek said: Not sure what you are referring to here? Other than O'Reilly, what core players have we traded since the tank? Myers? I'm not specifically talking about core players. Key players, it doesnt have to be core players. A core player is Jack Eichle, a key player is Victor Olofsson. That is how i see it anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 26 minutes ago, MODO Hockey said: I'm not specifically talking about core players. Key players, it doesnt have to be core players. A core player is Jack Eichle, a key player is Victor Olofsson. That is how i see it anyways. So, besides Victor, which other Sabres should not be traded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODO Hockey Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, dudacek said: So, besides Victor, which other Sabres should not be traded? Linus Jack Jeff Taylor Rasmus x 3 Tobias Dylan Henri Jake Colin Edit: And you? Edited March 27, 2021 by MODO Hockey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, MODO Hockey said: Linus Jack Jeff Taylor Rasmus x 3 Tobias Dylan Henri Jake Colin Edit: And you? Jeff is probably not tradeable with his contract. Linus,Jack, Dylan, Risto,Dalin, and Rhino.Everyone else I would consider in trades. Edited March 27, 2021 by Radar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 (edited) 51 minutes ago, MODO Hockey said: Linus Jack Jeff Taylor Rasmus x 3 Tobias Dylan Henri Jake Colin Edit: And you? If they called for Jack, Dahlin, and Dylan, I'd say "be prepared to pay more than you want to, or there's no point in talking." I'd add Sam, Linus and Jake to that list if I knew they were going to re-sign. There are others I'm fine with keeping, but I would trade any player on this team for the right return. Edited March 27, 2021 by dudacek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 If you aren’t the Oilers you don’t actually have an untouchable player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODO Hockey Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 20 minutes ago, dudacek said: If they called for Jack, Dahlin, and Dylan, I'd say "be prepared to pay more than you want to, or there's no point in talking." I'd add Sam, Linus and Jake to that list if I knew they were going to re-sign. There are others I'm fine with keeping, but I would trade any player on this team for the right return. You do that, maybe you would trade for Ralph Kreuger aswell? you sure was on fire when he was hired. Now look at you. No offense, but we just dont agree at any certain point when it comes to trading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 I would feel better if Karmanos was here to assist with TDL moves. What the heck are they doing. Hire him or hire someone else before Adams pulls the trigger on a deal that will set the franchise back even more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 15 minutes ago, MODO Hockey said: You do that, maybe you would trade for Ralph Kreuger aswell? you sure was on fire when he was hired. Now look at you. No offense, but we just dont agree at any certain point when it comes to trading. What do you mean, I'm as handsome as ever, no matter how Ralph treated me. 😜 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODO Hockey Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 1 minute ago, dudacek said: What do you mean, I'm as handsome as ever, no matter how Ralph treated me. 😜 I've met you, you know. I KNOW you are handsome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 1 hour ago, LabattBlue said: I would feel better if Karmanos was here to assist with TDL moves. What the heck are they doing. Hire him or hire someone else before Adams pulls the trigger on a deal that will set the franchise back even more. To be honest, I don’t feel this way. Adams has not made any stupid trades yet, I feel like he has a decent grasp on who he wants to trade before the deadline, and what their value is. I feel unreasonably confident that he can handle this TDL business just fine. You think he is going to make huge moves before the offseason? I think it just be UFAs moving out. With all this said, I still want Karmanos and more added to the FO staff. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 2 hours ago, LabattBlue said: I would feel better if Karmanos was here to assist with TDL moves. What the heck are they doing. Hire him or hire someone else before Adams pulls the trigger on a deal that will set the franchise back even more. Word on the street is he's had a second interview and it could be soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 10 hours ago, sweetlou said: Would you trade Olofsson and Montour for Konecny and Ghostisbehere? Philadelphia wouldn’t even counter this after they’d just hangout and text Terry to hire a real GM. Again, for clarity: Konecy was a healthy scratch in January. The problem has gone away and he remains a very good young forward on a very good contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 4 hours ago, MODO Hockey said: Linus Jack Jeff Taylor Rasmus x 3 Tobias Dylan Henri Jake Colin Edit: And you? I can’t fathom looking at this team and viewing more than one or two guys as guys you won’t trade. There isn’t a player on this roster or in this system that I’m a 100% no on. The player I’d be least likely to trade is Cozens, though. I’m obviously not on board with trading Eichel yet but if you can get four/five building pieces for him (including multiple NOW impact pieces and something good for the future) then you have to consider it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Hoss said: I can’t fathom looking at this team and viewing more than one or two guys as guys you won’t trade. There isn’t a player on this roster or in this system that I’m a 100% no on. The player I’d be least likely to trade is Cozens, though. I’m obviously not on board with trading Eichel yet but if you can get four/five building pieces for him (including multiple NOW impact pieces and something good for the future) then you have to consider it. More or less, agreed. Im fairly bullish on Cozens. Gimme a blockbuster and Im moving any or all of Jack, Sam, and Rasmus the Younger. A middle of the road veteran 1C with playoff chops, a teams #1 prospect (preferably also a C), a #2 RW with playoff chops, and the rest are minor details in a Jack trade I’m not turning down without serious thought. ETA - you aren’t winning a trade where you are trading Jack. But the goal isn’t to win the trade, it is to bring in the kind of competitive support that we should have brought in 6 years ago. The kind of players that will ensure our kids don’t play until they are ready, yet still win an acceptable number of games and compete for a playoff spot. Edited March 27, 2021 by Weave 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berg Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 5 hours ago, MODO Hockey said: Linus Jack Jeff Taylor Rasmus x 3 Tobias Dylan Henri Jake Colin Edit: And you? Biggest problem of this team not even players, but coaches and organization system. We need to hire best coach and let him to do all what he want with players and this failed system.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 And as it comes to 7pm, the moon is out on the blue skies of Alleghany County, NY. Come hell or high water, No matter what the Sabres do, they will always be MY TEAM! Enjoy the moment y,all. Life is precious, and but a fleeting moment in time. Go Sabres! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LGR4GM Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 St Louis can go to hell. 4 firsts and we retain 0 salary for Hall. Oh and Jake Neighbours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 5 hours ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said: Word on the street is he's had a second interview and it could be soon. Karamanos was hired after the first interview. The second interview was him asking if he could leave.😜 25 minutes ago, Brawndo said: 1st and Klim Kostin from the Blues. Make it hurt a little😀 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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