Sabres Fan in NS Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, steveoath said: So are we in Lose For Lafreniere or Bad of Byfield mode? Never again ... Edited November 28, 2019 by New Scotland (NS) forgot to say (insert that winkie thingie here) ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, steveoath said: So are we in Lose For Lafreniere or Bad of Byfield mode? I don’t think tanking is on their radar. A high pick is probably viewed as an added benefit but not the goal. I think they went into this season viewing it as some sort of “Culture Year™️“. As if that could be instilled by reinforcing positive messaging rather than by achieving a winning formula. Edited November 28, 2019 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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triumph_communes Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Brawndo said: Lol I don’t blame Botterill for not being able to get rid of him 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ross Rhea Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Damn, get it done JBots. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ross Rhea said: Damn, get it done JBots. Cost would hurt. Cozens, Borgen and a 1st? (Just spit balling a package that every fan would cringe at) Maybe have to add pieces (BOGO or something like that for $$$ purposes) Edited November 30, 2019 by inkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 Certainly there is no way the Sabres should do this unless an extension is part of the deal. But IF Hall would sign an extension, would NJ take Risto, Mitts and an unprotected 2020 #1? And would JB offer it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#freejame Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 16 minutes ago, nfreeman said: Certainly there is no way the Sabres should do this unless an extension is part of the deal. But IF Hall would sign an extension, would NJ take Risto, Mitts and an unprotected 2020 #1? And would JB offer it? I would be fine with that assuming there’s an extension Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted November 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 I wouldn’t offer the unprotected first, because if the Sabres still miss the playoffs that’s the 1st Overall Pick In 2020 based on Taylor Hall’s Track Record 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 44 minutes ago, nfreeman said: Certainly there is no way the Sabres should do this unless an extension is part of the deal. But IF Hall would sign an extension, would NJ take Risto, Mitts and an unprotected 2020 #1? And would JB offer it? 27 minutes ago, #freejame said: I would be fine with that assuming there’s an extension If I'm NJ, I laugh and hang up. Garbage, possible garbage, and a complete unknown. See my offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted November 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 The big concern is the Sabres already have Skinner locked up on a long term deal at LW. Locking up two LWs at their ages to long term expensive deals, doesn’t seem wise at this point. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 2 hours ago, inkman said: Cost would hurt. Cozens, Borgen and a 1st? (Just spit balling a package that every fan would cringe at) Maybe have to add pieces (BOGO or something like that for $$$ purposes) I think that the only way that they get a package like that is if there is an extension already agreed upon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Brawndo said: The big concern is the Sabres already have Skinner locked up on a long term deal at LW. Locking up two LWs at their ages to long term expensive deals, doesn’t seem wise at this point. I think Taylor Hall would be an excellent on-ice addition. Dont want to give up good assets and a Skinner-sized contract. One or the other maybe, but not both. Edited November 30, 2019 by dudacek 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 2 hours ago, inkman said: Cost would hurt. Cozens, Borgen and a 1st? (Just spit balling a package that every fan would cringe at) Maybe have to add pieces (BOGO or something like that for $$$ purposes) I disagree in that cost primarily due to the contract situation. They aren’t getting 2 1sts and a D prospect for approximately 20 games of Taylor Hall. If he had an extension however that would make sense. I would guess if Hall has made it clear he wants to be a UFA he’ll be worth a protected 1st or a 2nd and a middish prospect. Cap stuff not withstanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Curt said: I think that the only way that they get a package like that is if there is an extension already agreed upon. Um...duh? 58 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: I disagree in that cost primarily due to the contract situation. They aren’t getting 2 1sts and a D prospect for approximately 20 games of Taylor Hall. If he had an extension however that would make sense. I would guess if Hall has made it clear he wants to be a UFA he’ll be worth a protected 1st or a 2nd and a middish prospect. Cap stuff not withstanding. You don't trade for him unless it's with an extension. As a rental, his price would be negligible. Edited November 30, 2019 by inkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freester Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 There is no way Hall is signing an extension with us before he has a chance to see what’s out there as a UFA. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, inkman said: Um...duh? You don't trade for him unless it's with an extension. As a rental, his price would be negligible. I think as a rental he could still get a 1st (probably lottery protected at least) + a B prospect (Borgen, Pekar) Something like that. That’s a pretty good return. Just as a comparison, I would think he would get a little better return that what Kane got. Edited November 30, 2019 by Curt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted November 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 Colorado is the most logical trading partner. Per Puck Daddy, the Devils have been heavily scouting all levels of the Avs Organization and Colorado has the cap space and prospects to make it happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 Would JB do Skinner and Asplund for Hall straight up. Assuming an extension was in place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Taro T Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Zamboni said: Would JB do Skinner and Asplund for Hall straight up. Assuming an extension was in place. Doesn't matter unless Skinner wants to play in Joisey. He has a full NMC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Brawndo said: Scouts....SCOUTS!!! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LGR4GM Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 If Botterill trades our 2020 first for anything short of a #1 center under the age of 25 he should be fired before the fax goes through. Trade our 2020 first for a 28yr old lw, are we even trying to build a team here? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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