TrueBlueGED Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: Okay, Dahlin and Risto actually played more together than I thought, and the results weren't as bad as I thought. 220 minutes, 9 goals for, 10 against, positive expected goal share, negative shot share by a couple percentage points. I must just be remembering one particularly ugly game or something. Human memory is terrible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: He allowed Pilut to do that which is why they worked well together. Did he allow it or did Pilut just support Risto and that allowed Risto to exit better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: Human memory is terrible. Pretty relative. It's easily manipulated though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 Just now, WildCard said: Pretty relative. It's easily manipulated though No, not really. Humans are really bad at remembering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 Just now, TrueBlueGED said: No, not really. Humans are really bad at remembering. We've had this debate before IIRC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, WildCard said: We've had this debate before IIRC What debate? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 Well, I still want Skinner with Eichel and Reino on his own line. But I love the kronor line. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Did he allow it or did Pilut just support Risto and that allowed Risto to exit better? How would that happen? How would his presence on the ice make Risto's passes more accurate, or make better decisions when getting pucks to forwards? I just can't really picture that being a thing is all Pilut's main NHL skill is puck distribution and his main flaw is being physically overwhelmed, so when he was with a guy who does not get physically overwhelmed but who struggles with puck movement they stuck to their strengths and balanced each other's weaknesses and it led to good things happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: How would that happen? How would his presence on the ice make Risto's passes more accurate, or make better decisions when getting pucks to forwards? I just can't really picture that being a thing is all Pheromones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 That second group looks like the island of misfit toys. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: That second group looks like the island of misfit toys. McCabe is the one that sticks out to me. I'm a bit surprised they didn't mix up the D a bit more. Short of trades/injuries, he's the only one in the second group who will be in the opening night roster. Edited September 19, 2019 by shrader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: That second group looks like the island of misfit toys. A few players have to be going WTF? And if that’s the intent, good on Ralph. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triumph_communes Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 I hope Reinhart doesn't get stapled to Eichel. Reinhart takes too much of a backseat to the play when they're together. All the lines are complete chaos though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 18 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: That second group looks like the island of misfit toys. Interesting that Mittelstadt, Sheary, Okposo, & McCabe are skating with the AHLers while Cozens, Ruotsalainen, Asplund, and Jokiharju are given a chance to show what they can do with NHLers. Fine with looking to see what a baseline for Cozens is. But if the answer at 2C is an 18 yo, expecting they've asked the wrong question or should it somehow work, Botterill needs to buy a truckload of lottery tickets before his luck runs out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 I just like that those lines don't make me say "why on earth would he think that's a good idea." Who knows how it plays out in the regular season, but we don't see any signs that Krueger things Sobotka is a top six player, or equivalently troubling things that other coaches have shown too much in the past. Like, those lines look like he understands what his players are 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 If Vesey ends up on Eichel's wing to start the season.... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) As for the second group: I put everyone I don't expect to make the team in bold. These are players I would be shocked or annoyed if they made the team. I put players I could see missing out in italics. Really in this list only Mitts, Okposo and McCabe are locks. Honestly I wish Okposo the best but unless he has a magical renaissance he's probably just taking up space. Elie - Sobotka - ThompsonSmith - Mittelstadt - OkposoLazar - Porter - DeaOglevie - Malone - ShearyGilmour - Borgen McCabe - HickeyBryson - Redmond Edited September 19, 2019 by LGR4GM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 12 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: As for the second group: I put everyone I don't expect to make the team in bold. These are players I would be shocked or annoyed if they made the team. I put players I could see missing out in italics. Really in this list only Mitts, Okposo and McCabe are locks. Honestly I wish Okposo the best but unless he has a magical renaissance he's probably just taking up space. Me too. I like Okposo. I get scared for him when he stands up for his teammates and gets clocked in the head. But darn if he isn't a passionate hockey player. Okposo had 14G last year, 7 PPG. One further year from his prime, but also one further year from his ICU medical scare. Maybe he's closer to 20 if he's not stapled to the 4th line with Girgs/Larry. Maybe a Smith/Mitts/Okposo protected-minutes 3rd line, plus 2nd PP unit gets Okposo back closer to 20? Like an 18-18-36 on the season? The major upgrades we need this year are for our middle six to each pick up 3-4 more goals on the season. In the case of Sobotka --> ???, it should be from 5G to 15G, which would be immensely important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 23 minutes ago, pi2000 said: If Vesey ends up on Eichel's wing to start the season.... gif... But, they have off-season chemistry! I still think we get to a 1-2 combo of: Skinner-Eichel-Olofsson; Johansson-Mittelstadt-Reinhart or Olofsson-Eichel-Reinhart; Skinner-Mittelstadt-Johansson. Depending on how well Reino can manage a line. Then Vesey-Asplund-Rodrigues and Girgs-Larry-Okposo (so we have PKers) on the big roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsb Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 2 hours ago, dudacek said: A few players have to be going WTF? And if that’s the intent, good on Ralph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 The latest from the coach: https://www.nhl.com/sabres/video/ralph-krueger-91919/t-277437090/c-68984903 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 So, if we were to tweak today's lines to my liking, we'd have: Skinner - Eichel - ERod Vesey - Cozens - Reino Johansson - Asplund - Olofsson Girgensons - Larsson - Ruotsalainen ...putting KO and Sheary in the press box as extras and Mittsie and TT in Rochester for further seasoning. I could talk myself into liking that setup pretty easily. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, nfreeman said: So, if we were to tweak today's lines to my liking, we'd have: Skinner - Eichel - ERod Vesey - Cozens - Reino Johansson - Asplund - Olofsson Girgensons - Larsson - Ruotsalainen ...putting KO and Sheary in the press box as extras and Mittsie and TT in Rochester for further seasoning. I could talk myself into liking that setup pretty easily. I hate the idea of sending Mitts to Rochester after he battled his way through a whole NHL season. But a new coach = a clean slate and if he's not up to Ralph's liking then I don't see another option. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 14 minutes ago, darksabre said: I hate the idea of sending Mitts to Rochester after he battled his way through a whole NHL season. But a new coach = a clean slate and if he's not up to Ralph's liking then I don't see another option. I agree that it would be a major slap in the face for Mitts. But when I watch him, I just don't see a guy who's ready to be an effective NHL player. I kinda like the idea of him battling against a lower level of pro hockey for half a season (or more) before throwing him in over his head again. Also, I freaking love the idea of Cozens blowing in like Tormund Giantsbane and seizing the 2C spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erickompositör72 Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 minute ago, nfreeman said: I agree that it would be a major slap in the face for Mitts. But when I watch him, I just don't see a guy who's ready to be an effective NHL player. I kinda like the idea of him battling against a lower level of pro hockey for half a season (or more) before throwing him in over his head again. Also, I freaking love the idea of Cozens blowing in like Tormund Giantsbane and seizing the 2C spot. I've been saying (or thinking?) this for a while, but... We're due for an unexpected hit like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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