bob_sauve28 Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 18 hours ago, Randall Flagg said: Apparently in some sort of weird facebook Q&A with Duff somebody asked Jeff if he is going to stay and he said he really likes it here and he would like to. Of course, I wouldn't expect him to say anything else in that situation Drury said the same thing, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) It was known Drury wanted go play close to home and yeh the Rangers interfered... whatever that term is for colluding... long nite... If Toronto cant afford Nylander they cant afford Skinner... Edited October 24, 2018 by North Buffalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 On 10/22/2018 at 2:02 PM, LGR4GM said: So since 2015 Skinner is 3rd in EV Goals when adjusted for TOI. Holy poop. He knows this, and will surely feel he can get a great contract on open market. I can see us offering him a lot. He is a superstar, according to that stat. Yet, look at the Canes this year. They lose Skinner and score more goals than us, are slightly better than us and have not died when he left. I just hate losing an asset and not getting anything in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 38 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said: He knows this, and will surely feel he can get a great contract on open market. I can see us offering him a lot. He is a superstar, according to that stat. Yet, look at the Canes this year. They lose Skinner and score more goals than us, are slightly better than us and have not died when he left. I just hate losing an asset and not getting anything in return. I'd argue a couple of playoff goals is something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 12 minutes ago, sabills said: I'd argue a couple of playoff goals is something. Yes, winning does breed more winning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 I would propose the next poll ask the question differently.. (when it's time to ask again). "Assuming Jeff Skinner will get a 7 year contract, what is the AAV you would accept for the Sabres to keep him?" $6M- $7M $8M $9M $10M+ Trade him regardless Keep Him for playoffs if it happens Everyone will have a different spot at which they want him, except @TrueBlueGED. We know his choice. ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calti Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/22/2018 at 5:10 AM, bob_sauve28 said: I think he is great. Would love to sign him, but you know the Rangers are having back channel conversations offering him heaven and earth. This kind of sucks. If he won't sign, you have to take what you can get from a contender and move on. Pegula has billions.Time to start spending smartly 11 hours ago, bob_sauve28 said: He knows this, and will surely feel he can get a great contract on open market. I can see us offering him a lot. He is a superstar, according to that stat. Yet, look at the Canes this year. They lose Skinner and score more goals than us, are slightly better than us and have not died when he left. I just hate losing an asset and not getting anything in return. good point. prime example your buffalo bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 I’m in the keep him category. However if he is traded, the Stastny and Nash Returns are a better template. Still the players the Sabres will get back in terms of prospects and draft choices will not be as good as Skinner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 7 hours ago, Brawndo said: I’m in the keep him category. However if he is traded, the Stastny and Nash Returns are a better template. Still the players the Sabres will get back in terms of prospects and draft choices will not be as good as Skinner. Yup. Guaranteed downgrade in talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 (edited) That’s what TM thought when he acquired ROR, Kane, Lehner and Bogo. All talented, all overpaid and all but Bogo gone. The team is obviously better without then. Re-signing Skinner is at best premature. Cap space management is key now to building a winner. For example: Jbot may decide that spending 7 mill on Skinner isn’t as smart as spending 5 on a D and giving that slot to Nylander. Therefore trading Skinner might be the best course of action even if we just get back what we paid for him. So why is this discussion way premature? We have no idea on what the cap is going to be. We have no idea if Skinner will actually earn a new deal or even want to stay. We have no idea how possible internal replacements such as Nylander or even Sheary will do. We have no idea if cheaper, younger or better replacements will be FA or available in trade. We have no idea what Jbot’s cap strategy is or how he plans to further upgrade the defense. Just to many unknowns at this point. Right now we don’t even know for sure the future of Pommers with the Sabres. He seems to fit with Jack as well. What happens if he has a good season, shows leadership in the clubhouse and is willing to return for $3 mill per year for 2 more years? Edited October 25, 2018 by GASabresIUFAN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 I really need to see his waterbug act in the playoffs to make a decision on a long term deal tying up that much moolah. Does he get tossed around and essentially mugged beyond recognition with the elevated physical play and substandard playoff officiating where they let everything go ? Actually I really need to see how this entire team holds up under those conditions. Some nights I worry. Just get in boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 7 hours ago, Weave said: Yup. Guaranteed downgrade in talent. Not guaranteed, Pasternac and Guensel (Yes, spelling of names is way off) were late first round picks. Getting more picks increases our chances of hitting on a pick that is really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 (edited) Per Botterill on WGR No contract negotiations have begun with Jeff Skinner That can wait until later in the year Edited October 25, 2018 by Brawndo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted October 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 37 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Per Botterill on WGR No contract negotiations have begun with Jeff Skinner That can wait until later in the year Not surprising. In Botterill I trust...……………………………………………………………...for now...……………………... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 (edited) Mentioned he wants Pilut to get better at defensive zone coverage Edited October 25, 2018 by Brawndo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted October 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 Just now, Brawndo said: We need an MSG package, I can't make the games in Rochester with my work hours...…….I'd pay...…..anyone have info on possible televised packages? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, bob_sauve28 said: Not guaranteed, Pasternac and Guensel (Yes, spelling of names is way off) were late first round picks. Getting more picks increases our chances of hitting on a pick that is really good. Meh. Lottery tickets. You listed outliers. And outliers that a team waits 3+ years to have on the NHL ice (unless you want to drum up outliers among outliers). So, long term you *MIGHT* equal what you've lost and short term is a definite, predictable, measurable loss. Let's work towards an expectation of winning games all season. Edited October 25, 2018 by Weave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 57 minutes ago, Scottysabres said: We need an MSG package, I can't make the games in Rochester with my work hours...…….I'd pay...…..anyone have info on possible televised packages? Thanks https://www.watchtheahl.com/#/ If you want to Stream MSG try FUBO TV, try it for free for a week to make sure you get MSG WNY. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 Another difference between Kane and Skinner. Skinner knows how to pass and give his teammates an opportunity or two. 3 assists tonight fo the Sabres little birdie. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted October 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 3 APPLES in an early season statement game..... "And the LEGEND of SKINNER grows"..... 11 hours ago, Brawndo said: https://www.watchtheahl.com/#/ If you want to Stream MSG try FUBO TV, try it for free for a week to make sure you get MSG WNY. Thank you...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatorman0519 Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 JBots strength is cap management. Don’t forget in 3 Years Dahlin, if he pans out as a 1 D man will command easily 8-10 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 13 hours ago, Brawndo said: https://www.watchtheahl.com/#/ If you want to Stream MSG try FUBO TV, try it for free for a week to make sure you get MSG WNY. I've used fubo for all Sabres games this season. It's a great service. You can record the games and watch whenever you'd like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 14 hours ago, Scottysabres said: We need an MSG package, I can't make the games in Rochester with my work hours...…….I'd pay...…..anyone have info on possible televised packages? Thanks http://www.amerks.com/article/AMERKS ANNOUNCE 2018-19 TELEVISION SCHEDULE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 9:21 AM, bob_sauve28 said: He knows this, and will surely feel he can get a great contract on open market. I can see us offering him a lot. He is a superstar, according to that stat. Yet, look at the Canes this year. They lose Skinner and score more goals than us, are slightly better than us and have not died when he left. I just hate losing an asset and not getting anything in return. Who's their gt though? Ward was a major problem there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 19 hours ago, bob_sauve28 said: Not guaranteed, Pasternac and Guensel (Yes, spelling of names is way off) were late first round picks. Getting more picks increases our chances of hitting on a pick that is really good. Jake Guentzel was drafted 77th overall or in the 3rd round. We already have 3 firsts in a deep draft. I'd rather keep the known item that is Skinner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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