inkman Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 I’m not sure why - but I am aggressively fed up with the NFL draft talk this year. Which is a little weird because you’d think I’d be super into it with the Bills such a big player. That’s no slag on the good talk here, btw. But it hit me yesterday: I’ve had enough. “Uncle.” It's reached nauseating levels. I'm ready for it to be over with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 I concur, I've been reading it all here so I have to imagine outside of SS it's even worse. I mean the browns are taking darnold, Allen, and Mayfield all in the last 2 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Every "latest rumor" has cycled through every single possible quarterback going to every single possible team at this point.. This is true, but Dustin Fox has connections in the Browns FO and has had accurate information about them before. Either way we will know in five days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 This is true, but Dustin Fox has connections in the Browns FO and has had accurate information about them before. Either way we will know in five days. Can't wait!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Dragging this out is great for the NFL. More hits on nfl.com, and more viewers = more revenue. I remember when the draft was only on the radio, and nobody knew these prospects except for the scouts. The internet has changed the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted April 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Kind of excited to see how it goes with the NFL refusing any leaks of the pick prior to Goodell announcing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Can't wait!! Until we trade all of our picks for Josh Allen, and you proceed to want to off yourself :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted April 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Until we trade all of our picks for Josh Allen, and you proceed to want to off yourself :P You're assuming we're not all already there after watching the 2017-2018 Sabres :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 You're assuming we're not all already there after watching the 2017-2018 Sabres :lol: Anyone who decided to watch all of those games deserves what they got :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Until we trade all of our picks for Josh Allen, and you proceed to want to off yourself :p This or drafting Mason Rudolph at 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 (edited) This or drafting Mason Rudolph at 12. I'll take Rudolph at 12 no problem. I think a lot of people are of the opinion that there are 4 or 5 Hall of Fame QBs in this draft class. There aren't. These guys all are a little better than ok (except Allen, who is less than ok). It just happens to be that there are a lot of them. But none of them are Peyton Manning. Edited April 21, 2018 by Eleven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 I'll take Rudolph at 12 no problem. I think a lot of people are of the opinion that there are 4 or 5 Hall of Fame QBs in this draft class. There aren't. These guys all are a little better than ok (except Allen, who is less than ok). It just happens to be that there are a lot of them. But none of them are Peyton Manning. Taking Rudolph at 12 means you are passing on a quality player though. If you believe Chris Ballard the Colts GM there are 8 Elite Non QB Prospects in the draft. If the Bills are looking at taking Rudolph this probably means that Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield and Allen are off the board. Meaning one of those eight should be available. They would be better off grabbing him and taking a QB at 22( Lamar Jackson Please) or on Day 2. The question is how much of a difference is there between Rudolph and Mike White or Kyle Lauletta. I have seen Rudolph mentioned as the best QB in the Draft by Chris Trappasso and Joe Marino has mocked him to the Bills at 12. On the other hand Walter Football said he has been in same spread offense since high school, he cannot go through the progressions and only succeeds when his receivers are wide open. Joe Ledyard from NDT Scouting says he will have trouble adapting to the Erhardt-Perkins System that Daboll uses. To be honest the only three QBs I would move up for or take at 12 are Darnold, Rosen or Mayfield they seem to have the best chance to succeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 Taking Rudolph at 12 means you are passing on a quality player though. If you believe Chris Ballard the Colts GM there are 8 Elite Non QB Prospects in the draft. If the Bills are looking at taking Rudolph this probably means that Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield and Allen are off the board. Meaning one of those eight should be available. They would be better off grabbing him and taking a QB at 22( Lamar Jackson Please) or on Day 2. The question is how much of a difference is there between Rudolph and Mike White or Kyle Lauletta. I have seen Rudolph mentioned as the best QB in the Draft by Chris Trappasso and Joe Marino has mocked him to the Bills at 12. On the other hand Walter Football said he has been in same spread offense since high school, he cannot go through the progressions and only succeeds when his receivers are wide open. Joe Ledyard from NDT Scouting says he will have trouble adapting to the Erhardt-Perkins System that Daboll uses. To be honest the only three QBs I would move up for or take at 12 are Darnold, Rosen or Mayfield they seem to have the best chance to succeed. Like i said, I don't think there are a bunch of Hall of Famers in this draft. I just don't. But I do think the Bills have to take a QB with their first pick, whatever pick that may be, because torches and pitchforks if they don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 But I do think the Bills have to take a QB with their first pick, whatever pick that may be, because torches and pitchforks if they don't. Possibly, I think there would be more anger if they did not select one on Thursday Night, if they take a positional player with 12 and a QB 22nd the barbarian hordes maybe placated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 Unless Rosen slides and we can snag him at 8 or something, I'm increasingly of the mind that our best option is to stand pat and take Jackson at 12. This, of course, is entirely dependent upon how you feel about Jackson. I love him, and I'd much rather have him than Darnold, Allen, or Rudolph. YMMV. Best case scenario: Rosen slides towards the back of the top-10 and we can move up for him while keeping most of our picks Best "realistic" scenario: Jackson at 12. Things I wouldn't personally do, but would be okay with: trading a lot for Rosen or Mayfield. Things that would make me kick a puppy: trading a lot for Allen or Darnold, taking Rudolph at 12 over Jackson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 Unless Rosen slides and we can snag him at 8 or something, I'm increasingly of the mind that our best option is to stand pat and take Jackson at 12. This, of course, is entirely dependent upon how you feel about Jackson. I love him, and I'd much rather have him than Darnold, Allen, or Rudolph. YMMV. Best case scenario: Rosen slides towards the back of the top-10 and we can move up for him while keeping most of our picks Best "realistic" scenario: Jackson at 12. Things I wouldn't personally do, but would be okay with: trading a lot for Rosen or Mayfield. Things that would make me kick a puppy: trading a lot for Allen or Darnold, taking Rudolph at 12 over Jackson. Giving up assets to move up and take Jackson would make me blow a gasket :lol: I'm completely unconvinced that he wouldn't have made it to 21. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 Giving up assets to move up and take Jackson would make me blow a gasket :lol: I'm completely unconvinced that he wouldn't have made it to 21. That's because you hate him! :lol: I don't think he gets past Arizona or Baltimore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 That's because you hate him! :lol: I don't think he gets past Arizona or Baltimore. I don't haaaaaaaate him, I just don't waaaaaant him. The word "hate" is reserved for Josh Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 I don't haaaaaaaate him, I just don't waaaaaant him. The word "hate" is reserved for Josh Allen. Didn't you at some point say Jackson wouldn't even be on your draft board? If that's not hate, I don't know what is! :p At least we're on the same page with Allen. It's nauseating just to think about possibly drafting him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JujuFish Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 I'm going to have to eat so much crow if Allen becomes a star in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 I'm going to have to eat so much crow if Allen becomes a star in the NFL.He won't. Watch his pocket presence and pre snap reads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 Didn't you at some point say Jackson wouldn't even be on your draft board? If that's not hate, I don't know what is! :P At least we're on the same page with Allen. It's nauseating just to think about possibly drafting him. I have a tendency to completely overstate my point often, so yeah I probably said that. If I sit and really think about it, I definitely would take Jackson past the first round, but I probably wouldn't take him with any pick we have or could possibly get in round 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 I would just not take a QB this year, but that is just me. :P Or grab one in the 2nd round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 I would just not take a QB this year, but that is just me. :P Or grab one in the 2nd round. Mike white or Kyle Lauletta are intriguing. If they could come away from this draft with 2 starting OL, 2 starting LB and the QB of the future I'll need to change my pants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 The guy who Tweets as Yards Per Pass (re the Bills) is pretty good. He Tweeted over the weekend that the reason he likes Allen over Mayfield (but *not* more than Darnold or Rosen) is that Allen's "best" is better than any other QB prospect's best. Which just seems like a perspective and take tailor-made for teeing up a bust. I am sure it's analytically flawed, or worse, but I can't shake this video of Allen at the Senior Bowl practices. https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala/status/956228021945618437 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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