PASabreFan Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 Geographically, you're right. Culturally, however, "the Island" doesn't include Queens and Brooklyn. We've had this discussion many times. It is perplexing, but you nailed it. You might compare it to how Buffalo feels closer to being a part of Canada than the same state Manhattan is in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 So, Seattle wants an expansion team, eh. What about Quebec, Kansas City, Houston and Oklahoma City? Surely Toronto's southern side (Hamilton) could easily absorb a 2nd team. And what of Salt Lake City? You just know the Mormons are closet Hockey fanatics. I think the league Could expand to 40 teams comfortably. Why Seattle though when Quebec is itching to get back in to the fight, so to speak. I miss the Nordiques. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawerchuk Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 I'm all for the expansion to Seattle. Would be perfect to rival the 'Nucks next door. 32 total teams should probably be the end of it. Sorry KC/Houston/OKCity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 So, Seattle wants an expansion team, eh. What about Quebec, Kansas City, Houston and Oklahoma City? Surely Toronto's southern side (Hamilton) could easily absorb a 2nd team. And what of Salt Lake City? You just know the Mormons are closet Hockey fanatics. I think the league Could expand to 40 teams comfortably. Why Seattle though when Quebec is itching to get back in to the fight, so to speak. I miss the Nordiques. Seattle has the cash. TL;DR It's one of the fastest-growing cities in the country (and already a large market - much larger than Quebec, KC, and OKC). Across the lake, Bellevue is one of the fastest-growing cities in the country. Mircosoft, Amazon. Boeing is still big for the time-being. And many of us transplants (although I've been here 20 years, I'm not entirely grouping myself with us) are from hockey areas. Plus Vancouver is close. The NHL wants us for our money. The Seattle sports scene in general (not me, I'm indifferent) wants the NHL for the availability to get back into the NBA. Seattle proper wants to revitalize the Seattle Center (Space Needle) area. Key Arena is currently hosting the WNBA and until a couple years ago one of the main tenants was the local roller derby league (which I think is great -- hey, they were using the venue -- but the city wanted something with more economic pull). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 Seattle would be my first choice for an expansion team. Probably make the trip to see the Sabres if and when it’s practical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 They could put a team in Houston, but it wouldn't last a decade & would not be surprised if it only made it 5 years. They'd be better off giving Atlanta a 3rd kick at the can or KC a shot w/ a non-70's quality expansion team. Yes, Dallas has a team. Houston & Dallas are very different cities. Yes, somebody here has an analysis showing it would work, but it won't. I had always heard the old Houston Aeros did reasonably well. Is that true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 I had always heard the old Houston Aeros did reasonably well. Is that true? Until they went from cheap tix in their tiny rink downtown it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 We've had this discussion many times. It is perplexing, but you nailed it. You might compare it to how Buffalo feels closer to being a part of Canada than the same state Manhattan is in. Correct, but this is not a state secret. Just go to Brooklyn or Queens, and then go to Nassau. Not the same feeling at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 The only thing keeping carolina a live is that stadium lease that has any new owner tied down for 6 more years. Unless you are rich enough to pay the fine that is :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 We've had this discussion many times. It is perplexing, but you nailed it. You might compare it to how Buffalo feels closer to being a part of Canada than the same state Manhattan is in. I bet if you ask nfreeman he would say he is part of NYC and not the Island. Until they went from cheap tix in their tiny rink downtown it was. Did they not win the final WHA championship with Bobby Hull and all that jazz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 I bet if you ask nfreeman he would say he is part of NYC and not the Island. Did they not win the final WHA championship with Bobby Hull and all that jazz? You're thinking of the Jets. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 You're thinking of the Jets. ;) No, you're right. You have a good memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 I am highly skeptical that the Islanders will get a new arena in Belmont Park, or anywhere else in the NYC region. None of the media coverage that I’ve seen of the Belmont Park proposal has provided any details as to the financing for the arena. I continue to believe that there will be no public money for an Islanders arena, and I don’t see the Islanders’ owners ponying up $750 million or so. I think the Islanders are going to be at the Barclays Center for the foreseeable future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 No, you're right. You have a good memory. I think Gordie Howe and his son's played for the Aeros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted December 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 Seattle also has the potential for enormous Corporate sponsorship dollars and only one pro team. Uncle Gary sees the dollar signs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 Seattle also has the potential for enormous Corporate sponsorship dollars and only one pro team. Uncle Gary sees the dollar signs 'Hello' ... 'Yes, one moment, please' ... It's the Seattle Sounders on the line ... yup, for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 Seattle also has the potential for enormous Corporate sponsorship dollars and only one pro team. Uncle Gary sees the dollar signsOne pro team? Try three (NFL, MLB, MLS) plus a major college. (UofW) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 One pro team? Try three (NFL, MLB, MLS) plus a major college. (UofW) That's right. I missed a few there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted December 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 Complete and Total Brain Lapse on my part. Especially with the Sounders being in the MLS Final. Oops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 I am highly skeptical that the Islanders will get a new arena in Belmont Park, or anywhere else in the NYC region. None of the media coverage that I’ve seen of the Belmont Park proposal has provided any details as to the financing for the arena. I continue to believe that there will be no public money for an Islanders arena, and I don’t see the Islanders’ owners ponying up $750 million or so. I think the Islanders are going to be at the Barclays Center for the foreseeable future. That's not going to happen, according to Isles management, ownership, and Tavares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 Complete and Total Brain Lapse on my part. Especially with the Sounders being in the MLS Final. Oops They'll probably get an NBA team too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 That's not going to happen, according to Isles management, ownership, and Tavares. I’ve heard that too, but I haven’t heard anyone’s plan as to what happens if Belmont Park doesn’t happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 I’ve heard that too, but I haven’t heard anyone’s plan as to what happens if Belmont Park doesn’t happen. You're aware of how and by whom this franchise has been run for the past several years. It's altogether possible there is no plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 You're aware of how and by whom this franchise has been run for the past several years. It's altogether possible there is no plan. Well, the team is now owned by smart and successful people, so I’m confident they have a plan. I think they want to use the implied threat of relocation to get as much public money as possible for an arena, and if they don’t get the amount they want they will stay at Barclays unless and until they get a good enough relocation offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 Well, the team is now owned by smart and successful people, so I’m confident they have a plan. I think they want to use the implied threat of relocation to get as much public money as possible for an arena, and if they don’t get the amount they want they will stay at Barclays unless and until they get a good enough relocation offer. But Tavares said he won't stay in that event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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