North Buffalo Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Best since Vanek,but imo Chuck was better. PS Best was Peter McNabb but he got traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Jamie McGinn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Sam more like sneaky Pete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Reinhart the D-Less quietly has the best net-front presence of any Sabre since __________.  Play it as fill in the blank, or choose from the choices below:  A. Dave Andreychuck B. Chris Gratton C. JP Dumont D. Thomas Vanek  Somewhere Rick Vaive is muttering WTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted December 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Somewhere Rick Vaive is muttering WTF Vaive would have been a worthy choice. Â No snubs intended. My recall on Sabres of years past is spotty/streaky -- not encyclopedic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Titanic was tough to move. Â Too soon? Â Yeah, that Rammer did more seeding than The Midnight Plowboy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Ramsay was a thorn in everyone's side in front of the net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Just wait til he's bigger and more confident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Just wait til he's bigger and more confident.  That was my point. He's figuring it out so fast. He's only going to get better. Better, perhaps, than Andreychuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Just wait til he's bigger and more confident. And then comparisons to some of the Sabres' best net front guys will be appropriate. Right now, he's not there. (But he almost definitely will get there IF that continues to be the role they slot him in.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsb Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 And then comparisons to some of the Sabres' best net front guys will be appropriate. Right now, he's not there. (But he almost definitely will get there IF that continues to be the role they slot him in.) True in that it appears to be the only good thing he's NHL level at, at the moment. Most overrated guy on the team right now. Disappointing for a 2nd pick in the draft. Needs an all star level Center to make him look good. As of now there are no worries about him blowing up our cap space when he's a RFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted December 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Who the hell invited Eeyore to this party? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsb Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Who the hell invited Eeyore to this party? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 True in that it appears to be the only good thing he's NHL level at, at the moment. Most overrated guy on the team right now. Disappointing for a 2nd pick in the draft. Needs an all star level Center to make him look good. As of now there are no worries about him blowing up our cap space when he's a RFA. I'm pretty sure this is what Dan Bylsma thinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 I remember the broadcast crew pointing out how Reinhart was standing in front of the GT and despite looking away from the net, he was moving in perfect sync to stay directly between the GT and the puck. I have no idea how to find that video, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsb Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 dudacekI'm pretty sure this is what Dan Bylsma thinks.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 True in that it appears to be the only good thing he's NHL level at, at the moment. Most overrated guy on the team right now. Disappointing for a 2nd pick in the draft. Needs an all star level Center to make him look good. As of now there are no worries about him blowing up our cap space when he's a RFA.Ummm...Wut?  http://youtu.be/9lo94e_oN54   Notice the dozen plays or so that Jack is not spoon feeding Sam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Anyone worried or bothered by what Sam is showing should look up the paths of Galchenyuk and Scheifele, their early criticisms, what they did in their first and second years, and where they are now. Â He's ahead of both of them at his age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Anyone worried or bothered by what Sam is showing should look up the paths of Galchenyuk and Scheifele, their early criticisms, what they did in their first and second years, and where they are now. Â He's ahead of both of them at his age. I also think, that as a general rule, silky pass-first players without a standout physical skill set tend to go underappreciated. When talking about the best centers in the game, people will always gravitate towards Crosby, Stamkos, Tavares, etc. well before they get to someone like Backstrom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 I think a lot of fans are hardwired to gravitate to the flashier aspects of the game: stickhandling, hitting, speed. That said, Sam's move to create his breakaway Tuesday was sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsb Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 I also think, that as a general rule, silky pass-first players without a standout physical skill set tend to go underappreciated. When talking about the best centers in the game, people will always gravitate towards Crosby, Stamkos, Tavares, etc. well before they get to someone like Backstrom. I don't want to come off as an anti-Samsonite but Backstrom at the end of his rookie year was the center on the Caps #1 line. Samson isn't close to that level as a center on this team. Appreciate your insite but lousy example IMO. He was also touted shortly after coming into the league as the best Swede to do so in years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 I don't want to come off as an anti-Samsonite but Backstrom at the end of his rookie year was the center on the Caps #1 line. Samson isn't close to that level as a center on this team. Appreciate your insite but lousy example IMO. He was also touted shortly after coming into the league as the best Swede to do so in years.  FWIW, this is the list of centers for the Caps in 07-08: 15 – Boyd Gordon 19 – Nicklas Backstrom 21 – Brooks Laich 39 – Dave Steckel 91 – Sergei Fedorov 92 – Michael Nylander I'm pretty sure none of those guys is Eichel-level. I'm not sure any of them are ROR level, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to say that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsb Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) FWIW, this is the list of centers for the Caps in 07-08: 15 – Boyd Gordon 19 – Nicklas Backstrom 21 – Brooks Laich 39 – Dave Steckel 91 – Sergei Fedorov 92 – Michael Nylander I'm pretty sure none of those guys is Eichel-level. I'm not sure any of them are ROR level, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to say that. Well Fedorov is in the HOF and Nylander I believe was in the last big year he had for his career but having said that I don't know where they would rate at the time. The Caps did make the playoffs that year so Backstrom had that going for him.  And again, I'm not an anti-Samsonite, I just don't see superstar in him. Edited December 1, 2016 by jsb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 I don't want to come off as an anti-Samsonite but Backstrom at the end of his rookie year was the center on the Caps #1 line. Samson isn't close to that level as a center on this team. Appreciate your insite but lousy example IMO. He was also touted shortly after coming into the league as the best Swede to do so in years. My point was not to say Samson is as good as Backstrom was in year 2. My point is that when people discuss the best centers or players in the game, I almost never hear Backstrom's name come up until well into the discussion, if ever. But his body of work says he deserves to be in the first few names mentioned. I think he doesn't get in because he doesn't skate like the wind or have a laser beam shot or send guys flying with huge hits...he's a sublimely smooth player with great passing, but physically he doesn't jump off the ice at you. Reinhart's in that mold--there's even an argument he was better than Jack at even strength last year, but good luck convincing anyone of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 And then comparisons to some of the Sabres' best net front guys will be appropriate. Right now, he's not there. (But he almost definitely will get there IF that continues to be the role they slot him in.)I agree. He is good but hasn't reached that other level yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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