WildCard Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Title is self-explanatory. Who is the most overrated player in the NHL these days? Initial thought for me would be Malkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Definitely not Malkin, IMO, he's the only penguin that's still looked like his old self. Pekka Rinne? He looks awful every time I watch him. Toews, for sure ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Stamkos is right up there too, that's for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Why would you list two of the NHL's top players in this thread, or do you not mean over-rated in the correct sense of hyped up by the masses, but not really there in skill, nor stats? In the truest sense of the words, I give you, Dion Phaneuf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Crotch Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Definitely not Malkin, IMO, he's the only penguin that's still looked like his old self. Pekka Rinne? He looks awful every time I watch him. Toews, for sure ;) Pekka is having a terrible year. He's been overplaying the puck and taking himself out of position often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Pekka is having a terrible year. He's been overplaying the puck and taking himself out of position often.Yeah. He might be a bad choice for this, because when he was 'hyped' he had much better numbers and looked, I presume, much better than he does this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josie Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 (edited) Why would you list two of the NHL's top players in this thread, or do you not mean over-rated in the correct sense of hyped up by the masses, but not really there in skill, nor stats? In the truest sense of the words, I give you, Dion Phaneuf. Yep. Agreed. That and god I hate that guy. I kinda hate saying overrated when it's a player who'd previously been pretty worthy of their hype, or is simply declining with age. But with that said, Getzlaf. I gleefully snatched him up on one of my fantasy teams and man, he's had a bad year. His whole team has. But I figured he'd have something to show for it. Edited January 15, 2016 by Josie914 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Stamkos is right up there too, that's for sure Of the players routinely considered to he superstars (or close to it) he's definitely mine. Of lesser players, does anyone still think Dustin Brown is any good? Because he's been bad for like three years now. For goaltenders, there can be only one: Jonathan Quick. He's a good starter, but nowhere near the Price/Lundqvist class he's usually grouped with. Hell, I think Rask is clearly better too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Brown was gonna be mine, True, but honestly I didn't think anyone actually considered him good. I don't think Quick is overrated though. I could be swayed, but without knowing all of his stats off the top of my head I think he's warranted his praise Why would you list two of the NHL's top players in this thread, or do you not mean over-rated in the correct sense of hyped up by the masses, but not really there in skill, nor stats? In the truest sense of the words, I give you, Dion Phaneuf. Very good choice, NS. I offer Malkin, and Toews is definitely a starter along with Stamkos, because they're routinely considered top 5/10 talents, whereas Dion is not IMO. Overrated for sure though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABRES 0311 Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Taro Tsujimoto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 This is easy. John Scott. He got voted to the all-star game for FFS. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Crotch Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Yeah. He might be a bad choice for this, because when he was 'hyped' he had much better numbers and looked, I presume, much better than he does this year. Pekka looks bad again tonight. He just let in a weak wrap-around goal. He is a big reason the Preds are free falling in the standings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Zach Parise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Nick Foligno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BagBoy Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Fat, stupid, selfish, lilly-livered, willfully uncoachable, prima donna, no concept of defense or team, locker-room cancer, Dallas Cowboys loving, Christmas hating, halitosis breath, puppy torturing, Backstreet Boys fan, Satan worshipper...wait...what were we talking about? Oh yeah, Phil Kessel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABRES 0311 Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 (edited) Evander Kane. Maybe if he used his hands to score instead of getting into legal trouble. Just kidding. Edited January 15, 2016 by RambosKnife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Shea Weber, anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 (edited) Yep. Agreed. That and god I hate that guy. I kinda hate saying overrated when it's a player who'd previously been pretty worthy of their hype, or is simply declining with age. But with that said, Getzlaf. I gleefully snatched him up on one of my fantasy teams and man, he's had a bad year. His whole team has. But I figured he'd have something to show for it. This is an important point, I think. If a player was really good, and is declining, I would hesitate to call them overrated, as most would acknowledge the decline, and the previous statements about how good the player was would still apply to the time they were made. Not that I think Crosby won't bounce back, but I feel this applies to him. He's actually rebounding right now, but most accept that he is having a down year and wouldn't call him the best player in the league right now. In that sense, he is not overrated. When he was being called the best, he was the best. Stamkos, as mentioned, is really the first guy that comes to mind when I think of overrated. He's still a good player, but I don't really even think he is elite anymore. He couldn't even crack the first line (or play his natural position) in the playoffs last year. Granted, Cooper's stubbornness may have had something to do with that, but still. It's also worth noting that I see being overrated as relative, and not a strike against the player himself. As I brought up in another thread, I think Toews is overrated, but only in the sense that some consider him to be the best player in the world, and I don't see him as that. Maybe I should call him "overrated by some". He's still an amazing hockey player, and not overrated in the sense I think Stamkos is. Pekka looks bad again tonight. He just let in a weak wrap-around goal. He is a big reason the Preds are free falling in the standings. I was watching the game today, Rinne looked brutal. He seemed to lose them that game. Edited January 15, 2016 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 This is an important point, I think. If a player was really good, and is declining, I would hesitate to call them overrated, as most would acknowledge the decline, and the previous statements about how good the player was would still apply to the time they were made. I'm not sure I agree with this, simply because I think we're usually a couple of years late in recognizing the decline, or at least the time it takes us to accept it is actually a decline and not just a blip. And this is mostly a tangental point, but I think a lot of people tend to read "decline" as "bad" which is a bit of a pet peeve of mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 I'm not sure I agree with this, simply because I think we're usually a couple of years late in recognizing the decline, or at least the time it takes us to accept it is actually a decline and not just a blip. And this is mostly a tangental point, but I think a lot of people tend to read "decline" as "bad" which is a bit of a pet peeve of mine. Well that's exactly it. If fans are late in recognizing and more importantly admitting the decline, it can lead to a player being overrated. But sometimes the decline (which, as you say, doesn't mean the player is "bad" - more often it's just a slow, natural progression) is admitted right away, or soon enough. As seems to be the case with a guy like Getzlaf. I don't see many people calling him a top player right now. It's almost like if someone calls someone "overrated", one must ask, "By whom?" and "By what standard?" It's a difficult term to define as it's so subjective and more importantly, I think, relative. Sort of like what I think you are getting at with "decline" being read as "bad", I don't want overrated to be read as "bad". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Reeeeeaaaaally looking forward to the day, and it's coming soon, that that freak w/ the overactive pituitary gland from Bah-stan that somehow never gets suspended for his antics officially takes this title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Ryan kessler. Supposed to anchor a 2nd scoring line for the ducks and got a huge and long deal for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Zdeno Chara, Milan Lucic, and Marc Andre Fleury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Evander Kane. :devil: I think we should rename the thread to "Guys you want to dump on because, as Sabres fans, we aren't lucky enough to be able to root for" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 I think we should rename the thread to "Guys you want to dump on because, as Sabres fans, we aren't lucky enough to be able to root for" Nailed it. I totally wish the Sabres were paying Dustin Brown $6 million a year to score 30 points until he's 37. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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