inkman Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 I continue to scratch my head about the Hurley pick. It's the NHL draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 I continue to scratch my head about the Hurley pick. The only thing I didn't like about it was Nic Petan was still on the board, and every time Craig Button talked about Petan his eyes would get really big, like he had seen the baby Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Admittedly limited viewings, but I've never seen the high skill level people speak of and Petan wasn't the only intriguing prospect left that year. Hagg, Santini and Bowey were three solid defenders still on the board that would certainly strengthen our pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) He could still develop (Hurley), some players take four years of college to develop properly. It's not an encouraging pick, but honestly the worst pick so far has been Cornel to me. I'm baffled by that selection. Olofsson and Possler may have more upside than Bailey and Baptiste. (Still too early to tell). Edited October 26, 2015 by TheCerebral1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Admittedly limited viewings, but I've never seen the high skill level people speak of and Petan wasn't the only intriguing prospect left that year. Hagg, Santini and Bowey were three solid defenders still on the board that would certainly strengthen our pool. I really like Hagg too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Not impressed with Karabacek numbers so far. The Q is notoriously a high scoring league. Need him up much closer to PPG. This is a big year for Fasching. Good to see he's turning it on a bit as of late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 The only thing I didn't like about it was Nic Petan was still on the board, and every time Craig Button talked about Petan his eyes would get really big, like he had seen the baby Jesus. I say this knowing precisely zero about both Hurley and Petan, but Craig Button strikes me as a bit of a nut case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 I can't believe people are critiquing nhl draft picks. Could there be a bigger crapshoot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 I can't believe people are critiquing nhl draft picks. Could there be a bigger crapshoot? Craps perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 I say this knowing precisely zero about both Hurley and Petan, but Craig Button strikes me as a bit of a nut case. I enjoy Button. I wouldn't put him in charge of my scouting department, but he is fun to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 I enjoy Button. I wouldn't put him in charge of my scouting department, but he is fun to follow. He seems to pick one guy each year to rank 10 spots lower than everyone else, and another guy 10 spots higher than everyone else has him. Didn't he drop Hanifin out of his top 10 at some point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 I can't believe people are critiquing nhl draft picks. Could there be a bigger crapshoot?Your capacity for imagination is shockingly low considering all the time you've spent on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Schaller on his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 I can't believe people are critiquing nhl draft picks. Could there be a bigger crapshoot? The NBA draft is probably worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 The NBA draft is probably worse. Everything about the NBA is worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Everything about the NBA is worse I hear they don't even play hockey in the NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Everything about the NBA is worse You are far from the only one here who feels this way, but the NBA is indisputably smarter than the NHL in one critical aspect: regularly tweaking the rules to increase offense. The NHL has a big problem with declining scoring, and it gets worse every year. The NBA (and the NFL) don't allow that to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 I hear they don't even play hockey in the NBA. there is goaltending, but it means different stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Your capacity for imagination is shockingly low considering all the time you've spent on here. Get off my lawn! You are far from the only one here who feels this way, but the NBA is indisputably smarter than the NHL in one critical aspect: regularly tweaking the rules to increase offense. The NHL has a big problem with declining scoring, and it gets worse every year. The NBA (and the NFL) don't allow that to happen. Yep the NHL is so backwards. They keep changing rules that make it harder to score. they have all these wonderfully talented players only to suffocate them with bad officiating and stupid interpretations of rules they try to enforce. First things first. Get rid of the ridiculous goalie equipment. Secondly, start calling all the interference and stupid stick work I see every second of every game. It worked in 2005, for half a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 The only thing I didn't like about it was Nic Petan was still on the board, and every time Craig Button talked about Petan his eyes would get really big, like he had seen the baby Jesus. It'll be tough for Petan to crack an NHL lineup for an extended period of time. There is a reason he went where he did, he's absolutely minuscule. There's always Gaudreau, but he's fighting a very uphill battle. Particularly in the West. He could still develop (Hurley), some players take four years of college to develop properly. It's not an encouraging pick, but honestly the worst pick so far has been Cornel to me. I'm baffled by that selection. Olofsson and Possler may have more upside than Bailey and Baptiste. (Still too early to tell). I still think Cornel was a decent pick. He's put up reasonably good numbers and did just get named to the OHL team for the Canada Russia Junior series. He was a second round pick. Who knows with these guys. I can't believe people are critiquing nhl draft picks. Could there be a bigger crapshoot? This x100. So many of these picks are a shot in the dark. Craps perhaps? This was really good though :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakish Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 He(meaning Button) seems to pick one guy each year to rank 10 spots lower than everyone else, and another guy 10 spots higher than everyone else has him. Didn't he drop Hanifin out of his top 10 at some point? Having Hanifin too low isn't a big problem. It's what everyone remembers, but it turns out to be a terrible method of judging a draft board. It ends up that rating a player too high is what kills you. Let's look at 2013 as an example, it will help me explain. Let's say you are picking 8th, and your board looks like: 1. MacKinnon 2. Drouin 3. Jones 4. Barkov 5. Monahan 6. rakish 7. Ristolainen 8. Nich So your board looks OK, except for thinking I'm the 6th best prospect, because when you pick 8th, you end up with me, never a good thing. Now let's look when Button misses a couple low. In this example, Button's board looks like: 1. Drouin 2. Jones 3. Ristolainen 4. Zadorov ... 98. MacKinnon 102. Nich Now, you look at this, and it looks crazy, because it's obvious that MacKinnon isn't the 98th best prospect, but in the end Button gets Risto, it really doesn't matter that he had MacKinnon too low. So in this example, your board is more reasonable, but your one miss, rating a bad player too high, kills you, Button's couple of good players rated too low has no effect. Button is in my draft contest. He's competitive because he doesn't rate bad picks too high. When you look back at Central Scouting, they have terrible results because they will have a couple bad players too high, and it kills them (they also have good players rated too low as well). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 Having Hanifin too low isn't a big problem. It's what everyone remembers, but it turns out to be a terrible method of judging a draft board. It ends up that rating a player too high is what kills you. Let's look at 2013 as an example, it will help me explain. Let's say you are picking 8th, and your board looks like: 1. MacKinnon 2. Drouin 3. Jones 4. Barkov 5. Monahan 6. rakish 7. Ristolainen 8. Nich So your board looks OK, except for thinking I'm the 6th best prospect, because when you pick 8th, you end up with me, never a good thing. Now let's look when Button misses a couple low. In this example, Button's board looks like: 1. Drouin 2. Jones 3. Ristolainen 4. Zadorov ... 98. MacKinnon 102. Nich Now, you look at this, and it looks crazy, because it's obvious that MacKinnon isn't the 98th best prospect, but in the end Button gets Risto, it really doesn't matter that he had MacKinnon too low. So in this example, your board is more reasonable, but your one miss, rating a bad player too high, kills you, Button's couple of good players rated too low has no effect. Button is in my draft contest. He's competitive because he doesn't rate bad picks too high. When you look back at Central Scouting, they have terrible results because they will have a couple bad players too high, and it kills them (they also have good players rated too low as well). I don't know how big a bong hit you took before this post but keep it coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakish Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 Our 2 NCAA goalies both win. Cal Peterson (Notre Dame) and Jason Kasdorf (RPI). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted November 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Justin Bailey with his first two goals in back-to-back games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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