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The peg has the second pick that is what I was referencing.  I like Sam better than Pool Party but would think long and hard if there was a chance at getting Laine.  Sorry if my post was confusing.

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The peg has the second pick that is what I was referencing.  I like Sam better than Pool Party but would think long and hard if there was a chance at getting Laine.  Sorry if my post was confusing.

No, my reading comprehension failed. If we were talk a straight up Laine for Reinhart trade... I would consider it. If it is Sam and #8, I hang up.  I think Reinhart's ceiling is hard to gauge because of his work ethic. 

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I think one of our d prospects and a 3rd might do it.  We keep 8 and draft whoever is left of Juolevi Sergachev et. al.  That would work for me.


Don't get me wrong I like Sam.   I think he truly makes those around him better, as a C.  I just think if you wanted to accelerate things it is a deal I would consider.  

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We are in a position where Samsons ceiling, imho, will be higher at center. But with the ROR deal it is hard to see Sam getting a top 6 look at center in the next few years. While he was productive at wing I feel Laine has a higher ceiling at that position. If ROR moves to the wing maybe that solves the issue, but with the new deal I don't think that is the plan.

Watching Pittsburgh reinforces my belief that this team is begging for a three scoring line setup. Or perhaps more accurately, two balanced lines with one offensive specialist line. Don't see it happening with Bylsma though.

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I think one of our d prospects and a 3rd might do it. We keep 8 and draft whoever is left of Juolevi Sergachev et. al. That would work for me.

 

Don't get me wrong I like Sam. I think he truly makes those around him better, as a C. I just think if you wanted to accelerate things it is a deal I would consider.

I don't think a rookie accelerates things as much as a sophomore player 2 years his senior. I do love Laine though.
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I don't think a rookie accelerates things as much as a sophomore player 2 years his senior. I do love Laine though.

Two stalwarts at 2 and 8 would solidify the entire team.  Not this year but perhaps in 2.  That would make your core Eichel, Laine, Risto, Sergachev, ROR and I guess Lehner.  The compliments of Fasching, Kane, Bailey McCabe and trading for a d or signing Gokigoski would be a formidable squad.

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Watching Pittsburgh reinforces my belief that this team is begging for a three scoring line setup. Or perhaps more accurately, two balanced lines with one offensive specialist line. Don't see it happening with Bylsma though.

Always liked that idea

 

Moulson/Eichel/Stamkos

Kane/Reinhart/Vesey

Zemgus/ROR/Ennis

Foligno/Larsson/Gionta

 

Ain't the offseason fun?

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Always liked that idea

 

Moulson/Eichel/Stamkos

Kane/Reinhart/Vesey

Zemgus/ROR/Ennis

Foligno/Larsson/Gionta

 

Ain't the offseason fun?

 

1) I got the idea from you, I think. 

 

2) There is nothing "fun" about projecting Moulson to the top line. No, I don't think he could produce points there, he wouldn't be able to keep up.

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You are probably right about Moulson, but they said they'd give him a shot.

Can't ask for a better shot than that, especially considering that is the offensive specialist line that gets all the prime ice.

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I think Puljujarvi is a better prospect than Reinhart was, but everything points to Samson being a better pro than he was a prospect. So it's really not a deal I'm interested in.

 

Agree with the second and third point, but I actually think Samson was on par with Puljujarvi as a prospect.

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The peg has the second pick that is what I was referencing.  I like Sam better than Pool Party but would think long and hard if there was a chance at getting Laine.  Sorry if my post was confusing.

 

Right!

 

 

I think one of our d prospects and a 3rd might do it.  We keep 8 and draft whoever is left of Juolevi Sergachev et. al.  That would work for me.

Don't get me wrong I like Sam.   I think he truly makes those around him better, as a C.  I just think if you wanted to accelerate things it is a deal I would consider.  

 

 

Wait what?

 

 

Two stalwarts at 2 and 8 would solidify the entire team.  Not this year but perhaps in 2.  That would make your core Eichel, Laine, Risto, Sergachev, ROR and I guess Lehner.  The compliments of Fasching, Kane, Bailey McCabe and trading for a d or signing Gokigoski would be a formidable squad.

 

 

So to recap, we are getting # 2 keeping # 8 and we're doing this by giving up Guhle or Jake and a 3rd. Do I have that right?

 

I can't have it right. I'm sorry. You're saying Samson, D prospect and a 3rd? Is that right? That's a little somethin to chew on but I still don't think it works.

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I wouldn't trade Reinhart for Puljujarvi or Laine to be honest. Reinhart has already shown he's good and adaptable while hitting it off with Eichel. Laine and Pulj haven't played 1 minute in the NHL and I wouldn't risk hoping either of them hit it off with Eichel like Reinhart has.

 

Kane & Toews are friends and mutually respect one another's ability, as seen in their multiple matching contracts. I hope to see Eichel and Reinhart continue towards that. Part of what made Kane and Toews buddies was they were both rookies at the same time akin to that of how Eichel and Reinhart entered the league together.

 

 

As great as Laine/Pulj seem to be, I'll keep the guy who has already meshed with my other superstar over risking it for a marginal improvement.

 

Not to mention I think Reinhart will be fine as a winger if he's with Eichel, he'll merely adapt like he has. Maybe in 3 or 4 years they'll both be superstars and we'll be able to split them up 1C & 2C with ROR on the wing but just because Reinhart is a C by trade doesn't men I'm going to force a square block into a circle slot for the sake of making Reinhart a C.

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Right!

 

 

 

 

Wait what?

 

 

 

 

So to recap, we are getting # 2 keeping # 8 and we're doing this by giving up Guhle or Jake and a 3rd. Do I have that right?

 

I can't have it right. I'm sorry. You're saying Samson, D prospect and a 3rd? Is that right? That's a little somethin to chew on but I still don't think it works.

That's the general idea.  It might take a 2 instead of a 3 but essentially we would be trading a 2 (Sam) for this years 2 overall.  That's why I think it could work.  And while I agree Sam is a proven commodity I don't think there is much chance Laine busts.  I am of the minority that believes that there is value in putting players in their natural positions.  Sam should be in the middle and I am having a hard time seeing when that will happen.  But all of this is internet rambling with no reasonable likelihood of coming to fruition. 

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Could this be the answer at LHD? This source is Michael Pachla at Hockeybuzz, but the original is Friedman...

 

Sportsnet's Elliotte Friedman in his 30 Thoughts, has the Buffalo Sabres in on Czech defenseman Michal Kempny. Friedman wrote that "Kempny has some outstanding possession numbers. Buffalo, Chicago and Vancouver are among his most serious pursuers."

Kempny, who wears No. 6 for the Czechs, is a 6'0" 194 lbs., left-handed d-man who has been playing in the Kontinental Hockey League in Russia. The 25 yr. old had 21 points (5+16) in 59 games for Omsk Avangard last season.

Keep an eye on No. 6.

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I am going to kick your puppies, sorry... rumor has it Chicago is at the top of his list. 

 

 

now look at this gif of Alexandra Daddario 

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That's true -- Chicago was reported to have this locked up... during late-April. [April 27th - deal could be done as early as next week.]

 

I don't know the reason for the delay in closing the deal, but maybe the Chicago deal soured.

 

I will watch Daddario as I wait for the signing -- thank you!

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I'd trade Pysyk, 8th, and a 3rd or 2 for Edmonton's 4th overall

 

Why?

 

 

2 Reasons

 

1. There's a slim chance Puljujarvi may fall to 4, after all Columbus needs a C not a winger.

2. You get the pick of the litter of the 4 to 10 section Tychuck or Juolevi

 

Edmonton wouldn't take Pysyk and a 3rd to drop from 4 to 8.

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