PASabreFan Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 @john_wawrow: Person familiar with talks tells AP that Dan Bylsma is having a second meeting with #Sabres as we speak. Uh oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Hot Daniel definitely wouldn't be my choice, but I'll take him over Guy Boucher every day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) Hot Daniel definitely wouldn't be my choice, but I'll take him over Guy Boucher every day of the week. I like Boucher. I would be very happy if he came on board to coach special teams. Edited May 28, 2015 by X. Benedict Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 I like Boucher. I would be very happy if he came on board to coach special teams. Any assistant coaching position where he can't instate the trap is okay with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Just get it done. Let's keep this train moving. BTW: Pens can't get a 3rd round pick this year from us. We don't have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Any assistant coaching position where he can't instate the trap is okay with me. He's more than the trap. He had a very creative offensive system. Laviolette exposed his trap in that infamous game, but really what he tried was pretty innovative. I wouldn't dismiss him because of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Flippant and dismissive I would have accepted. I just didn't think it was unnecessary nor fairly obnoxious. The voices in my head said it necessary and yes, sometimes the voices can be obnoxious. You should try to live with them sometime. So yu tuk hookt on fonnix too? It's the burden for being pedantic. I have similar voices and ...yes Honey ....is usually what I answer to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Crotch Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger 3m3 minutes ago Sounds like dispute/clarity over draft pick compensation is one of the few things holding up the Sabres hiring Bylsma. Can't be deal breaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Paul Hamilton retweeted Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie 59s60 seconds ago On last RT, compensation issue, at least temporarily, may be gumming up works on Bylsma/BUF. Rule is rule but there are often complications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 As long as it's not a first, I'm ok with it. I'd also it rather not be a 30-45 pick either. Maybe make it conditional? Fail to make playoffs in the next two years, PIT gets a 3rd rounder instead of a 2nd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 He's more than the trap. He had a very creative offensive system. Laviolette exposed his trap in that infamous game, but really what he tried was pretty innovative. I wouldn't dismiss him because of that. Can you explain what he did with his offensive innovations? Most of what I've learned about hockey tactics in that past couple years came from your breakdowns, so I'm always chomping at the bit for more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Compensation to the Pens holding things up? We owe them a 3rd apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) If Rutherford digs in on this, he is just ###### with us and ###### with Bylsma. How often has this happened with a fired coach? Apparently they didn't ask for compensation for Shero. Edited May 28, 2015 by dudacek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Am I the only one who doesn't understand how you can fire a coach and then because they still have time on their contract you can ask other teams for compensation. I feel like if you fired him, he should be free to pursue other options. Anyways, I don't think Bylsma would cost us more than a late round pick. Okay, the boys at WGR have suggested a press conference is coming. Basically they just subtlety said before 1pm today there will be a press conference. Don't know which guy it was but he indicated it was coming sooner rather than later. I don't get it either. Are Pens still paying him? Doubtful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Compensation to the Pens holding things up? We owe them a 3rd apparently Nobody is actually reporting this. The third is just what everybody is speculating on because that's what Babcock got. I think the rule needs to be changed immediately, but it won't help here. I don't get it either. Are Pens still paying him? Doubtful Yes. They're paying him through next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Draft pick compensation is an issue with the Penguin's GM? No way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted May 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 As long as it's not a first, I'm ok with it. I'd also it rather not be a 30-45 pick either. Maybe make it conditional? Fail to make playoffs in the next two years, PIT gets a 3rd rounder instead of a 2nd? Woohoo! Welcome Back. So a Sabres choice of 2016 2nd round picks it is! Has the ink dried? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanny Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) Nobody is actually reporting this. The third is just what everybody is speculating on because that's what Babcock got. The basis of the 3rd round pick may be the below quote from Lebrun: If it’s an offseason hire for either a president of hockey operations, a GM or a head coach, it’s a third-round pick that goes the other way for a guy that’s under contract. If it’s an in-season hire, it’s a second-round pick. For a coach, the season ends as soon as his season ends but for a GM or president of hockey operations, the draft is the cutoff for in-season/offseason. http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/31/nhl-bringing-back-draft-pick-compensation-this-offseason-for-hiring-away-coaches-gms/ Edited May 28, 2015 by Lanny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Paul Hamilton retweeted Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie 59s60 seconds ago On last RT, compensation issue, at least temporarily, may be gumming up works on Bylsma/BUF. Rule is rule but there are often complications. Any possibility that the compensation issue isn't a draft pick from the Sabres, but the Pens wanting to be able to get out of paying him for the upcoming season if he's coaching elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Nobody is actually reporting this. The third is just what everybody is speculating on because that's what Babcock got. I think the rule needs to be changed immediately, but it won't help here. Yes. They're paying him through next season. Thank you. did not know that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) It sounds as the 3 round pick is compensation. CHZ has said Sabres have no third round pick. Both the Sabres and Pens may be clarifying with the league whether a fourth round, or a 2016 third is acceptable as compensation. Edited May 28, 2015 by Woods-Racer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Any possibility that the compensation issue isn't a draft pick from the Sabres, but the Pens wanting to be able to get out of paying him for the upcoming season if he's coaching elsewhere? Maybe. It's also possible, as the article we discussed the other day suggested, the Pens are trying to force the Sabres to make some sort of deal for a higher round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 We have four 3rd rounders next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 The Pens don't have to accept a pick as part of releasing Bylsma, it's just that since there is a rule, they are probably trying to take advantage of it. If it were for a fourth or lower, my guess is Murray would have just said "whatever" and got this done. But since there is some sort of delay, it suggests the Pens and Sabres are disputing something of more significance than a really low pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 I wonder what the Sabres will ask for when / if some other team hires Nolan. You can hire him as long as you take CoHo too (including his salary). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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