Derrico Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Interestingly though if you run the math, Jack and Auston played their last year of USDP at almost the same age Keller played this year. Keller was roughly 17.2 years old when the season started and Auston was roughly 17.06 years old and Jack was 16.95 years old. Keller is super young, so the math supports the idea he's possibly the best player at #8. Matthews did beat Jack in the USDP but the NHL isn't the USDP and I think that year in college will be better for Eichel than a year in the Swiss league will be for Matthews. Clayaton Keller on the other hand had 1 less goal than Jack did in the USP. Also... If you actually run the math on PPG... Matthews: 1.933ppg, 62games extrapolated from 60games = 119.9points Keller: 1.726ppg, 62games extrapolated from 62games = 107points Eichel: 1.642ppg, 62games extrapolated from 53games = 101.8points I'm really surprised Keller isn't getting more love from the scouting community. His numbers are off the friggen chart. He's undersized but not tiny. For him to be a 'reach' at 8 continues to baffle me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 (edited) If you want to meet a few of the prospects Jakob Chyrchrun, Kieffer Bellows, Lucas Johansen and Adam Fox will join Rob Ray, Danny Gare and Rene Robert in MLK Park at 3 p.m. to plant some trees. Edited June 3, 2016 by Hoss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 I'm really surprised Keller isn't getting more love from the scouting community. His numbers are off the friggen chart. He's undersized but not tiny. For him to be a 'reach' at 8 continues to baffle me. His numbers are roughly equivalent to Sam Reinhart's WHL numbers from his draft year (1.75ppg). Now take that will a grain of salt because the WHL is ranked higher than the USDP but still, Keller is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 Everything I'm hearing leads me to strongly believe Chychrun is Murray's guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 Eerything I'm hearing leads me to strongly believe Chychrun is Murray's guy. Please expound upon this conjecture. ...sources or gut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 Please expound upon this conjecture. ...sources or gut? Nobody directly involved has directly told me anything. Lots of dot connecting and winks and nudges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 Nobody directly involved has directly told me anything. Lots of dot connecting and winks and nudges. Good stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 Nobody directly involved has directly told me anything. Lots of dot connecting and winks and nudges. Nothing personal but I hope you are wrong. I think Chychrun will be a disappointment if taken in the top 10. His hockey IQ does not match his skill and size imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 Everything I'm hearing leads me to strongly believe Chychrun is Murray's guy. I'd be good with this. He's my favourite of the D, and I think the only of the D that has the potential to actually be a top 5 draft talent. Drafting Chychrun for the future, and signing Goligoski or Yandle for now, would go a long way towards shoring up our left D side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 Everything I'm hearing leads me to strongly believe Chychrun is Murray's guy. GOOD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 Nothing personal but I hope you are wrong. I think Chychrun will be a disappointment if taken in the top 10. His hockey IQ does not match his skill and size imho. I hope he's wrong too. I'd be happy with it if we traded back in for Keller though. Still, Juolevi and Keller make it a perfect draft for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 I think, after thinking a lot about it, I take the smartest defender of the big 3. That would be my deciding factor. I think Juolevi is the smartest. Well I have and still do like Chy more, I think Juolevi will be a better pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 Jakob Chychrun is GMTM buddy Luke Richardson's nephew. Not sure if the board was aware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 I think, after thinking a lot about it, I take the smartest defender of the big 3. That would be my deciding factor. I think Juolevi is the smartest. Well I have and still do like Chy more, I think Juolevi will be a better pro There is some sense to it. Juolevi may not be the fastest, the most skilled or the flashiest, but he plays a solid unnoticeable game. His passes are right on, and he skates well. He reminds me a lot of a younger Timonen. Again, this is only based on the eye test. Stats may tell me I'm wrong. Chychrun just has the boom appeal, and I love what I saw in his speed, transition game. He does have a bit to work on just like any of the top 3-4 D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 GOOD. Have you confirmed he can do pullups yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 Have you confirmed he can do pullups yet? I think it would have made news if he couldn't, like it did with Bennett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 Per Mike Morreale from NHL.com Jakob Chychrun knocking it out of the park in testing ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 Per Mike Morreale from NHL.com Jakob Chychrun knocking it out of the park in testing ... Not surprising. The physical tools and raw athleticism he possesses are unquestionable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 (edited) http://sabres.buffalonews.com/2016/06/04/pegulas-sabres-inside-knowledge-top-ranked-defenseman/ Chychrun was childhood friends with Kelly and Matt Pegula. Went to school with the owners' children. Edited June 4, 2016 by Hoss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 http://sabres.buffalonews.com/2016/06/04/pegulas-sabres-inside-knowledge-top-ranked-defenseman/ Chychrun was childhood friends with Kelly and Matt Pegula. Went to school with the owners' children. Shouldn't matter but will it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 Shouldn't matter but will it? No and I hope not. Mostly it just annoys me because now there will likely be references to meddling if he's the pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 Shouldn't matter but will it? Actually, having 1st hand experience (primarily through the owners' kids but also to a degree through the owners can only be a good thing) w/ him away from the rink should only be a good thing. They know better than most scouts what type of a kid/person he is. IF he's still on the board, that information will be a factor in the choice. It won't be the primary factor but it will be one. And it only becomes an issue if they take him and he busts or they pass and he turns into Hedman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 No and I hope not. Mostly it just annoys me because now there will likely be references to meddling if he's the pick.Yeah, the Bills have enough drama for both teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 No and I hope not. Mostly it just annoys me because now there will likely be references to meddling if he's the pick. That sound you hear? That's PA sharpening his pencils. GO SABRES!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterDays06 Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 No and I hope not. Mostly it just annoys me because now there will likely be references to meddling if he's the pick. Gmtm will quiet those down if he does choose him. Murray only makes what's good for the team choices not who they know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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