Huckleberry Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Columbus wants a center. Not just in this draft but immediately. Girgensons may appeal to them for that reason (and others). I wonder if Girgensons, 8 and a 2nd gets it done. I don't know why people want to pay so much for the #4 pick, you either offer up #8 and a 2nd or Girgensons and a 2nd. We are ditching a proven NHL player, for Tkachuck who is one of the worst when it comes to skating speed you can have in this draft. Also how much have his stats been inflated by playing on the same line with Marner and Dvorak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Yea, I don't really care that much for Tkachuk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 I don't know why people want to pay so much for the #4 pick, you either offer up #8 and a 2nd or Girgensons and a 2nd. We are ditching a proven NHL player, for Tkachuck who is one of the worst when it comes to skating speed you can have in this draft. Also how much have his stats been inflated by playing on the same line with Marner and Dvorak. Yea, I don't really care that much for Tkachuk. Columbus = #3 = Puljujarvi. Adjust your critiques accordingly :) Follow the conversation, gentlemen! :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted June 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Ty ronning He did well at certain phyiscal tests at the combine, is ranked #88 so could fall to us in the 3rd round. Is my sleeper and I think he would be a bargain in the 3rd round. Ranked 8th out of all CHL prospects (2016) in EVen strength goals per game. He had 58 points in total 40 came at even strength Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Ranked 8th out of all CHL prospects (2016) in EVen strength goals per game. He had 58 points in total 40 came at even strength Yeah I can't see him fall after the 2nd round myself, but many mock drafts do. I would take him with the 38th pick even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Columbus wants a center. Not just in this draft but immediately. Girgensons may appeal to them for that reason (and others). I wonder if Girgensons, 8 and a 2nd gets it done. Would you do that deal? I'd do that deal. Especially as Girgensons is mainly a winger in this system now anyhow. It would mean we're investing a higher stake in a RFA of Larsson (for next year), who continually goes short term deals and makes me worry about his cost/negotiability Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 (edited) I don't know why people want to pay so much for the #4 pick, you either offer up #8 and a 2nd or Girgensons and a 2nd. We are ditching a proven NHL player, for Tkachuck who is one of the worst when it comes to skating speed you can have in this draft. Also how much have his stats been inflated by playing on the same line with Marner and Dvorak. Yea, I don't really care that much for Tkachuk.There is a reason Tkachuk is consistently ranked 4th in this, a very deep draft. He's better than anyone other than the big 3. (Edit - at least as a prospect) Edited June 8, 2016 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 The excitement and speculation continue to rise Always a fun time on the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Columbus = #3 = Puljujarvi. Adjust your critiques accordingly :) Follow the conversation, gentlemen! :P Sorry :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ct fab Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Of course we do girgs + 38 + 8 for 3. Not a bad offer but would think CLB would get better. Girgs is replaced nicely by Larsson and has proven to be a mediocre - decent pro. Not sure how his RFA status affects his trade value. I'd much rather have #3 than #4 - tkachuk's lack of foot speed worries me a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 There is a reason Tkachuk is consistently ranked 4th in this, a very deep draft. He's better than anyone other than the big 3. (Edit - at least as a prospect) I wish I could find the report that mentioned that of his 77 assists something like 50 of them were secondary ones. Maybe I read it wrong. I keep reading stuff on him and trying to find video and he just doesn't do it for me. I think he will be fine in the NHL just not my style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 I'll be pretty happy if we land Juolevi or Nylander and pretty meh about everyone else that might be available at 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 I'll be pretty happy if we land Juolevi or Nylander and pretty meh about everyone else that might be available at 8. Keller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Keller?I like Keller, not sure I like him at 8. If they took him there over Chychrun and Sergachev, with Juolevi and Nylander gone, I'd be okay with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 I'll be pretty happy if we land Juolevi or Nylander and pretty meh about everyone else that might be available at 8. TM likes big athletic north americans. It's gonna be Cychrun or Brown, or a move up to #4 for Tkachuk, but that will take #8, a quality roster player and high end prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Craig Custance believes Buffalo is one of the most intriguing teams in the first round of the draft. Insider: http://espn.go.com/blog/craig-custance/insider/post?id=7893 Adding just the section about Buffalo, if this is too much let me know and I'll edit: No. 8. Buffalo Sabres The Sabres have 12 picks in this draft, and are a strong candidate to move up. Teams with that many picks don’t usually want to make them all, and it would give the Sabres ammunition to get into the top five if one of those teams is willing to move down. Buffalo needs a left-handed shooting defenseman, and a guy like Olli Juolevi would fit the bill almost perfectly. The trouble is that the Arizona Coyotes pick right before the Sabres, and the big need in the desert is on defense as well. Former Coyotes GM Don Maloney left new GM John Chayka a stable full of good young forwards, and now Chayka can focus on building the defense around Oliver Ekman-Larsson. If the Sabres decide they’re not going to get who they want at No. 8, they certainly have the assets to make a move. Not only do they have 12 picks in this year’s draft, they also have five in the first three rounds of the 2017 draft. GM Tim Murray has shown he’s not afraid to make a big move, and moving up would give the draft hosts something to get their fans excited about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Craig Custance believes Buffalo is one of the most intriguing teams in the first round of the draft. Insider: http://espn.go.com/blog/craig-custance/insider/post?id=7893 Adding just the section about Buffalo, if this is too much let me know and I'll edit: Thanks for sharing... good read. I think the chances are greater that Murray uses those extra picks (maybe even #8) as part of a larger package to acquire a roster player instead of moving up in this draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Craig Custance believes Buffalo is one of the most intriguing teams in the first round of the draft. Insider: http://espn.go.com/blog/craig-custance/insider/post?id=7893 Adding just the section about Buffalo, if this is too much let me know and I'll edit: Good stuff. I'd be a little disappointed if the Sabres traded up, only to take a Juolevi. Players of his caliber (or maybe even him) will be available at 8. If they move up I'm thinking it should be/will be for a Tkachuk or Adam DeMamp (Puljujarvi). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 If Murray thinks Juolevi is the best defender and wants him on this team then I would hope he's willing to give a little extra to ensure he gets him. If we get to pick six an he's still there I would easily offer up a 2nd or 3rd to jump two spots to land him over Arizona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 If Murray thinks Juolevi is the best defender and wants him on this team then I would hope he's willing to give a little extra to ensure he gets him. If we get to pick six an he's still there I would easily offer up a 2nd or 3rd to jump two spots to land him over Arizona. True, I should have been more specific. I wouldn't want to take Juolevi at 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 The man who most of Sabrespace considers the go to on all things NHL draft prospects released his final list. I'm looking forward to the conversation following this list and I expect many opinions to change purely based on this list solely because of how much respect there is around here for this man. I look forward to those questioning this list getting torn apart and scared away from the site. I present to you: Craig Button's final draft rankings... http://www.tsn.ca/craig-s-list-matthews-no-1-because-position-matters-1.503562 Notables: Dubois over Tkachuk at 4 Keller at 6 Sergachev as the first D at 8, Juolevi behind him at 9 Chychrun comes in as the sixth dman at 17 (Bean 12, Fabbro 15, McAvoy 16) Cam Dineen, a hopeful 2nd-rounder for Buffalo, comes in at 22 Goalie at 24 in Carter Hart Max Jones, Julien Gauthier, Tyler Benson and Riley Tufte at 42/43/44/45 respectively Ty Ronning at 83 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 The Button praise is sarcasm, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 The Button praise is sarcasm, right? What gives you that impression? As far as I can remember he's pretty well loved. He's right up there with Milan Lucic and myself as unabashed idols around these parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 The man who most of Sabrespace considers the go to on all things NHL draft prospects released his final list. I'm looking forward to the conversation following this list and I expect many opinions to change purely based on this list solely because of how much respect there is around here for this man. I look forward to those questioning this list getting torn apart and scared away from the site. I present to you: Craig Button's final draft rankings... http://www.tsn.ca/craig-s-list-matthews-no-1-because-position-matters-1.503562 Notables: Dubois over Tkachuk at 4 Keller at 6 Sergachev as the first D at 8, Juolevi behind him at 9 Chychrun comes in as the sixth dman at 17 (Bean 12, Fabbro 15, McAvoy 16) Cam Dineen, a hopeful 2nd-rounder for Buffalo, comes in at 22 Goalie at 24 in Carter Hart Max Jones, Julien Gauthier, Tyler Benson and Riley Tufte at 42/43/44/45 respectively Ty Ronning at 83 Fine by me if Chychrun falls to 8. Not fine by me if GMTM takes Bean or some such instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 What gives you that impression? As far as I can remember he's pretty well loved. He's right up there with Milan Lucic and myself as unabashed idols around these parts. That's the Hoss I remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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