Taro T Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 It was obvious that Ehrhoff no longer wanted to be in Buffalo, but I'm surprised that he's being CBOed in lieu of a trade.. The Sabres weren't going to get anything in a trade that makes the $10MM cap hit at the end worth it. If they were going to, it would have happened yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude_Verret Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 I'm at canalside with the family right now. I'm going to walk over and knock on GMTMs door for an explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matter2003 Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 I think Ehrhoff will end up getting more on the open market than he was making in Buffalo. @JoeYerdonPHT: How bad does Darcy Regier look now for the summer of 2011? Leino and Ehrhoff both bought out. Good point. I don't necessarily think that's fair to Regier. He had operated one way for his whole career here and then was given the green light to do whatever he wanted, having no prior experience doing something like that. It would be like being given a ford focus and told to drive the speed limit for 12 years and follow all the rules, then being given a Ferrari and told ignore all the rules and go as fast as you want. Is it at all surprising that he ended up crashing the car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 @RealKyper # Sabres Ehrhoff has the option to not go on #NHL waivers. Won't get his buyout agreement until he notifies club he is opting out of waivers TM and TN most likely didn't want any negativity around the team with so many younger guys around. Makes sense from that perspective. Sure, that's probably true. I'm not convinced he'd be negative. Not saying he'd be a cheerleader, but the lack of being positive doesn't necessarily mean he'd mope around and ruin the locker room. The Sabres weren't going to get anything in a trade that makes the $10MM cap hit at the end worth it. If they were going to, it would have happened yesterday. I personally like Glass' "phantom injury" idea to avoid recapture. Right now I'm just cringing at some of the horrendous UFA contracts we're about to give out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 One nuance of this situation is whether you will post in the other thread. On the one hand, you want your thread to have more posts in it and be the one that "survives" the merger. On the other hand, you want to jump in on that conversation. There are a bunch of posts just crying out for a response! What's it gonna be? Of course he wants the threads merged. Past board practice says that his thread survives the merge - his trigger finger was quicker than the other guy's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 So the final vestiges of the Regier era are almost completely gone. Regehr, Ehrhoff and Leino are all out the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 So the final vestiges of the Regier era are almost completely gone. Regehr, Ehrhoff and Leino are all out the door. Complete culture change. Exactly what the doctor ordered. GO SABRES!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) Called it. http://forums.sabrespace.com/topic/22588-compliance-buyouts/ Edited June 29, 2014 by Eleven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) Of course he wants the threads merged. Past board practice says that his thread survives the merge - his trigger finger was quicker than the other guy's. I don't really care who gets merged where with what and when haha. I just don't think "Ehrhoff BUYOUT" is a descriptive title by any means. That's all. There is more legitimate discussion in the other one, so it may make sense to merge into there and adopt a better title. Check out Vogl's twitter. He should have some juicy stuff having spoke with Murray... @BuffNewsVogl: The Sabres have started the process of buying out Christian Ehrhoff, Tim Murray says. Ehrhoff has option of going through waivers ... Edited June 29, 2014 by Tankalicious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Pretty big minutes we just lost there, any idea on who fills them? Ristolenin is a better version of the Hoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 I think this has been the plan all along, but they waited in case they could have made better use of the buyout via a draft day trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 John Vogl @BuffNewsVogl 3m Fortunately, I was in same plane as Tim Murray, so here we go ... John Vogl @BuffNewsVogl 2m The Sabres have started the process of buying out Christian Ehrhoff, Tim Murray says. Ehrhoff has option of going through waivers . John Vogl @BuffNewsVogl 53s Tim Murray believes the Ehrhoff camp will decline the waiver option, which would enable the Sabres to buy him out. John Vogl @BuffNewsVogl 47sView translation Murray will not put Ehrhoff on waivers. So the ball is in Ehrhoff's court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Called it. http://forums.sabrespace.com/topic/22588-compliance-buyouts/ I was wrong and a half with a dollar in change on this one. Vogl confirmed this after speaking with Murray. Murray also said he expects Ehrhoff to skip waivers and said he will not put him on waivers. So it looks like Murray won't actually buy him out unless Ehrhoff skips waivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) Murray Is taking this way too far. Like somebody mentioned, he's going to be in big trouble when everybody on the team who is 18-21 years old and in 5-6 years they're all going to be ready for their first big contract. This move just leaves one more position available to fill with another kid defenseman. Edited June 29, 2014 by JJFIVEOH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 @BuffNewsVogl: But frankly, Tim Murray says, Christian Ehrhoff's desire to not be part of the Sabres and defenseman's inability to improve team are huge. @BuffNewsVogl: Sabres GM Tim Murray says he's made it clear that if someone doesn't want to be in Buffalo, he'll get them out. So bye, Christian Ehrhoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Sure, that's probably true. I'm not convinced he'd be negative. Not saying he'd be a cheerleader, but the lack of being positive doesn't necessarily mean he'd mope around and ruin the locker room. I personally like Glass' "phantom injury" idea to avoid recapture. Right now I'm just cringing at some of the horrendous UFA contracts we're about to give out. I have a feeling Murray will say exactly what they were thinking with this move. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 They're going to do this the right way. They simply can't have that potential $10M cap hit down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Sure, that's probably true. I'm not convinced he'd be negative. Not saying he'd be a cheerleader, but the lack of being positive doesn't necessarily mean he'd mope around and ruin the locker room. I personally like Glass' "phantom injury" idea to avoid recapture. Right now I'm just cringing at some of the horrendous UFA contracts we're about to give out. Not sure what the 'phantom injury' plan is, didn't see it upthread, nor in the 'real' Ehrhoff thread. ;) Not sure what they'd be able to give Ehrhoff to guarantee he go along w/ that plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 @BuffNewsVogl: But frankly, Tim Murray says, Christian Ehrhoff's desire to not be part of the Sabres and defenseman's inability to improve team are huge. @BuffNewsVogl: Sabres GM Tim Murray says he's made it clear that if someone doesn't want to be in Buffalo, he'll get them out. So bye, Christian Ehrhoff. Exactly as I surmised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Ehrhoff wants out. Can't say I blame him but good riddance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 John Vogl @BuffNewsVogl 3m But frankly, Tim Murray says, Christian Ehrhoff's desire to not be part of the Sabres and defenseman's inability to improve team are huge. John Vogl @BuffNewsVogl 2m Sabres GM Tim Murray says he's made it clear that if someone doesn't want to be in Buffalo, he'll get them out. So bye, Christian Ehrhoff. And in related news, I've committed to stepping up to to help the team: Campy Campbell @CampyVB 5m @BuffNewsVogl Please tell Murray I can help - I'll take $8MM on a 1 yr deal to help the club reach the cap floor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Ehrhoff wants out. Can't say I blame him but good riddance. I have no issues with the guy. He has a window of opportunity to win a Cup and he's going to take it. And it saves the Sabres from a potential impediment to success. Win-win, as long as Terry is willing to shell out the cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Called it. http://forums.sabres...liance-buyouts/ Actually Weave called it. http://forums.sabrespace.com/topic/22416-all-about-tim-murray/page__st__40?do=findComment&comment=570994 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Pardon my ignorance, but can somebody explain the $10 mil cap hit at the end? According to Capgeek if Ebrboff retires early the hit would only be $3 mil a year at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Actually Weave called it. http://forums.sabres..._40#entry570994 Damn, you've got a good memory. I'm still awarding myself Internet Points for starting a thread about it. Many, many points. You people think d4rk is the Internet King? Just wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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