SabresBillsFan Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Who or what do you see has improved under Nolan? I think Leino and Stafford are the most improved under Nolan. For all the people that wanted Stafford gone he might up his trade value if he keeps playing better. Leino also seems to be playing better of late now. Both players not deserving of the contracts they were given by Regier but nothing that anyone can do about that now. As far as the team goes they are playing better but lets face it they are not good to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Myers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Myers, and i like how Grigorenko is getting better to. Stafford was already doing better before nolan came. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Eniss has looked good too. It seems like Nolan is trying to let these guys do what they're best at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Sabretooth seems to have improved immeasurably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 For specific players -- Myers and Stafford. Leino has also shown more life but has also taken 2 unacceptable penalties late in games with the Sabres down by 1, and in any case hasn't produced any scoring. Team-wide -- they show up and play hard for most of the game, and don't start off the games looking beaten. They also generate more pressure on the forecheck and look less beleaguered in their defensive zone. I think they've gotten just about as much out of Nolan as could be expected out of a coaching change. Now they need to upgrade the roster. The top 6 wasn't nearly good enough -- and that was before they traded Pommer and Vanek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Myers, and i like how Grigorenko is getting better to. Stafford was already doing better before nolan came. Definetly Myers. I'm still not seeing much from Grigorenko though. I'll keep giving him time as he's a rookie but I barely notice him out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Sabretooth seems to have improved immeasurably. He still bites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 They're doing a much better job at generating chances instead of just watching the other team do it all game. I assume the scoring will start going up once they start learning how to take advantage of those chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 coaching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaLaLaFontaine Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Hmmm what would have a coach Nolan done when we still had Vanek and Pommers? With Hodgson and the new compete level we would have been contending for the playoffs. With a few upgrades maybe more could have been possible? Maybe the core was not broken, maybe with a fresh management and coach directly after Tp took over we could have been a candidate for deeper playoff runs ( not a cup). But whatsoever this happened 3 years later ( too late for the option above) @OP question: They improved all over the board, Some( Myers, Leino) more than others ( Ehrhoff, who already competed before, he is just so professional) Is Nolan the hero who saves us? I don't know.I believe the new GM will choose another coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 The press conferences are better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabresBillsFan Posted November 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 The press conferences are better. That's funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Stafford has been playing better but lets not pretend that all he needs to be is a decent hockey player in order to be tradable. He needs to be scoring goals if we're flipping him for something at the deadline. The entire team gives a better effort on some nights, and I no longer have as many crushes on the team. So meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabresBillsFan Posted November 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Hmmm what would have a coach Nolan done when we still had Vanek and Pommers? With Hodgson and the new compete level we would have been contending for the playoffs. With a few upgrades maybe more could have been possible? Maybe the core was not broken, maybe with a fresh management and coach directly after Tp took over we could have been a candidate for deeper playoff runs ( not a cup). But whatsoever this happened 3 years later ( too late for the option above) @OP question: They improved all over the board, Some( Myers, Leino) more than others ( Ehrhoff, who already competed before, he is just so professional) Is Nolan the hero who saves us? I don't know.I believe the new GM will choose another coach. You bring up a great point with Pommers and Vanek. If Pegula would have cleaned house when he took over the team things might be different right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Hmmm what would have a coach Nolan done when we still had Vanek and Pommers? With Hodgson and the new compete level we would have been contending for the playoffs. With a few upgrades maybe more could have been possible? Maybe the core was not broken, maybe with a fresh management and coach directly after Tp took over we could have been a candidate for deeper playoff runs ( not a cup). But whatsoever this happened 3 years later ( too late for the option above) @OP question: They improved all over the board, Some( Myers, Leino) more than others ( Ehrhoff, who already competed before, he is just so professional) Is Nolan the hero who saves us? I don't know.I believe the new GM will choose another coach. :wallbash: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 The overall level of optimism of posts (except gdt...that is still pretty depressing.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Hmmm what would have a coach Nolan done when we still had Vanek and Pommers? With Hodgson and the new compete level we would have been contending for the playoffs. With a few upgrades maybe more could have been possible? Maybe the core was not broken, maybe with a fresh management and coach directly after Tp took over we could have been a candidate for deeper playoff runs ( not a cup). I disagree with all of this. The reason Regier had to go is because he had just poorly constructed the roster. In almost every way. Keeping guys like Pominville and Vanek (and still not having a legit top center) wouldn't have made this team any better. I mean this team, record wise, is just as bad/worse than it was before the change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaLaLaFontaine Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 :wallbash: Thank you for your constructive feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 I disagree with all of this. The reason Regier had to go is because he had just poorly constructed the roster. In almost every way. Keeping guys like Pominville and Vanek (and still not having a legit top center) wouldn't have made this team any better. I mean this team, record wise, is just as bad/worse than it was before the change. But they didn't have to get rid of Pommer and Vanek to add a good center and the other guys they need. They got rid of them because they decided they needed a complete teardown and wanted to accumulate draft picks and prospects. Pommer shouldn't have been made captain -- that was Lindy's mistake. And the rest of it, as you pointed out, was Darcy's mistake. But unloading those guys, instead of ameliorating that mistake, exacerbated it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaLaLaFontaine Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 I disagree with all of this. The reason Regier had to go is because he had just poorly constructed the roster. In almost every way. Keeping guys like Pominville and Vanek (and still not having a legit top center) wouldn't have made this team any better. I mean this team, record wise, is just as bad/worse than it was before the change. That you disagree is fine, we won't have proof. The issue was that Ruffs massage was old, the players did not compete, Regier of course signed the wrong players. A new GM and coach could have changed the whole team. An extreme example are the Penguins before their cup run ( totally different team situation, but nevertheless an example). Every team has some proven stars. Maybe with the right compete level and some smart signings a lot more could have been possible ( or not, because it happened what happened) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 But they didn't have to get rid of Pommer and Vanek to add a good center and the other guys they need. They got rid of them because they decided they needed a complete teardown and wanted to accumulate draft picks and prospects. Pommer shouldn't have been made captain -- that was Lindy's mistake. And the rest of it, as you pointed out, was Darcy's mistake. But unloading those guys, instead of ameliorating that mistake, exacerbated it. Agreed. You would be hard pressed to find a game that Jason Pominville slacked off in. He was the best two-way offensive player on the team and very much someone you could build around. Just saying it didn't have to be a complete burn down but DR lost his ability to accurately assess the teams needs and to fairly assess who was garbage and who wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knightrider Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 The press conferences are better. That was the first thing that came to my mind, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 I disagree with all of this. The reason Regier had to go is because he had just poorly constructed the roster. In almost every way. Keeping guys like Pominville and Vanek (and still not having a legit top center) wouldn't have made this team any better. I mean this team, record wise, is just as bad/worse than it was before the change. That's pretty absurd. You don't jettison two 1st line players and somehow not get worse. The team may not have been good with them, but it assuredly would be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sicknfla Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 I think more than anything he has given the players a coach they can respect and trust. With RR they had no trust or confidence. RR screamed rebuild. Nolan gives the bench and the locker room some credibility. The talent is what it is and the results won't be anything significantly better right now. I think moving forward the dividends will be huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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