Claude_Verret Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 New unis this season? https://mobile.twitt...3094913/photo/1 That would be welcome if true, that neck collar looked ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 I admit to never having heard his name before today, but the draft geeks here at work tell me that while the pick may have been a reach, his ceiling probably makes it worth it. They also said that he's a really solid kid, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 That would be welcome if true, that neck collar looked ridiculous. Agreed. Please let this be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 ah, much better. Well, given his skill sets yet the rawness of them at this time, I just felt there were other positions that could have been upgraded or, in the Bills case, addressed, as opposed to the QB situation given the high risk I felt Manuel is. It's just a personal opinion, I watched him several games this past season, he made some down right terrible decisions on throws and in other cases his accuracy was what I would consider below average even for raw talent. That's not to say he could not be a franchise QB, it's just to point out I personally felt there were better choices available come the 2nd round and I feel he would have been there in the 2nd round in any event. Once again, it's just my personal views, I don't hate the pick, I don't love the pick. I'd much preferred they went with best available as opposed to what I would consider such a high risk investment with that pick. Fair enough. Didn't mean to come across as an ass. Just comes naturally sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopefulFuture Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Fair enough. Didn't mean to come across as an ass. Just comes naturally sometimes. Same here. And it's always enjoyable to talk Bills draft, especially some of the hind sight doosy's we've had these past 12 years or so. But I was really hoping they'd address that defensive back field this season. May not have been super star talent there, but a couple of solid players really stood out to me, especially Reid from LSU. In any event, what is done is done on round 1, let's see who the look at in round 2, personally, I see them going WR then TE if Ertz is off the board by 41, if not, then there is no reason not to take Ertz I would think. They need a threat of the end of the line that can block some to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Consensus seems to be Manuel has the strongest arm and is the best natural athlete amongst the QBs. He can run and he can stand in the pocket He is also been consistently described as a natural leader, intelligent, hard-working and a great kid. His accuracy and decision-making have been questioned, yet his completion percentage is something like 68 per cent and he's thrown twice as many touchdowns as picks. His big game ability has been questioned yet he is 25-6 as a starter, 4 for 4 in bowl games, 5 for 6 against FSU's biggest rivals Florida and Miami and the senior bowl MVP. Some media experts see holes in his game that discount all of the as something of a mirage. The Bills see differently. It will be a while before we know who is right, but I am happy with the first round. Manuel seems like a kid I can cheer for. They swung for the fences and likely added another starter in the process by trading down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 I'm indifferent. The guy is big and smart. He seems to throw flatfooted many times and from what I was told, either goes to his first look, maybe second, then bolts. The Bills at least pick up another 2nd, and got the 1st guy off the board. Either set the market, or clean up the value scraps. This really is a weak draft.....guys that look like they could be nice players but a 2nd or 3rd, are going in the first this year. Reid the safety, Long and Puhl go bang in a row. I look at all those guys and say...yeah, they will probably be ok. And LGR.....you need to tell us ahead of time that the girl is from FSU before you start asking dating advice. No need to pull a hamstring on the run when you can walk into the endzone...... something I should know about FSU girls? It's kind of sad, but seeing LGR rant and rave about this pick makes me more comfortable with it. thats nice Consensus seems to be Manuel has the strongest arm and is the best natural athlete amongst the QBs. He can run and he can stand in the pocket He is also been consistently described as a natural leader, intelligent, hard-working and a great kid. His accuracy and decision-making have been questioned, yet his completion percentage is something like 68 per cent and he's thrown twice as many touchdowns as picks. His big game ability has been questioned yet he is 25-6 as a starter, 4 for 4 in bowl games, 5 for 6 against FSU's biggest rivals Florida and Miami and the senior bowl MVP. Just remember about his completion percentage is he played in the ACC, they have questionable defenses at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Consensus seems to be Manuel has the strongest arm and is the best natural athlete amongst the QBs. He can run and he can stand in the pocket He is also been consistently described as a natural leader, intelligent, hard-working and a great kid. His accuracy and decision-making have been questioned, yet his completion percentage is something like 68 per cent and he's thrown twice as many touchdowns as picks. His big game ability has been questioned yet he is 25-6 as a starter, 4 for 4 in bowl games, 5 for 6 against FSU's biggest rivals Florida and Miami and the senior bowl MVP. Some media experts see holes in his game that discount all of the as something of a mirage. The Bills see differently. It will be a while before we know who is right, but I am happy with the first round. Manuel seems like a kid I can cheer for. They swung for the fences and likely added another starter in the process by trading down. A note on the accuracy and completion percentage thing: we know they're not one in the same. Just because a pass is completed doesn't mean it was put in the right place, or in stride, and so on. That said, I think the only accuracy which has really been questioned by anyone is the deep ball. From what I've seen his long ball is pretty hit or miss, but I never observed much of a problem on short and intermediate throws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 A note on the accuracy and completion percentage thing: we know they're not one in the same. Just because a pass is completed doesn't mean it was put in the right place, or in stride, and so on. That said, I think the only accuracy which has really been questioned by anyone is the deep ball. From what I've seen his long ball is pretty hit or miss, but I never observed much of a problem on short and intermediate throws. His issue is anticipation more than anything. Openings close quicker in the NHL so he needs to through Receivers open and I doubt he can. I hope I am extremely wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 something I should know about FSU girls? http://www2.erie.gov/health/index.php?q=node/92 Fun FSU story.......a friend of mine was an FSU grad and friends with a certain NFL player who is now retired. He relayed a story to me of how he took part in certain acts of passion with this player's girlfriend who later became his wife. It was quite detailed and quite funny. A few years later after learning this story and just throwing it in the back of my mental files, this player who was in a key position, came to Buffalo late in the season to play the Bills in a game where Buffalo was very much alive for the playoffs. I called my friend from the tailgate to inform him I was going to get the attention of this player in warmups and let him know just what had happened between his wife and friend. Knowing what devious thoughts I am capable of, and of my passionate fandom....he really thought I was going to go through with it. Sadly, I showed some morals....and the Bills lost. I think Wolfie went to FSU? Maybe he has some good stories about the ladies there....... And I'm sure your girl is fine. She cooked you sauce, right? As long as it wasn't Puttanesca......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Really, there seems to be some comparisons to be made with Manuel and Grigorenko — they both have top-notch size and skill packages and have put up great numbers. But each seems to have left their share of scouts questioning whether they have all the ingredients to carry that over to the next level of competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Really, there seems to be some comparisons to be made with Manuel and Grigorenko — they both have top-notch size and skill packages and have put up great numbers. But each seems to have left their share of scouts questioning whether they have all the ingredients to carry that over to the next level of competition. Manuel can't skate for ######. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Manuel can't skate for ######. And Grigo throws a football like he's using the wrong hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 And Grigo throws a football like he's using the wrong hand. Have you ever actually seen him throw a football? Actually, for him, wouldn't he have to throw a football with two hands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Manuel can't skate for ######. And Grigo throws a football like he's using the wrong hand. ###### forum can't even this team some slack in imaginary games :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 http://www2.erie.gov...x.php?q=node/92 Fun FSU story.......a friend of mine was an FSU grad and friends with a certain NFL player who is now retired. He relayed a story to me of how he took part in certain acts of passion with this player's girlfriend who later became his wife. It was quite detailed and quite funny. A few years later after learning this story and just throwing it in the back of my mental files, this player who was in a key position, came to Buffalo late in the season to play the Bills in a game where Buffalo was very much alive for the playoffs. I called my friend from the tailgate to inform him I was going to get the attention of this player in warmups and let him know just what had happened between his wife and friend. Knowing what devious thoughts I am capable of, and of my passionate fandom....he really thought I was going to go through with it. Sadly, I showed some morals....and the Bills lost. I think Wolfie went to FSU? Maybe he has some good stories about the ladies there....... And I'm sure your girl is fine. She cooked you sauce, right? As long as it wasn't Puttanesca......... interesting and yes she made spaghetti sauce and is an excellent cook. as far as other FSU girls, i don't know any lol but your story was intriguing. Still dislike the pick but lets see how the second round goes... maybe we will draft Nassib today lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 It's kind of sad, but seeing LGR rant and rave about this pick makes me more comfortable with it. Not to ruin your day, I like the pick a lot. It was a very smart move, they got the QB they wanted and picked up the #46 pick in the draft. The Bills used 1 pick to possibly fill two needs. That's smart asset management. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppy22 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Round 2 Pick Lets pick another QB... Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Hey guys remember that one time when the Bills reached on a QB even though no one else drafted one til the jets in RND 2 meaning we would have gotten the same guy in rnd 2? Remember that? Remember when we passed on all those other good players for no other reason than sheer incompetence? Yea those were good times. ps. don't feed me the line someone else would have taken Emanuel, because no one was ###### taking him in round 1. guess we want to suck this year so we can draft Clowney next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Crotch Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Robert Woods is a good pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Robert Woods is a good pickup. I like this pick a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Robert Woods is a good pickup. I like this pick a lot. A speedier Stevie Johnson? Yes please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody Posted April 27, 2013 Report Share Posted April 27, 2013 LB Kiko Alonso with 2nd 2nd. I'll like the pick once he shows something in training camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 27, 2013 Report Share Posted April 27, 2013 LB Kiko Alonso with 2nd 2nd. I'll like the pick once he shows something in training camp. he was projected to go in the 3rd, hes a really raw talent but does show some promise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted April 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2013 LB Kiko Alonso with 2nd 2nd. I'll like the pick once he shows something in training camp. He sounds like an idiot. Goodman was a wasted pick as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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