Lindy Must Be Next

[triumph_communes]

57 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said:

We're 15th in PP% and 3rd in PK%. Theoretically, that's the result of decent coaching.

In all situations (5 on 5 and special teams), we've had the 4th worst goals against above expected in the league. If we had half decent goaltending we'd be in a playoff spot. If we had good goaltending, we could be looking at home ice advantage in the 1st round of the playoffs. This is with all the injuries.

There's been vast improvements this year. I say we owe it to Lindy to see this through riding Lyon as far as he can take the team.

Season has been fine minus the injuries and every damn game UPL has played. Isn’t Lindy’s fault imo

[JoeSchmoe]

6 minutes ago, Taro T said:

15th in PP with a Norris caliber D-man QBing it, and player with 1 of the 5 best 1 timers in the league.  2 guys that are very good near the net.  And now a guy that can win faceoffs and has a pretty good 1 timer from the other side.  And that 15th rank AFTER going on a 8 PPG in 6 games heater.  There is too much talent for this PP to NOT go on a run here or there.  That unit scores despite coaching, not because of it.  And they oftentimes don't even bother putting 1 of those 2 good net front guys on that top unit.

This team's PP SHOULD be top 10 every year.  It isn't and usually doesn't come close to that because the coaching - entries, lack of movement, etc. is brutally bad.

People still think that '23 PP was all that.  It truly was for 6-7 weeks.  It was awesome.  And then opponents figured it out and it went back to being middling at best the rest of that season, though not quite as horrible as it had been to start that year.

 

And, have said several times this year that Wilford is doing a very good job with the PK.  Significantly better than expected he'd be able to get them playing.  Good on him.

But, Appert hasn't earned any kudos yet.  They still do a lot of dumb things consistently.  And that consistency is on coaching.

I feel like we're good, but there's a lot of teams with high end talent on the PP. On paper, I feel like 15 sounds about right. However, given our injury problems, and Dahlin taking a while to get going (understandably), they "seem" to be heading towards better things. 

[Taro T]

Just now, triumph_communes said:

Season has been fine minus the injuries and every damn game UPL has played on the road. Isn’t Lindy’s fault imo

FTFY.

And both Lyon and Ellis have had at least 1 stinker this year of the own too.

[Taro T]

3 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said:

I feel like we're good, but there's a lot of teams with high end talent on the PP. On paper, I feel like 15 sounds about right. However, given our injury problems, and Dahlin taking a while to get going (understandably), they "seem" to be heading towards better things. 

We shall see.   Again, personally believe this team's PP should be top 10 consistently.  (Am still pleasantly surprised that the PK has been as good as it has.  That's the unit that seems to be middle of the pack quality when looking at it on paper.)

[LGR4GM]

21 minutes ago, Taro T said:

15th in PP with a Norris caliber D-man QBing it, and player with 1 of the 5 best 1 timers in the league.  2 guys that are very good near the net.  And now a guy that can win faceoffs and has a pretty good 1 timer from the other side.  And that 15th rank AFTER going on a 8 PPG in 6 games heater.  There is too much talent for this PP to NOT go on a run here or there.  That unit scores despite coaching, not because of it.  And they oftentimes don't even bother putting 1 of those 2 good net front guys on that top unit.

This team's PP SHOULD be top 10 every year.  It isn't and usually doesn't come close to that because the coaching - entries, lack of movement, etc. is brutally bad.

People still think that '23 PP was all that.  It truly was for 6-7 weeks.  It was awesome.  And then opponents figured it out and it went back to being middling at best the rest of that season, though not quite as horrible as it had been to start that year.

 

And, have said several times this year that Wilford is doing a very good job with the PK.  Significantly better than expected he'd be able to get them playing.  Good on him.

But, Appert hasn't earned any kudos yet.  They still do a lot of dumb things consistently.  And that consistency is on coaching.

Preaching to the choir. I still wonder if that little stretch convinced ppl like Appert and the players that that was the way to go. Just get it to a one timer at the dots.

[clink]

1 hour ago, Doohickie said:

Playfair:  "My grandmother put shaving cream in my hand while I was sleeping once...."

 

 

 

Now, THAT'S a reference 🤣🤣🤣

[GASabresIUFAN]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Cleaning house mid season limits your hiring pool, doesn't it?

It does, but I didn’t say tomorrow either.  That said there are good people sitting at home right now, such as DeBoer for example.

[PerreaultForever]

I think Lindy has done a terrible job. Out of historical loyalty I tend to blame the assistants and the fact he was saddled with them but he really hasn't gotten it done and really looks like an old guy well past his era. I'd clean house right now if I was GM but mid season is difficult. There is however the Olympic break. Ideal time to bring in a complete new coaching staff with time to get organized. DeBoer is out there. Tortorella if you want to create an earthquake. Whatever he does I think Lindy's time should in fact end.

[Carmel Corn]

6 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

I think Lindy has done a terrible job. Out of historical loyalty I tend to blame the assistants and the fact he was saddled with them but he really hasn't gotten it done and really looks like an old guy well past his era. I'd clean house right now if I was GM but mid season is difficult. There is however the Olympic break. Ideal time to bring in a complete new coaching staff with time to get organized. DeBoer is out there. Tortorella if you want to create an earthquake. Whatever he does I think Lindy's time should in fact end.

I can’t remember….did Jarmo hire Torts in Columbus?

[GoPuckYourself]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

The right people who are currently unemployed.

Yes

[Shoot da Puck]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Tortorella

[pi2000]

Lindy seems like a GMJK kind of coach.    I'll be surprised if he's fired.

What I do expect is a shakeup in the scouting department, perhaps a few assistant coaches as well.

 

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4 minutes ago, pi2000 said:

Lindy seems like a GMJK kind of coach.    I'll be surprised if he's fired.

What I do expect is a shakeup in the scouting department, perhaps a few assistant coaches as well.

I guess we'll see if Lindy is a GMJK guy and if the speculation that Lindy was told to take Appert et all was/is correct or not. 

If he likes Lindy and gives Lindy the ability to shape his coaching staff, does Appert go? The only coach worth keeping is whoever is responsible for the PK.

[Taro T]

6 minutes ago, ... said:

I guess we'll see if Lindy is a GMJK guy and if the speculation that Lindy was told to take Appert et all was/is correct or not. 

If he likes Lindy and gives Lindy the ability to shape his coaching staff, does Appert go? The only coach worth keeping is whoever is responsible for the PK.

Umm, that coach is Wilford.  The guy that is also responsible for the 5v5 defensive zone coverage.  Maybe keep him, but make him a PK coaching specialist?

[PerreaultForever]

1 hour ago, Carmel Corn said:

I can’t remember….did Jarmo hire Torts in Columbus?

yes. 

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13 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Umm, that coach is Wilford.  The guy that is also responsible for the 5v5 defensive zone coverage.  Maybe keep him, but make him a PK coaching specialist?

Yeah, that's interesting. My impression is when the 5v5 D coverage is executed correctly, it seems to be effective. Notably as of late. Have the players not been quick enough to play D? Is there something wrong with the 5v5 scheme? I think perhaps he'd have to stay, just as you say, a PK specialist. I mean, you can't give up that PK - if the season is somehow salvaged, the PK will be the reason why, getting them though this period and all.

[Doohickie]

39 minutes ago, pi2000 said:

Lindy seems like a GMJK kind of coach.    I'll be surprised if he's fired.

What I do expect is a shakeup in the scouting department, perhaps a few assistant coaches as well.

I could live with some shakeup among the assistants.  The fact that Lindy had to keep the same old crowd was just.... weird.

[GoPuckYourself]

No more Sabre retreads either.... No Michael peca, no Jay Mckee, no Dominek Hasek... NO MORE SABRES!!!!

[erickompositör72]

53 minutes ago, ... said:

I guess we'll see if Lindy is a GMJK guy and if the speculation that Lindy was told to take Appert et all was/is correct or not. 

If he likes Lindy and gives Lindy the ability to shape his coaching staff, does Appert go? The only coach worth keeping is whoever is responsible for the PK.

Watch that end up having been Lindy himself

[SabresBillsFan]

4 hours ago, HumanSlinky39 said:

Hopefully Jarmo is blowing up DeBoer's Agent's phone right now.

^ This

[Flashsabre]

 

[Archie Lee]

I will predict that Pascal Vincent, currently the HC in Laval, is the next head coach of the Sabres. There was precedent set two years ago when Edmonton plucked Knoblach off the Ranger’s AHL team mid-season. I think it will be an offseason move though. 

[SDS]

6 hours ago, Taro T said:

Midseason coaching changes USUALLY work just by giving the players a different voice to be following even when the tactics don't change significantly. 

This has been studied and this is not true. The reason why it appears coaching changes work is because of revision to the mean. Coaches get fired in valleys, when the team appears worse than they are. They naturally revert back to the mean after the change and fans erroneously attribute that to the coaching change.

[Doohickie]

54 minutes ago, SDS said:

This has been studied and this is not true. The reason why it appears coaching changes work is because of revision to the mean. Coaches get fired in valleys, when the team appears worse than they are. They naturally revert back to the mean after the change and fans erroneously attribute that to the coaching change.

So if we bounce up from a winning streak, what does that mean?