Chris Johnston: The Sabres yearly struggles are "a concern at the league level"

[#freejame]

9 hours ago, tom webster said:

A) it’s not uncommon for big holding companies to focus on problem areas of their business

B) The Shanahan stuff has been deemed hogwash by most reputable sources

C) The doom and gloom is not universally shared and some national publications list Buffalo in the more improved and fringe playoff range.

D) Most of these media pundits have an agenda

E) The league’s bigger problem is the divide between the halves and halves nots which they try and hide with their silly points system.

This has been true much of the last 10 years. That doesn’t mean those people have all been wrong when it’s all said and done. 

[Mango]

1 hour ago, #freejame said:

This has been true much of the last 10 years. That doesn’t mean those people have all been wrong when it’s all said and done. 

I'll add to this that sure, the doom and gloom isn't "universally" shared.  But that's basically a technicality.

If you asked my 100000 year old grandma about the Sabres she'd talk about what a nice boy Alex Tuch is.

But if you asked 100 people on the street about the Sabres 88 of them would say "they suck".

So sure, there are a couple of "Grandma Mango's" in every group. But it's still "universally agreed upon" that the Sabres suck.

[PerreaultForever]

2 hours ago, Big Guava said:

It doesn't even make sense. Typically if a team struggles for a long period of time it's because they draft very poorly.  This is not the case with the Sabres. They have drafted very well for the most part.

It's nearly impossible to be this bad for this long with their drafting track record.

Not entirely true. A lot of very high picks so a lot of players but how many Sabres picks do we have on the roster aside from the 2 number one overalls? Quinn, UPL, Samuelsson as guys who should be good by now. Benson and Kulich (and maybe Kozak) as young prospects on the roster. Is that really a great draft haul for a team this bad this long? 

How have the later rounds worked out for us? Now they rarely work for anybody, but you really can't say we have "drafted very well". 

[SwampD]

12 hours ago, tom webster said:

A) it’s not uncommon for big holding companies to focus on problem areas of their business

B) The Shanahan stuff has been deemed hogwash by most reputable sources

C) The doom and gloom is not universally shared and some national publications list Buffalo in the more improved and fringe playoff range.

D) Most of these media pundits have an agenda

E) The league’s bigger problem is the divide between the halves and halves nots which they try and hide with their silly points system.

Freudian slip? Or do you mean whatever talent good teams have, the Sabres have half that amount?

[inkman]

35 minutes ago, Mango said:

I'll add to this that sure, the doom and gloom isn't "universally" shared.  But that's basically a technicality.

If you asked my 100000 year old grandma about the Sabres she'd talk about what a nice boy Alex Tuch is.

But if you asked 100 people on the street about the Sabres 88 of them would say "they suck".

So sure, there are a couple of "Grandma Mango's" in every group. But it's still "universally agreed upon" that the Sabres suck.

I mean who hasn’t searched grandma’s mangoes for Christ's sake 

[PromoTheRobot]

8 hours ago, jahnyc said:

I think the point in the pod cast was that Byram (maybe, more specifically his agent) may still want to go to free agency in two years even if traded to a team that wants to sign him long term.  Any team interested in Byram would take that into account in terms of the value they will be willing to give up for him.

Instigators podcast? Chad D?

[tom webster]

3 hours ago, SwampD said:

Freudian slip? Or do you mean whatever talent good teams have, the Sabres have half that amount?

Good catch.

5 hours ago, #freejame said:

This has been true much of the last 10 years. That doesn’t mean those people have all been wrong when it’s all said and done. 

Valid point.

[tom webster]

7 hours ago, MattPie said:

https://thehockeynews.com/news/latest-news/nhl-summer-splash-rankings-no-32-buffalo-sabres

 

I’m not sure anyone considers the hockey news a major publication anymore but two things;

1) I didn’t say it was universally accepted 

2) it’s no coincidence that old school hockey people don’t like the Sabres approach.