Sabres Trade JJ Peterka to Utah for Defenseman Michael Kesselring and Forward Josh Doan

[Turbo44]

4 hours ago, 7+6=13 said:

I have a feeling we're going to really like Doan.

In Rochester. This sets a horrible precedence - seems all you need to do to get out Buffalo is demand a trade. How long until tage and Dahlin demand out? Btw, Utah has a state tax but I’m told they may have palm trees??

Adams is a joke. He better have a plans to sign a UFA top 6 forward with the money he just saved. He better also resign Byrum to play with Dahlin. Byrums analytics with Dahlin are quite good and pairing Dahlin with the oft-injured p*ssy samuelson on the first line is unacceptable 

Edited 4 hours ago by Turbo44

[pastajoe]

 

[Drag0nDan]

2 minutes ago, Turbo44 said:

In Rochester. This sets a horrible precedence - seems all you need to do to get out Buffalo is demand a trade. How long until tage and Dahlin demand out? Btw, Utah has a state tax but I’m told they may have palm trees??

Adams is a joke. He better have a plans to sign a UFA top 6 forward with the money he just saved. He better also resign Byrum to play with Dahlin. Byrums analytics with Dahlin are quite good and pairing Dahlin with the oft-injured p*ssy samuelson on the first line is unacceptable 

Well they did a very bad deal with him. 5 years at almost 8? He had 4 years of team control. They got one extra year for giving him a boat of cash. 

[#freejame]

Thoughts:

-After all the reports of interest in Peterka, the return is disappointing. Makes me wonder if other GMs thought it would have taken them less

-Count me skeptical on Kesselring. I’m not of the belief that D are as plug and play as F, and he’s probably coming in to a less disciplined team defensively

-On the flip side, it wouldn’t surprise me if Doan plays a larger role here. People will like him

-As long as Kevyn Adams is making the decisions, I will not have confidence in the Sabres being successful

-There’s a general turning on Terry over the last 2-3 months coming from the Athletic and their writers. It’s interesting. Much of what I see now are things people have been saying even before EEE was implemented. 

-We’ve got more cap space to make a big move in FA this summer. Kesselring+Doan+Marner (7x14) for Peterka is great for us. 

[The Jokeman]

2 minutes ago, #freejame said:

Thoughts:

-After all the reports of interest in Peterka, the return is disappointing. Makes me wonder if other GMs thought it would have taken them less

-Count me skeptical on Kesselring. I’m not of the belief that D are as plug and play as F, and he’s probably coming in to a less disciplined team defensively

-On the flip side, it wouldn’t surprise me if Doan plays a larger role here. People will like him

-As long as Kevyn Adams is making the decisions, I will not have confidence in the Sabres being successful

-There’s a general turning on Terry over the last 2-3 months coming from the Athletic and their writers. It’s interesting. Much of what I see now are things people have been saying even before EEE was implemented. 

-We’ve got more cap space to make a big move in FA this summer. Kesselring+Doan+Marner (7x14) for Peterka is great for us. 

Even if add Marner now, we'd still have questions on the 2nd line and goaltending.

[GASabresIUFAN]

Here is something to make everyone feel better.  Kesserling is an RFA after next season.  So who is he getting trade for at the deadline so that KA can keep Samuelsson and not pay the newcomer?

Bo Byram/Mitts trade 2.0 with the same future results.  

To make matters worse he has given every young player who is “unhappy” a way out of town.  This franchise is just about dead.  

By the way no one is going to “like” Doan.  He isn’t his Dad.  He is at best a bottom 6 forward who has shown no ability to score goals.  At least he’s young and cheap.  

The only person thrilled with this trade is Quinn.  He now gets a chance to prove he can play in a top 6 role.  When he plays well, Adams will trade him too.  Very exciting times in Sabreland.  

Edited 28 minutes ago by GASabresIUFAN

[CallawaySabres]

We all knew that the second Adams was kept on, any trade value coming back for these moves was going to be awful. If the owner doesn’t care, honestly, why should we?

this is where I have landed and I just hope that a new GM next year can get much better trade value for Dahlin.

[mjd1001]

What I need to know...2 things:

-If Kesserling were not here, who would be getting those minutes. Meaning, how much of an improvement (overall) is Kesserling over the minutes without him?

-Who will be getting Peterkas minutes. How much of a downgrade (overall) will that play have vs JJP.

[Sidc3000]

8 hours ago, pastajoe said:

This is the same guy who said they were buying out Samuelsson. He’s not very credible.

Well he was 100% correct.  Honestly, I trust him more that I ever trust Adams. Adams just said that his exit interview with Perterka was positive. I call bulls#it. 

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[Sidc3000]

10 minutes ago, #freejame said:

Kesselring+Doan+Marner (7x14) for Peterka is great for us. 

I don’t understand why people think Marner is even in the mix.  Why the hell would he want to come to the Sabres? 

Edited 4 hours ago by Sidc3000

[North Buffalo]

Competition for Muel

[Rasmus_]

15 minutes ago, North Buffalo said:

Competition for Muel

The only competition for Muel is the IR. 

Edited 4 hours ago by Rasmus_

[aristocrat]

We better be getting pettersson and marner 

[GASabresIUFAN]

3 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

We better be getting pettersson and marner 

As if that’s happening.  He trading Byram for a cost controlled depth D and a draft pick.  
 

The D group for next year has now been completed 

Dahlin Kesselring

Power JDB

Samuelsson Clifton

Bryson Depth D from Byram trade.  
 

Very exciting times in Sabreland. 

[HumanSlinky39]

Two "decent" players but do not see how this makes us better. Guess I'll wait to see what else happens this summer to get a total picture to judge. Initial reaction is... underwhelmed.

[Sidc3000]

1 minute ago, HumanSlinky39 said:

Two "decent" players but do not see how this makes us better. Guess I'll wait to see what else happens this summer to get a total picture to judge. Initial reaction is... underwhelmed.

It’s not about making the Sabres better, it’s about letting a player leave who, checks notes, don’t want to be here. 
 

i can’t wait till next summer when they trade Tage and Dahlin. 

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[Rasmus_]

4 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

As if that’s happening.  He trading Byram for a cost controlled depth D and a draft pick.  
 

The D group for next year has now been completed 

Dahlin Kesselring

Power JDB

Samuelsson Clifton

Bryson Depth D from Byram trade.  
 

Very exciting times in Sabreland. 

Looks absolutely abysmal.  

[WhenWillItEnd66]

Ok, i HATE the trade, but love what we got back. IMHO we did not get enough, unless Kesserling turns into that solid top 4 physical defensive dman (Which is well in his wheelhouse) and Doan turns into a solid insane forchecking 3rd liner. IF JJ stays where he currently is at and Doan and Kesserling are what we hope then the trade is good. If not, then we just got screwed!!! Either way, we got more physical and harder to play against and gave up a 30 goal scorer that does not know the word defense. 

[CallawaySabres]

At this point, I hope Adams trades every single prospect and the number nine pick for some decent NHL players to make one final run at the playoffs while my son is still in high school

this time next year, I will have jumped ship completely. Just give me one playoff appearance this year and I promise I will go away.

[inkman]

I like the guys they got.  Whether or not it’s equal value is irrelevant to me. The team needed a culture change.  Getting bad players (Dylan Cozens) or offense only allergic to defense players (Peterka) off the roster in exchange for engaged, physical players is a win in my book.  

[HumanSlinky39]

1 minute ago, inkman said:

I like the guys they got.  Whether or not it’s equal value is irrelevant to me. The team needed a culture change.  Getting bad players (Dylan Cozens) or offense only allergic to defense players (Peterka) off the roster in exchange for engaged, physical players is a win in my book.  

If JJP didn't want to be here, then yeah, get rid of him. I don't have a problem with either player that came back, just feels like it should've been more. But it's Adams, so I guess we should just be happy he didn't screw up worse.

[JohnC]

43 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

After 54 years I’m done as well.   

This Sabres are now the Marlins of the NHL, but at least the Marlins won 2 WS.  

Don’t make an emotional reactionary response to this trade. In isolation it might draw a negative response but in a bigger context it is a step in making it a tougher and better team. 
 

The Sabres got a first or second pairing defender. That certainly addresses a desperate need. And we also added a grittier forward, another need.

It appears that JJP deeply didn’t want to be here. So we ended up with pieces that addresses other needs. In my view this was a reasonable deal that helps to reshape the roster in a way it needs to be reshaped.
 

Now let’s see what the follow up will be. Also, I see a Ruff influence here.

[WhenWillItEnd66]

3 minutes ago, inkman said:

I like the guys they got.  Whether or not it’s equal value is irrelevant to me. The team needed a culture change.  Getting bad players (Dylan Cozens) or offense only allergic to defense players (Peterka) off the roster in exchange for engaged, physical players is a win in my book.  

I am with you here Ink. Just watching JJ play last year reminded me of Reinhart in his last year. Zero emotion. This team can score. This team cannot play defense. JJ was one of the biggest zeros in defensive play on the team. Scoring 30 does not mean crap if you give up 50! I do like both players that came back. IF they live up to what they can be then we did ok. Physical and forechecking. Yes please!! There is still work to be done, but i think we are all jaded with lack of playoffs. Defense just got better! Is that not part of the problem? 

[Weave]

During the tank years I was pretty adamant that a GM that waited until trade deadline to move players they did not expect to re-sign was a negligent Gm because they waited until value was minimized to make the move.  I like this deal because KA moved JJP while his value was still high.

I don’t like this move because it feels like we didn’t get equal value in return.

This is an attempt to change the type of play on the ice.  I think the team needs that desperately.  Is it enough?  Probably not, especially when we now have to overcome the loss of JJs offense. No easy task as currently it requires the current roster to perform above their past performances.

I will withhold judgement until after Byram is moved.

[bob_sauve28]

6 hours ago, krakensabr56390 said:

Peterka is a good fwd be he is not a star - we need to stop exaggerating 60-70 pt one dimensional player. He has a lot to prove to be a a star - or will be a Jeff skinner 2.0. Would you be mad getting the return we got for Jeff skinner in his youth knowing what he is? If they actually spend the money they have from doing this ( big if) it’s these 2 guys plus another 5 million dollar player 

 

we have a few guys that can turn into another JJ in the pipeline but no one like the 2 guys we just got.

 

Yup, JJP is highly skilled, but this team has a problem playing as a team and it seems some of that was JJp, who wanted to score, but was skitchy on back checking. Him and Quinn were super fun to watch, but it was also a high wire act. Not sure if this is a case of "addition by subtraction" but it might be. Remember JJP slipped into the second round, in spite of all his talent. Maybe there is a reason for that.