GoPuckYourself Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 52 minutes ago, JohninMinn. said: I have no idea what you are watching. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABRES 0311 Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 The answer to OP’s question will depend on where they are in the standings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 The Sabres went 3-3 on the homestand beating only bad teams and losing to the 3 decent teams they played. This season is basically done and it's time to start thinking about next year. So what to do? If I'm KA, my first move is trading Jokiharju for a team looking for D help. The Sabres have 5 D under contract for next season. The team is locked to Dahlin, Power, and Samuelsson. Clifton has come on of late and has another 2 years on his deal. Rookie Ryan Johnson has outplayed Joki which has led Joki to be a healthy scratch. Last year KA inexplicably held on to or brought back Bryson, VO, and Jost who were all healthy scratches last season. It's time to not make the same mistake again. Time to trade Joki while playoff teams are desperate for D help and get as big a return as possible. This move solidifies Johnson's spot in the lineup and gives the team a better chance of winning. Along the same vein, I'd trade Krebs as well. What has he done to earn an extension? He's still young and is an RFA. Someone will take a shot at him. Given our forward depth in the system, time to clear some dead weight. Jost or a contract received in the trade for Joki or Krebs can fill in as the 4th C. I'm also interested in giving Greenway an extended look as the 4th C for next season. If we have to take a contract back in these deals so be it. We have the cap space and that will up the return. The next move is to trade Girgensons. Might as well play Robinson every night to see if he is worth re-signing. He is also faster than the other depth players and unlike most Sabres he is willing to crash the net. The other move is trading VO. Teams in the playoff race want depth scoring and he needs a fresh start elsewhere. If we have to eat some cap and/or take back a contract again so be it. I'm holding onto EJ and KO unless they ask to be traded. This is a bit of a change in opinion, but I still want to field a decent team. That said, I'm not re-signing either play for next season. I'm also hopeful that KA might find a way to land a top 4 D to partner with Dahlin or Power to get a head start on next season. I'm also hopeful that KA is showcasing Comrie for a trade, but if not, I'm still willing to let Comrie back up UPL for the remainder of the season to allow Levi to be the starter for the Amerks and hopefully get playoff starts. Here is how the post-trade deadline might look Forwards Skinner TNT Tuch Benson Mitts Quinn JJP Cozens (Greenway, Kulich, Rosen, or a new player) Robinson Greenway (Jost?/New player?) KO Defense Dahlin Ryan Johnson (new player?) Power Clifton (or RJ) Mule Eric Johnson Goalies UPL Comrie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABRES 0311 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 VO is the most likely to get moved. Wouldn’t be surprised is Mitts gets moved but I think that should wait until the summer. He has a NTC and a bad contract but if Skinner is traded, crazier things have happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 I could see us do almost nothing at the deadline. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Lee Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Factoring in everything (performance, contract status, cap hit, future value to team), I would say Girgs and Eric Johnson are the most likely to be moved assets. If we eat 50% and are willing, if needed, to take a contract back, then I think there are contending teams that might see them as valuable depth additions. I don’t think we trade Okposo unless he asks for it. I don’t think there are contending teams looking to add RFAs like Joker and Krebs. I think Olofsson’s contract, even at 50% retention, makes him hard to move and we have gone out of our way to make him nearly impossible to move with how he has been used. Unless Adams changes strategy and makes a big acquisition, it will be a quiet deadline. Maybe a couple of vets out (Girgs and Johnson) for 5th rounders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 No deadline deal is going to make or break this season. I expect minor moves if any. The coming offseason may be another story. Most 'hockey trades' happen in the summer, especially if a team is not likely to play a big role in the UFA transfer window. Adams will stick to his plan. It is just now starting to show some results - growth of young players. Adams will keep his powder dry for another year or two until the Sabres are a perinial playoff team. Then at some point he will make a trade deadline deal that he feels has a reasonably good chance to get the Sabres their long saught after cusp and maybe even a cup. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 The best thing the Sabres can do in a trade is to acquire a player that is a PP specialist. Look at Tampa, not really that much better than us at 5x5 but that PP they have has carried them. Sabres traded to get better at PK, they need to do the same with the PP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmel Corn Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 I only expect a roster subtraction or two, but no additions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 I was in the process of typing out a post about how disheartening it would be to be a seller again this year at the deadline. Then I stopped and deleted it all because, can it get more disheartening than it already is/has been? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetlou Posted January 24 Author Report Share Posted January 24 Girgs for a 5th VO for 3rd with 50% retention EJ for a 4th with 50% retention Any other big moves will be in off season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldseatsaud Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 Adams for Craig Rivet lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPuckYourself Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 On 1/21/2024 at 2:15 AM, GASabresIUFAN said: The Sabres went 3-3 on the homestand beating only bad teams and losing to the 3 decent teams they played. This season is basically done and it's time to start thinking about next year. So what to do? If I'm KA, my first move is trading Jokiharju for a team looking for D help. The Sabres have 5 D under contract for next season. The team is locked to Dahlin, Power, and Samuelsson. Clifton has come on of late and has another 2 years on his deal. Rookie Ryan Johnson has outplayed Joki which has led Joki to be a healthy scratch. Last year KA inexplicably held on to or brought back Bryson, VO, and Jost who were all healthy scratches last season. It's time to not make the same mistake again. Time to trade Joki while playoff teams are desperate for D help and get as big a return as possible. This move solidifies Johnson's spot in the lineup and gives the team a better chance of winning. Along the same vein, I'd trade Krebs as well. What has he done to earn an extension? He's still young and is an RFA. Someone will take a shot at him. Given our forward depth in the system, time to clear some dead weight. Jost or a contract received in the trade for Joki or Krebs can fill in as the 4th C. I'm also interested in giving Greenway an extended look as the 4th C for next season. If we have to take a contract back in these deals so be it. We have the cap space and that will up the return. The next move is to trade Girgensons. Might as well play Robinson every night to see if he is worth re-signing. He is also faster than the other depth players and unlike most Sabres he is willing to crash the net. The other move is trading VO. Teams in the playoff race want depth scoring and he needs a fresh start elsewhere. If we have to eat some cap and/or take back a contract again so be it. I'm holding onto EJ and KO unless they ask to be traded. This is a bit of a change in opinion, but I still want to field a decent team. That said, I'm not re-signing either play for next season. I'm also hopeful that KA might find a way to land a top 4 D to partner with Dahlin or Power to get a head start on next season. I'm also hopeful that KA is showcasing Comrie for a trade, but if not, I'm still willing to let Comrie back up UPL for the remainder of the season to allow Levi to be the starter for the Amerks and hopefully get playoff starts. Here is how the post-trade deadline might look Forwards Skinner TNT Tuch Benson Mitts Quinn JJP Cozens (Greenway, Kulich, Rosen, or a new player) Robinson Greenway (Jost?/New player?) KO Defense Dahlin Ryan Johnson (new player?) Power Clifton (or RJ) Mule Eric Johnson Goalies UPL Comrie Iagree those players you mention should get moved but they would garner next to nothing. If you and I know that Jokiharju is a healthy scratch then you can bet any team in the league would also know this to before aquiring him. I'm fine trading them but your probably getting a bunch of 7th round picks back. Middlestadt is our only piece we have to get a top 4 D from our roster (That we're probably willoing to part with) but like others have stated I doubt we make any significant move. This team is a dumpster fire unfortunately and we can't even make legit moves to help because none of them know how to play hockey anymore apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 What about the team? What if they moved? Which sounds better? The Quebec Sabres or the Utah Sabres? Would they keep the name? There's alot to think about here. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 8 hours ago, GoPuckYourself said: Iagree those players you mention should get moved but they would garner next to nothing. It’s not about what assets we receive it about clearing the dead wood from the roster and opening up roster spots for better players assuming KA can figure out what an actual good player looks like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 8 hours ago, sweetlou said: Girgs for a 5th VO for 3rd with 50% retention EJ for a 4th with 50% retention Any other big moves will be in off season This is amusing to me that you still think VO would command the most interest on a deadline deal. The only way I see VO being moved is if a team like San Jose strips away so much of their roster they need bodies to finish out the season. Playoff teams will have absolutely zero interest in VO. EJ will get us the most (unless we deal Okposo) simply because veteran depth D men are in demand at deadlines and he's a cup winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 Victor Olofsson came up as a 3rd tier scorer at 50% at the TDL in my news feed. I would prefer that GMKA gets out ahead of things, but I suspect that he will hold until then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 Welp who ever gets traded likely they win a cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 (edited) On 1/21/2024 at 9:11 AM, Sabres Fan in NS said: No deadline deal is going to make or break this season. I expect minor moves if any. The coming offseason may be another story. Most 'hockey trades' happen in the summer, especially if a team is not likely to play a big role in the UFA transfer window. Adams will stick to his plan. It is just now starting to show some results - growth of young players. Adams will keep his powder dry for another year or two until the Sabres are a perinial playoff team. Then at some point he will make a trade deadline deal that he feels has a reasonably good chance to get the Sabres their long saught after cusp and maybe even a cup. Adams has to stick to his plan. Free agents of any real impact won't choose to come here. Trades would be limited to players without NMC or Limited trade clauses as they more than likely would nix a trade to Buffalo. So as much as we want to bash our GM we need to realize that in the real world he's operating with his hands tied to a significant extent in my opinion. Now it can be argued how we got in the position we're in but it won't change that position. Edited January 26 by Radar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 Elliott Friedman says it makes alot of sense to him, alot of sense, that teams are interested in Erik Johnson. He said it not me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 Adams won't do anything of substance Maybe Erik Johnson for a 7th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 Send Kyle to a cup contender this is likely his last ride 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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