Crusader1969 Posted November 5, 2023 Report Share Posted November 5, 2023 (edited) 6’4. 215lbs 26 year old with decent contract. has had back to back 20 goal + seasons, kills penalties , fights Would have to overpay to get him but he is exactly what this team needs Edited November 5, 2023 by Crusader1969 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoot da Puck Posted November 5, 2023 Report Share Posted November 5, 2023 Can he Shoot da Puck ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted November 5, 2023 Report Share Posted November 5, 2023 Why would we trade for forwards? Seriously. We need goaltending and we need accountability. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted November 5, 2023 Report Share Posted November 5, 2023 26 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said: 6’4. 215lbs 26 year old with decent contract. has had back to back 20 goal + seasons, kills penalties , fights Would have to overpay to get him but he is exactly what this team needs We currently have one of the better PKs in the league. What is the need for another forward when our system is stacked with forwards. The fighting issue makes no sense to me. Playing hard and tough has little to do with fighting. That's what we need more! For those who are enamored with fighting I recommend that you attend MMA events. Cozens got involved in a fight just to prove whatever he was trying to prove. He's fortunate that he didn't get a lingering concussion that would have kept him out for the rest of the season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted November 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2023 33 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Why would we trade for forwards? Seriously. We need goaltending and we need accountability. they just played last night with 11 forwards and one of them was Olofsson they had to play 2 lines for the last 10 mins of the game that’s a team that needs forwards 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad1 Posted November 5, 2023 Report Share Posted November 5, 2023 33 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Why would we trade for forwards? Seriously. We need goaltending and we need accountability. Because he would be a better replacement for Olofsson than a rookie, while the team is supposedly all-in for a playoff run. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted November 5, 2023 Report Share Posted November 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Crusader1969 said: they just played last night with 11 forwards and one of them was Olofsson they had to play 2 lines for the last 10 mins of the game that’s a team that needs forwards There is nothing unusual that coaches shortened their bench at the end of a game. It happens all the time. It's a routine practice that all coaches employ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted November 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2023 18 minutes ago, JohnC said: We currently have one of the better PKs in the league. What is the need for another forward when our system is stacked with forwards. The fighting issue makes no sense to me. Playing hard and tough has little to do with fighting. That's what we need more! For those who are enamored with fighting I recommend that you attend MMA events. Cozens got involved in a fight just to prove whatever he was trying to prove. He's fortunate that he didn't get a lingering concussion that would have kept him out for the rest of the season. You can tell me they are stacked at forward right now when they don’t have room for Olofsson in the line up If you want to start talking about next year , it’s almost 100% that Okposo and possibly even Girgs isn’t back. Who’s replacing their size and PK abilities?? yes Crouse will fight but he’s scored over 40 goals in the last 2 seasons and those wanting to trade for a goalie, please provide one name that would be available that’s for sure an upgrade to what they have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted November 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, JohnC said: There is nothing unusual that coaches shortened their bench at the end of a game. It happens all the time. It's a routine practice that all coaches employ. Wouldn’t it be good if they could at least have a 3rd line that they could trust last in a hockey game ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 11 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said: Wouldn’t it be good if they could at least have a 3rd line that they could trust last in a hockey game ? As I said before, shortening your bench is a standard approach that all teams use at the end of close games. Why do you think that some of our best players play on the PK that is now one of the better PK units in the league? Coaches get paid to adjust to the circumstances of the game. Shortening the bench at the end of tight game is a tactic that every team employs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 IMO… If anything…. Focus on goaltending. Nothing else. Nothing. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 Arizona won't move him. He is part of the culture there for the kids and is important for them for all the reasons you mentioned wanting to trade for him. Would be a great get though 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 It’s not goaltending as much as a consistent commitment to a defensive system that doesn’t leave them out to dry. Play consistently better in the defensive zone and the goaltending is capable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmel Corn Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Crusader1969 said: 6’4. 215lbs 26 year old with decent contract. has had back to back 20 goal + seasons, kills penalties , fights Would have to overpay to get him but he is exactly what this team needs Yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PerreaultForever Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 I like Crouse as a player quite a bit but the Coyotes aren't doing that bad so are they actually looking to unload people at this point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 6 hours ago, Crusader1969 said: they just played last night with 11 forwards and one of them was Olofsson they had to play 2 lines for the last 10 mins of the game that’s a team that needs forwards The team has prospect depth and skill at the top. But it lacks physicality and NHL level depth down the roster. We should be open to upgrading the forwards, defense, and goaltender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPuckYourself Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 6 hours ago, Crusader1969 said: they just played last night with 11 forwards and one of them was Olofsson they had to play 2 lines for the last 10 mins of the game that’s a team that needs forwards Bring up Kulich or Savoie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Why would we trade for forwards? Seriously. We need goaltending and we need accountability. The right forward would help. Not sure who this guy is but we have at least 5 forward slots to improve upon. Accountability has to come from everyone. You don’t trade for it. Edited November 6, 2023 by Pimlach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, JohnC said: As I said before, shortening your bench is a standard approach that all teams use at the end of close games. Why do you think that some of our best players play on the PK that is now one of the better PK units in the league? Coaches get paid to adjust to the circumstances of the game. Shortening the bench at the end of tight game is a tactic that every team employs. Except the Stanley Cup Champions, they ran 4 lines religiously and they still do. Shortening the bench is a sign of lack of depth and lack of trust. It can work at times, but you don’t live by it. Edited November 6, 2023 by Pimlach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Pimlach said: Except the Stanley Cup Champions, they ran 4 lines religiously and they still do. Shortening the bench is a sign of lack of depth and lack of trust. It can work at times, but you don’t live by it. Vegas has a fuller (more talent) team than Buffalo does. That's why they are the SC Champions. The coach has to make decisions based on the talent he has. He's not going to rely on a strategy that is more suitable for another team than on his team. The unvarnished reality is that Vegas is a Cup contending team while we are a playoff contending team. From a roster standpoint, there is a big difference in talent and most notably, experience. Your comment that shortening the bench is a sign of lack of depth and trust. That's true; and that's exactly my point. That's the reason why most coaches shorten their benches at the end of the game when the circumstances dictate it. It is done to give the team the best chance to win. Edited November 6, 2023 by JohnC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 14 hours ago, Shoot da Puck said: Can he Shoot da Puck ? Can he Stop da Puck ?? That's a better question. No offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 Good hockey name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 I'm with you on this one @Crusader1969 I've suggested this for a couple of years for all the reasons you stated above. I think it's a little too late now for the reasons listed below the op. He'd be a perfect fit for what the Sabres need though imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 No immediate help whatsoever but Ethan Miedema plays for the same junior team Crouse was with. He has similar size and stats to Crouse. If he pans out he could be a replacement for Greenway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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