GASabresIUFAN Posted August 19, 2023 Report Share Posted August 19, 2023 17 hours ago, steveoath said: XBuffalo did a ranking of the top 25 sabres prospects They have Filip Cedarqvist listed twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 19, 2023 Report Share Posted August 19, 2023 10 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: They have Filip Cedarqvist listed twice. Because he’s that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoath Posted August 19, 2023 Report Share Posted August 19, 2023 10 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: They have Filip Cedarqvist listed twice. Yeah, they address that in the ‘cast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted August 19, 2023 Report Share Posted August 19, 2023 17 hours ago, steveoath said: XBuffalo did a ranking of the top 25 sabres prospects Zach Benson is better than Jiri Kulich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoath Posted August 19, 2023 Report Share Posted August 19, 2023 3 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Zach Benson is better than Jiri Kulich. I agree in principle. But an argument can be made that Kulich performing against pros elevates his status as Benson is still against juniors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted August 21, 2023 Report Share Posted August 21, 2023 https://theathletic.com/4778405/2023/08/21/nhl-pipeline-rankings-2023-prospects/ The Athletics’ Pronman has begun his pipeline rankings. The list has 25-32 so far comprised of perennial playoff teams and the NYI. 25. Colorado Avalanche 26. Vegas Golden Knights 27. Toronto Maple Leafs 28. Edmonton Oilers 29. Pittsburgh Penguins 30. New York Islanders 31. Tampa Bay Lightning 32. Boston Bruins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 21, 2023 Report Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: https://theathletic.com/4778405/2023/08/21/nhl-pipeline-rankings-2023-prospects/ The Athletics’ Pronman has begun his pipeline rankings. The list has 25-32 so far comprised of perennial playoff teams and the NYI. 25. Colorado Avalanche 26. Vegas Golden Knights 27. Toronto Maple Leafs 28. Edmonton Oilers 29. Pittsburgh Penguins 30. New York Islanders 31. Tampa Bay Lightning 32. Boston Bruins It’s so sad that the Bruins, Lightning, and Leafs rank so low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted August 21, 2023 Report Share Posted August 21, 2023 The Islanders are going to get bad and stay bad for awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted August 21, 2023 Report Share Posted August 21, 2023 lmao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted August 21, 2023 Report Share Posted August 21, 2023 5 hours ago, K-9 said: It’s so sad that the Bruins, Lightning, and Leafs rank so low. I friggin tragedy if you ask me. 4 hours ago, LGR4GM said: The Islanders are going to get bad and stay bad for awhile. To bad the Rags don't follow suit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 Pronman’s updates on team’s pipelines. https://theathletic.com/4778405/2023/08/22/nhl-pipeline-rankings-2023-prospects/ Quote 9. Seattle Kraken 10. Minnesota Wild 11. Philadelphia Flyers 12. Arizona Coyotes 13. San Jose Sharks 14. Carolina Hurricanes 15. New York Rangers 16. Nashville Predators 17. Dallas Stars 18. St. Louis Blues 19. Winnipeg Jets 20. Los Angeles Kings 21. Calgary Flames 22. Washington Capitals 23. Florida Panthers 24. Vancouver Canucks 25. Colorado Avalanche 26. Vegas Golden Knights 27. Toronto Maple Leafs 28. Edmonton Oilers 29. Pittsburgh Penguins 30. New York Islanders 31. Tampa Bay Lightning 32. Boston Bruins The Atlantic is getting deeper by the day. The 4 playoff teams have nearly barren pipelines ranking 23-32, while Mon, Buf, Ott and Det all rank in the top 8. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 https://theathletic.com/4794167/2023/08/24/buffalo-sabres-nhl-prospect-pipeline-rankings/ Buffalo 3rd on Pronman’s list behind Anaheim and Chicago. Montreal, Ottawa and Det 6-8 respectively. As this is a list of all players 22 and under, Cozens is 1 and Power 2. Quinn 3, Benson 4, JJP 5, Kulich 6, Östlund 7, Savoie 8, Krebs 9, and Wahlberg 10. Surprises besides Wahlberg at 10. On the negative, Levi at 12, Rosen 15, Johnson 17, Poltapov at 19 and Novikov in others. Positive surprises were Strbak at 11, Nadeau 13 and McCarthy 14. In Pronman’s defense on some of these rankings he is looking at where he thinks they’ll fit in the NHL at their peak. Personally I find it hard to agree that McCarthy is more likely to be a solid NHLer than Novikov. I also think Johnson has as good if not better of a future as Strbak but I’m pleased with his positive opinion of Max. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustOneParade Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 Ironic that the Sabres' 12th best prospect, per Pronman, may be the player - not just prospect - most important to the team's success this coming season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, JustOneParade said: Ironic that the Sabres' 12th best prospect, per Pronman, may be the player - not just prospect - most important to the team's success this coming season. Which makes the rankings a little suspect. Also no way Krebs, who I like, has more upside potential than Levi. I think Corey size bias is showing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 Corey def has a major size bias. Levi at 12 is hilarious. But never count your chickens before the hatch and all that. Novikov is a big old mystery box. Didn't turn 20 until July and played in a league that limits young guys ice time and offense. Should be fun. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 2 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Corey def has a major size bias. Levi at 12 is hilarious. But never count your chickens before the hatch and all that. Novikov is a big old mystery box. Didn't turn 20 until July and played in a league that limits young guys ice time and offense. Should be fun. I’m as intrigued by Novikov as I’ve been by any Sabres prospect in recent memory. I just have a feeling we are gonna be seeing him in the show much sooner than later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, K-9 said: I’m as intrigued by Novikov as I’ve been by any Sabres prospect in recent memory. I just have a feeling we are gonna be seeing in the show much sooner than later. If you add Ryan Johnson to the defensive prospect pool with Novikov you can see the unit filling out in the not-too-distant future. I wouldn't be surprised if Ryan Johnson ends up playing in Buffalo sometime this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 10 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: https://theathletic.com/4794167/2023/08/24/buffalo-sabres-nhl-prospect-pipeline-rankings/ Buffalo 3rd on Pronman’s list behind Anaheim and Chicago. Montreal, Ottawa and Det 6-8 respectively. As this is a list of all players 22 and under, Cozens is 1 and Power 2. Quinn 3, Benson 4, JJP 5, Kulich 6, Östlund 7, Savoie 8, Krebs 9, and Wahlberg 10. Surprises besides Wahlberg at 10. On the negative, Levi at 12, Rosen 15, Johnson 17, Poltapov at 19 and Novikov in others. Positive surprises were Strbak at 11, Nadeau 13 and McCarthy 14. In Pronman’s defense on some of these rankings he is looking at where he thinks they’ll fit in the NHL at their peak. Personally I find it hard to agree that McCarthy is more likely to be a solid NHLer than Novikov. I also think Johnson has as good if not better of a future as Strbak but I’m pleased with his positive opinion of Max. I take our prospect base easily over both Anaheim and Chicago 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 8 hours ago, Flashsabre said: I take our prospect base easily over both Anaheim and Chicago Anaheim you could probably convince me... but if Chicago showed up tomorrow and offered everyone listed here for our everyone listed here, I'd laugh and say no chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Anaheim you could probably convince me... but if Chicago showed up tomorrow and offered everyone listed here for our everyone listed here, I'd laugh and say no chance. Conor Bedard. We lack a "franchise forward" in the pipeline. I agree our pipeline is deeper, but that was probably Pronman's deciding factor. Edited August 25, 2023 by GASabresIUFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Conor Bedard. We lack a "franchise forward" in the pipeline. I agree our pipeline is deeper, but that was probably Pronman's deciding factor. I understand why he did it but Pronman is just not great, interesting but his criteria is wishy washy at best. Would I rather have Connor Bedard or Cozens, Power, Quinn, Peterka, and Benson... I would take the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LGR4GM Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 A Sabre is on this list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted August 26, 2023 Report Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: A Sabre is on this list. Pretty good ranking. I liked the pick and can’t wait to see him develop. He was drafted 12th and yet is rated 6th out of all NHL prospects by EP Rinkside. Previous drafts included. ”no passing lane is too small” “endless motor” ”best defensive stick in his draft” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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