K-9 Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 I need to know if the Sabres insisted on Quinn having achilles fusion surgery or if they allowed him to have his preferred artificial achilles replacement procedure performed instead. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 ESPN says it's a ruptured achilles: https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/37933899/reports-sabres-forward-jack-quinn-suffers-ruptured-achilles That stinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 Now that I think of it they probably just keep Olofsson for now and do something like: Skinner - Thompson - Tuch Mittelstadt - Cozens - Peterka Olofsson - Krebs - Greenway Girgensons - Jost - Okposo Top 6 shouldn’t miss a beat, biggest thing is L3 potentially takes a big defensive step backwards with VO, so still counting a lot on Greenway to elevate. Would think they definitely add a depth guy if Olofsson moves and even in the scenario above, they may (probably should) add someone so it’s not a rookie being next up, presumably the addition that would have been on the table anyways in the original scenario where we theoretically planned to move VO. - - - The only thing I worry about really is the LT prognosis for Quinn. Hopefully it’s something you get a 100% recovery from in time 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 It's probably going to take a full year to recover fully ugh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalonill said: It's probably going to take a full year to recover fully ugh. Thus next man up. KA has many internal candidates to keep the team moving forward. He can keep VO. He can expand the roles of Krebs and Mitts. He can give Kulich, Rousek, Savoie or Benson a shot. He can sign a FA to assume the Krebs 4C role if he elevates Krebs. Plenty of options and plenty of cap room to make decisions with. I don't think this injury will derail the offense much and long-term I don't think it will derail Quinn's career. We have seen this before. Tage Thompson went through something similar and look where he is today. Yes, it was shoulder surgery, but the recovery time is similar and the for someone with Tage's shot, a major shoulder injury could have easily derailed his career. https://www.nhl.com/sabres/news/buffalo-sabres-tage-thompson-injury-update/c-313918708 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhenWillItEnd66 Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 So this is not great news, but it is not devastation either. I believe we have more then enough scoring depth to cover this until he is 100% healthy. Savoie maybe?? They can use his 9 game tryout. We have many options. Just want him back 100% and not rushing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 Does his contract year slide ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 I think this hurts more than people realize. The reason this team isn't going big game shopping is because it is counting on internal improvement. Quinn is second only to Power in terms of being able to provide that. it also means we may not get help from an Olofsson return because he is the most likely person to fill the hole, and he is probably not going to fix his flaws if he gets those minutes. If we do trade Vic, Kulich and/or Savoie are probably not going to be able provide even what Quinn providedlast year. It's a blow. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, dudacek said: I think this hurts more than people realize. The reason this team isn't going big game shopping is because it is counting on internal improvement. Quinn is second only to Power in terms of being able to provide that. it also means we may not get help from an Olofsson return because he is the most likely person to fill the hole, and he is probably not going to fix his flaws if he gets those minutes. If we do trade Vic, Kulich and/or Savoie are probably not going to be able provide even what Quinn providedlast year. It's a blow. I agree with all of this, although I think JJP is close to Quinn in terms of upside. Still it would be much better to have both of them. As I said upthread, best case is a full recovery and Quinn becoming a contributor before the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabresparaavida Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 24 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Does his contract year slide ? No, he played a full season in the NHL last year, contracts don’t slide after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 19 minutes ago, sabresparaavida said: No, he played a full season in the NHL last year, contracts don’t slide after that. Damn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Does his contract year slide ? For kids playing in NA only 18 & 19 year olds can have their ELC slide a year (or 2). Quinn is too old for that to happen. Edited June 30, 2023 by Taro T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 2 hours ago, dudacek said: I think this hurts more than people realize. The reason this team isn't going big game shopping is because it is counting on internal improvement. Quinn is second only to Power in terms of being able to provide that. it also means we may not get help from an Olofsson return because he is the most likely person to fill the hole, and he is probably not going to fix his flaws if he gets those minutes. If we do trade Vic, Kulich and/or Savoie are probably not going to be able provide even what Quinn providedlast year. It's a blow. I think everyone realizes how much this sucks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 22 hours ago, Night Train said: Some are always promoting one of the young guys. Now a spot is open. Camp may be big for one of them to grab a spot. 2 of them now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kas23 Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 3 hours ago, dudacek said: I think this hurts more than people realize. The reason this team isn't going big game shopping is because it is counting on internal improvement. Quinn is second only to Power in terms of being able to provide that. it also means we may not get help from an Olofsson return because he is the most likely person to fill the hole, and he is probably not going to fix his flaws if he gets those minutes. If we do trade Vic, Kulich and/or Savoie are probably not going to be able provide even what Quinn providedlast year. It's a blow. It’s a blow, but I don’t think it is in the way you present it. We can still improve by Cozens improving, JJP improving, and Mitts giving us a full 82 games. Krebs can improve as well. Remember, we were one of the highest scoring teams in the NHL last season and it wasn’t because Quinn put up 30-40 goals. He only potted 14. If we can tread water with what we have till January, while giving up less goals (the most important thing), I think we’ll be fine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drag0nDan Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 15 hours ago, Quint said: Wondering about Quinn's achilles injury. What happened? How was it injured? Not sure it was mentioned earlier in this thread but was it severed by a skate? Its rarely anything of note like a lifting injury. It's usually something stupid like a box jump where you land and it just snaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctaeth Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 1 minute ago, kas23 said: It’s a blow, but I don’t think it is in the way you present it. We can still improve by Cozens improving, JJP improving, and Mitts giving us a full 82 games. Krebs can improve as well. Remember, we were one of the highest scoring teams in the NHL last season and it wasn’t because Quinn put up 30-40 goals. He only potted 14. If we can tread water with what we have till January, while giving up less goals (the most important thing), I think we’ll be fine. I was going to type out something similar. Kudos. Plenty of other young guys all growing into their body and (hopefully) becoming more defensively responsible. Add to that (hopefully) improved goaltending all year from a more nhl adjusted Levi, I think they will be fine. It is a huge blow like dudacek points out, but they still ought to be a playoff team from just internal improvement I am wondering if we see murray/weissbach get a shot on the sabres because of this injury. Wouldn't be surprised. Murray looked like he belonged when he played up 2 years ago for those 20ish games. I was surprised when he eventually got sent back down. And weissbach has always kind of jumped off the screen to me whenever i see him play. Supposedly he has added a little bit of rat to his game, could be interesting to see what he could do. They are rfas I believe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kas23 Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 15 hours ago, Quint said: Wondering about Quinn's achilles injury. What happened? How was it injured? Not sure it was mentioned earlier in this thread but was it severed by a skate? Heard it was on gym mats at One Bills Drive. Too soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quint Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 30 minutes ago, kas23 said: Too soon? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Drag0nDan said: Its rarely anything of note like a lifting injury. It's usually something stupid like a box jump where you land and it just snaps. Per KA in this morning’s Harrington piece in the BN: Quote Adams said Quinn was “sprinting and working on explosiveness, which is what we want him to be doing.” Edited June 30, 2023 by K-9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted July 1, 2023 Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 Isn't the effect of this injury the same as when Pominville's leg was sliced by a skate? Sabres’ Jason Pominville understands long recovery Erik Karlsson faces - Buffalo Hockey Beat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted July 1, 2023 Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 6 hours ago, kas23 said: Heard it was on gym mats at One Bills Drive. Too soon? No because 1% of the board knows what you are talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatorman0519 Posted July 1, 2023 Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 12 hours ago, Buffalonill said: It's probably going to take a full year to recover fully ugh. Yeah you can write off this season. I ruptured mine when I was 41. Most brutal injury of my life. Never got my full strength and mobility back. Took a year and a half to get back to somewhat normal. But he is much younger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanSlinky39 Posted July 1, 2023 Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 12 hours ago, Thorny said: Now that I think of it they probably just keep Olofsson for now and do something like: Skinner - Thompson - Tuch Mittelstadt - Cozens - Peterka Olofsson - Krebs - Greenway Girgensons - Jost - Okposo Top 6 shouldn’t miss a beat, biggest thing is L3 potentially takes a big defensive step backwards with VO, so still counting a lot on Greenway to elevate. Would think they definitely add a depth guy if Olofsson moves and even in the scenario above, they may (probably should) add someone so it’s not a rookie being next up, presumably the addition that would have been on the table anyways in the original scenario where we theoretically planned to move VO. - - - The only thing I worry about really is the LT prognosis for Quinn. Hopefully it’s something you get a 100% recovery from in time VO needs to go. He's fine when he goes on a heater, but he's a dead roster spot when he inevitably disappears for two months. If he ain't scoring goals, he's as useless as ice skates on a basketball court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted July 1, 2023 Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 16 minutes ago, Gatorman0519 said: Yeah you can write off this season. I ruptured mine when I was 41. Most brutal injury of my life. Never got my full strength and mobility back. Took a year and a half to get back to somewhat normal. But he is much younger. Most important to get him healthy they can't rush him him and just request the year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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