phil_soisson Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 9 hours ago, Taro T said: You mean like Thompson, Tuch, Cozens, Dahlin, Samuelsson, Power, etc.? Not to be disputatious, but when have any of the players you list won NHL playoff hockey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetlou Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 10 hours ago, nfreeman said: 98 pts in 60 games -- 3rd in the WHL. 17 pts in 15 playoff games. 5'9", 170 lbs. Left winger from BC. I bet he's good. Skinner 2.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogelthorpe Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 9 hours ago, Huckleberry said: Might be Skinners replacement down the line as mentioned. Skinner - Thompson - Tuch Mittelstadt - Cozens - Quinn Benson- Östlund - Savoie Rousek - Krebs - Kulich Rosen/weissbach fall out of this for me, but never know what will happen 2 years down the line. Where is JJP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) 32 minutes ago, sweetlou said: Skinner 2.0 Maybe in demeanour but his best offensive asset is apparently his playmaking by quite a bit, and while vastly improved that isn’t really Skinner’s game Edited June 29, 2023 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 After having a night to sleep on it I thought his best comparison might be: Patrice Bergeron. Different positions but elite 200 foot players that are just as good defensively as they are offensively. Super intelligent and dogged determination. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Days Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 Benson seems to be a much better defensive player than Skinner and Briere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kr632 Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 53 minutes ago, phil_soisson said: Not to be disputatious, but when have any of the players you list won NHL playoff hockey? Alex Tuch with Vegas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 1 hour ago, phil_soisson said: Not to be disputatious, but when have any of the players you list won NHL playoff hockey? If that's a word, I love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 1 hour ago, phil_soisson said: Not to be disputatious, but when have any of the players you list won NHL playoff hockey? THE BUFFALO SABRES WILL BE FINE at playoff hockey. When the challenge comes, most rise to the occasion. Look at some of the recent Sabres departures as proof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Lee Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: If that's a word, I love it. I looked it up. It’s a word. Awesome to learn a new and cool word today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Youth Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 Wonder who Adams was trying to move up for - if it was Michkov, Adams’ board was the same as mine. Benson is an amazing consolation prize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 5 hours ago, dudacek said: I acknowledge the truth in what you are saying here: we don’t seem to have many Mike Griers or Marcus Folignos in the pipeline and guys like that are needed. However, it would be a mistake to think this means the guys we are collecting can’t battle or play defence. Benson, for example, gets in the dirty areas, and is considered one of the top defensive players in the Western Hockey League. By and large, the high pick forward we have taken are diligent, smart and brave and should become as capable of playing playoff hockey as the Yanni Gourdes and Ondrej Palats. Besides, guys like Foligno and Grier aren’t typically getting taken in the 1st round. You hope the Kozaks and Novikovs can provide some of that. I've always valued the size of the fight in the dog more than the size of the dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, Cascade Youth said: Wonder who Adams was trying to move up for - if it was Michkov, Adams’ board was the same as mine. Benson is an amazing consolation prize. Maybe it was for Benson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, Cascade Youth said: Wonder who Adams was trying to move up for - if it was Michkov, Adams’ board was the same as mine. Benson is an amazing consolation prize. Early it was Michkov. In his presser he said they kept trying to move back into the first round after pick 20 but no one would trade. Have to think they wanted Musty at that point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 I’m now completely distracted by the fact that the new prospect is a carny. 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhenWillItEnd66 Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 Love this pick! He was a steal at 13!!! Ok, smallish, but watch his highlight reels. This kid is smart as hell and gets a ton of props from all the damn scouts! Passing sense second to only McJesus? Yes Please!!!! Plays solid defense....uhhh hell yea!!! Hockey sense through the roof???? WTH, can i have another please!! Ok we have a full cabinet of talent in the forward Dept..... time to address some defense and a young minder!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 18 minutes ago, Scottysabres said: Maybe it was for Benson? That would be funny if that's who they really wanted and he dropped into their lap without expending any trade capital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, Stormcloudmember66 said: Love this pick! He was a steal at 13!!! Ok, smallish, but watch his highlight reels. This kid is smart as hell and gets a ton of props from all the damn scouts! Passing sense second to only McJesus? Yes Please!!!! Plays solid defense....uhhh hell yea!!! Hockey sense through the roof???? WTH, can i have another please!! Ok we have a full cabinet of talent in the forward Dept..... time to address some defense and a young minder!!! Why is it a steal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhenWillItEnd66 Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 1 minute ago, nucci said: Why is it a steal? Because most mocks had him ranked between 5-7, we got him at 13. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, nucci said: Why is it a steal? Because most people had him rated higher than 13. The only reason he dropped was size. Some list him at 5'-9", others at 5'-10". I tend to think the 5'-9" figure is out of date and he's grown a bit. If he squeaks out another inch (he just turned 18 last month; it could happen) I think the "small" tag could disappear. Edited June 29, 2023 by Doohickie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 1 hour ago, phil_soisson said: Not to be disputatious, but when have any of the players you list won NHL playoff hockey? Are you suggesting that just because a good player is on a less than fully successful team, that the player's performance is diminished? There are a lot of reasons why teams are not successful that have little to do with how an individual performs. A better way of framing this issue is: does the play of a particular player make a team better than if he weren't on the team? With respect to the players you listed the answer is yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, Doohickie said: Because most people had him rated higher than 13. The only reason he dropped was size. Some list him at 5'-9", others at 5'-10". I tend to think the 5'-9" figure is out of date and he's grown a bit. If he squeaks out another inch (he just turned 18 last month; it could happen) I think the "small" tag could disappear. He measured 5’9.75” 170 lbs at the draft combine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 Gotta say -- I'm pretty glad they didn't trade #13 for Helle, Hart or Pesce. I'm curious whether those who were advocating to do so still feel that way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrenchConnection44 Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 Talent is talent. He’s a two-way player with skill and drive. Plays pp and pk. He will need to add 15 lbs of good weight to his frame but that shouldn’t be a problem and it will enhance his speed. He will be a guy who will be pesky, play defense, and put points on the board. he’s not 6’1, but that’s been overrated to some degree; otherwise, What’s not to like? He instantly vaulted into the top scorer position among our prospects. Granted, WHL. Still … As to a logjam at forward on the NHL roster? In a year or two we have 4-5 forwards who will be departing for various reasons (age; free agency; trades). So I think the spaces will open up for the likes of him, Savoie, Kulich, et al. I am still in the trusting Adams mode. Would like to see us sign a big free agent on D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 20 minutes ago, Curt said: He measured 5’9.75” 170 lbs at the draft combine. So the Sabres dev camp roster will list him at 5-9 162 and then NHL.com will list him at 5-10 180 for the start of training camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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