LGR4GM Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 IT'S HAPPENING! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 Get a first and move it for a D man 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Buffalonill said: Get a first and move it for a D man I believe we can get a late 1st. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 There goes my weekend F5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 I wouldn't expect anything to happen until closer to the draft but you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 14 minutes ago, Scottysabres said: I believe we can get a late 1st. NO NO AND NO. Get a player. 19 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: This was in TBN two days ago but congrats to Dreger I guess? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 Just now, Eleven said: NO NO AND NO. Get a player. I agree. Even a great depth player is very doable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmel Corn Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 16 minutes ago, Scottysabres said: I believe we can get a late 1st. IDK, I don't see a 1st coming back....maybe a 2nd though! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, Carmel Corn said: IDK, I don't see a 1st coming back....maybe a 2nd though! Agree. Would rather a depth piece but maybe that’s what a 2nd could garner in a further move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 Goal scorers are hard to find, so I could see him fetching a late 1st, but given that the Sabres made him a healthy scratch a few times and the fact that other teams are fully aware of this, a 2nd might be more realistic. The Sabres have plenty of draft picks, so the better bet is to trade him - a player with talent that needs a change of scenery - for a similar player (one with talent that needs a change of scenery) that also happens to be a veteran defenseman. A #4-#6 veteran D-man for a guy who can score 20-30 goals per season and be a fixture on the power play is a fair trade. Not sure if Olofsson is enough to get a veteran goalie in exchange, but it would depend on the goalie. I'm not sure he'll fetch a goalie that's much better than UPL or Comrie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 (edited) I believe it was the Joe and Lance podcast where they pitched the idea of Olofsson to Calgary, who desperately needs a finisher. Tanev was mentioned. Vegas was another team they said might be interested (Martinez) and Winnipeg (Demelo). They were spitballing teams who might need an Olofsson and have what we need, not passing along rumours. They also said a market might be there despite the holes in his game for 3 reasons: Olofsson can kickstart a lot of power plays in a way many players can’t the list of players who score 25 goals for $2.5 million (with retention) is very short his acquisition cost and/or contract commitment is a lot easier to swallow than other scorers on the market like Debrincat and Tarasenko. I think he moves at the draft. Edited June 15, 2023 by dudacek 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 55 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Get a first and move it for a D man 54 minutes ago, Scottysabres said: I believe we can get a late 1st. Unlikely. Probably a 3rd. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 28 minutes ago, msw2112 said: Goal scorers are hard to find, so I could see him fetching a late 1st, but given that the Sabres made him a healthy scratch a few times and the fact that other teams are fully aware of this, a 2nd might be more realistic. The Sabres have plenty of draft picks, so the better bet is to trade him - a player with talent that needs a change of scenery - for a similar player (one with talent that needs a change of scenery) that also happens to be a veteran defenseman. A #4-#6 veteran D-man for a guy who can score 20-30 goals per season and be a fixture on the power play is a fair trade. Not sure if Olofsson is enough to get a veteran goalie in exchange, but it would depend on the goalie. I'm not sure he'll fetch a goalie that's much better than UPL or Comrie. In a vacuum, with only 1 team (or at most 2 teams) interested in Olofsson, yes, his getting benched at the end of the season could work against his value. But teams aren't bidding against the Sabres usage of VO (if that were all they're bidding against, his value would be a 3rd or 4th rounder). Teams are bidding against other teams that want a 25ish goal scorer that fits in well in the room on a reasonable contract for 1 more season. There are more than 2 teams that have a need for that sort of a player. The Sabres should be able to get something legit for VO and if he's a part of a package they should be able to get something actually GOOD for him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Marvin said: Unlikely. Probably a 3rd. I said the same thing about ristolainen but there's always that one dumb GM Edited June 15, 2023 by Buffalonill 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 He really is a big reason why our PP numbers are high despite it looking so bad. He contributes to both of those things 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetlou Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 Olofsson agrees to contract with Avalanche after being traded by Stars (nhl.com) My heart was happy for a second!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 But but but I was told he was useless and there was no interest around the league and that they would have to eat 50% and that would still only net them a late pick if anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-U-F-F-A-L-O Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Scottysabres said: I agree. Even a great depth player is very doable. I don’t care what we get as long as the value is there. A first, a player, a part of a player, makes no difference to me….. but I’ll be disappointed if it’s a 2nd or less…. I think he’s worth at least a 2nd and 3rd…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 1 hour ago, dudacek said: I believe it was the Joe and Lance podcast where they pitched the idea of Olofsson to Calgary, who desperately needs a finisher. Tanev was mentioned. Vegas was another team they said might be interested (Martinez) and Winnipeg (Demelo). They were spitballing teams who might need an Olofsson and have what we need, not passing along rumours. They also said a market might be there despite the holes in his game for 3 reasons: Olofsson can kickstart a lot of power plays in a way many players can’t the list of players who score 25 goals for $2.5 million (with retention) is very short his acquisition cost and/or contract commitment is a lot easier to swallow than other scorers on the market like Debrincat and Tarasenko. I think he moves at the draft. If you get Tanev for Olofsson I wouldn't complain just need some good depth when he gets injured 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Eleven said: NO NO AND NO. Get a player. This was in TBN two days ago but congrats to Dreger I guess? what if you trade Olofsson and get a pick in the mid 20s and draft Simashev and trade away pick 13?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmel Corn Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Crusader1969 said: what if you trade Olofsson and get a pick in the mid 20s and draft Simashev and trade away pick 13?? Sorry, but don't think VO will fetch a 1st rounder, plus Simashev will not last until the 20's IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Taro T said: In a vacuum, with only 1 team (or at most 2 teams) interested in Olofsson, yes, his getting benched at the end of the season could work against his value. But teams aren't bidding against the Sabres usage of VO (if that were all they're bidding against, his value would be a 3rd or 4th rounder). Teams are bidding against other teams that want a 25ish goal scorer that fits in well in the room on a reasonable contract for 1 more season. There are more than 2 teams that have a need for that sort of a player. The Sabres should be able to get something legit for VO and if he's a part of a package they should be able to get something actually GOOD for him. a team trades for VO and puts him on the top PP unit, he scores 25ish by the deadline. His new team can then decide to keep and let him run out his contract or flip at the deadline and get more than they gave up to acquire him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Carmel Corn said: Sorry, but don't think VO will fetch a 1st rounder, plus Simashev will not last until the 20's IMHO. we shall see. There will be a lot of teams hesitant of drafting Russians. He doesn't have good offensive stats and there are a lot of high end forwards this year that teams might be worried to miss out on. If a team views Simashev as a Defensive Dman that could push him down as those are usually found later in the draft like Samuelsson was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 Olofsson and UPL for Hart and a 3rd. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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