sweetlou Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 Is this the new core for the next 5 years that will get Sabres back into the playoffs Forwards- Tuch, Thompson, Krebs, Cozens, Quinn, and Skinner Defense- Dahlin, Joker, Power, and Mule Goalie- UPL, Portillo??, Levi?? wait and see- Peterka on the bubble or moved for younger vets- Mitts and Olofsson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, sweetlou said: Is this the new core for the next 5 years that will get Sabres back into the playoffs Forwards- Tuch, Thompson, Krebs, Cozens, Quinn, and Skinner Defense- Dahlin, Joker, Power, and Mule Goalie- UPL, Portillo??, Levi?? wait and see- Peterka on the bubble or moved for younger vets- Mitts and Olofsson I don’t think we know much of it yet. Forwards- Tuch, Thompson, Cozens, and Skinner for sure. Probably Krebs, Quinn, and Mittelstadt. Maybe Olofsson and Peterka. Defense- Dahlin and Power for sure. Probably Jokiharju and Samuelsson. Maybe Bryson and Johnson. Goalies- uncertain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, sweetlou said: Is this the new core for the next 5 years that will get Sabres back into the playoffs Forwards- Tuch, Thompson, Krebs, Cozens, Quinn, and Skinner Defense- Dahlin, Joker, Power, and Mule Goalie- UPL, Portillo??, Levi?? wait and see- Peterka on the bubble or moved for younger vets- Mitts and Olofsson At least how I see things: Forwards: Tuch, Thompson, Krebs, Cozens, Quinn, Peterka Defense: Dahlin, Power, Samuelsson, Jokiharju Goalie: UPL, Levi. It just depends on performance On the bubble: Mittelstadt, Olofsson, Asplund, Bryson Wait and see: Johnson, Portillo, Biro, You're stuck with: Skinner Edited February 24, 2022 by Rasmus_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 The Sabres don't have a core yet. They are in lets see who developes mode. Of all the players on the roster I would say that only two would not be traded in the normal course of business ... Tuch and Dahlin. Of the players not on the roster I would say the above about two players ... Power and Levi. That's not to say that I expect all the others to be traded, but I would not be surprised if any of the others were traded. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 Honest question … how can any player who hasn’t played one min on an NHL team considered a core player for that NHL team? I guess I consider core players differently. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 No one has fully laid claim to that status. Not one player. Dahlin is on the verge, Tuch and Thompson have shown some signs. Mittelstadt, Luukkonnen and Peterka could be, though I think it's unlikely. Most of Levi, Cozens, Krebs, Quinn, Power and this year's 1st pick need to be or we're *****. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 Don't have a core yet . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 The last time that the Sabres amounted to anything they had Drury and Briere. Both brought in by trade. They were added to young players just coming around ... Roysie, Vansie, Pomsie, Millsie, Campsie, Hanksie and a few savy vets here and there and there you go. Maybe soon (1 more year, I think) the Sabres will see how the kids are doing and will be looking to add the next Drury and Briere? Then again, I am probably just farting into the wind here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustache of God Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 Dan Dunleavvy Rick the Service Dog Sabretooth Conehead Kim Pegula 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mustache of God said: Dan Dunleavvy Rick the Service Dog Sabretooth Conehead Kim Pegula 2 out of 5 is not bad. Actually, it's quite terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, Mustache of God said: Dan Dunleavvy Rick the Service Dog Sabretooth Conehead Kim Pegula 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 Count me as one who thinks we don't have a core yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 Rotten to the core. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 Expect that they do/will have a core, just really hard to say who that is at present as team cores usually consist of 3-4 forwards, 1-2 D & a goalie. The core F's will almost definitely include Tuch, but which other 3 will be those key building blocks that like him we just can't imagine seeing management let end up in another uniform is still in the air. Would expect that to be 3 out of Mittelstadt, Cozens, Krebs, Quinn, Peterka, & their top pick this year. The core D likely will be Dahlin & Power, but if Nemec or Jiricek are the top pick maybe this is a Nashville style core & he fits in there w/ Johnson &/or Samuelsson there as well. The core goalie? Any of Levi, Portillo, or UPL could be THE guy w/ the odds likely in that order. That right now they have ~12 pieces of that 6 player core brings up the old football saying: if you have 2 (or 3) starting QB's, you don't have a starting QB. 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, bunomatic said: Rotten to the core. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyK Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 Why no love for Fritz? He has played as well as anyone on the team in the last few games. Tuch seems to be a soft Sabre all of a sudden, not the Tuch from the first 15 games or so. Fritz and Samuelsson have played well. They could be a great 5th and 6th D-men pairing for the future core. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 It is an evolving thing and I don’t think we can identify the core yet. To me a core 4-5 forwards, 2-3 D and a goalie. My best guess is Dahlin, Power, Quinn, Cozens, Krebs, Levi and Tuch. Some recent “dynasties” have done it differently. In Detroit’s case the goalie was a fluid thing as Vernon, Hasek and Osgood led them at different times. Those teams could win with non elite goaltending. Tampa just lost their entire 3rd line, who were not considered core guys but extremely important in their runs. Their goalie is elite and they probably don’t win without him. Chicago had a core that stayed together for three Cups but had to turn over all the supporting players due to cap issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, JohnnyK said: Why no love for Fritz? He has played as well as anyone on the team in the last few games. Tuch seems to be a soft Sabre all of a sudden, not the Tuch from the first 15 games or so. Fritz and Samuelsson have played well. They could be a great 5th and 6th D-men pairing for the future core. I think of “core” as your key guys and don’t see Fitzgerald ever playing 20-plus minutes a night, or skating in our top 3. Not out of this world to picture Samuelsson leaned on in a leadership and shutdown role down the line though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 Tuch, Cozens, Quinn, Dahlin, and Power are the primary core presently with any of the 3 young goalies filling the goaltending spot. Skinner is a core piece but only in regards to his presence continuing for the foreseeable future. Krebs, Thompson, Mitts, Jokiharju and Samuelsson are the rim of the core. They are highly likely to be part of the Sabres for a while but don’t quite reach the core’s inherent value to the franchise as a whole. Okposo and Girgensons are the shell that help give support and protection to the core and rim. Pysyk this year would also fill this role. While replaced over time the role is always useful and vital for a young core group. Stickers are players like Olofsson, Hinostroza, Fitzgerald and Bryson. Better than JAGs and useful; but not inherently vital on a player to player level. They decorate the shell effectively. Olofsson filled a role as a high level PP asset. Olofsson’s skill at the role is more important than the player’s personal value. If we replace Olofsson with Hoffman, the identity of the team doesn’t drastically change. JAGs are rather self explanatory, they exist to fill space. JAGs can become stickers but don’t necessarily even achieve that level. Asplund has been a Sticker at times but has been a JAG most the year. Bjork’s speed could get him Sticker value but he fails to give much more than existance. Black Holes are JAGs that have gone beyond being mere space eaters and have legitimately become anti-stickers. Will Butcher fills this role very well as he negatively effects the team in practically every facet while gaining nothing in return. Cody Eakin is quite literally hanging by a thread above this category due to his face off skill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 hour ago, JohnnyK said: Why no love for Fritz? He has played as well as anyone on the team in the last few games. Tuch seems to be a soft Sabre all of a sudden, not the Tuch from the first 15 games or so. Fritz and Samuelsson have played well. They could be a great 5th and 6th D-men pairing for the future core. Fritz. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Pimlach said: Fritz. 🤔 Must mean Peterka. 😛 (Yes, we know it was actually Fitz. It was a funny, or at least an attempt at such.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 Eakin, Biro, Miller, Hagg, Dell and Butcher 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 hour ago, pi2000 said: Eakin, Biro, Miller, Hagg, Dell and Butcher … Dracula, Hiney-Stroka, Mork from Bjork, … 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cage Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) isn't "core" typically 5-6 players who become essentially "untouchable" during their prime? I don't think it would be 12+ Edited February 25, 2022 by Cage 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Cage said: isn't "core" typically 5-6 players who become essentially "untouchable" during their prime? I don't think it would be 12+ Yeah, I would thinks it would be 3-4 forwards, 2-3 D, and maybe a goalie. Those would be the key guys who you really commit to, give 5+ year contracts, give NTC/NMC to, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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