Sabres' attendance slipping

[PASabreFan]

I once slapped an Engelbert Humperdinck impersonator across the face. No one tells me I lack zest.

[Indabuff]

[Zamboni]

[Indabuff]

47 minutes ago, #freejame said:

SARS-stock, Toronto, 2003: Justin Timberlake is peppered with piss bottles. No ejections had. 

For real?  Piss bottles?

Piss missile has a better ring to it but either way that's pretty funny.

Edited March 5, 2020 by Indabuff
Though I don't condone that sort of action, grumble, grumble, something, something...

[nfreeman]

20 hours ago, NY2buffalo said:

Nothing heavy about it. If you're rude to a singer at a concert, security removes you. Same rules apply

So you think if a fan attends a hockey game and boos, he should be ejected? 

[freester]

30 minutes ago, NY2buffalo said:

Unpopular opinion, but yes, if specifically directed at a particular player ?

How about if directed at a particularly incompetent GM?

[Scottysabres]

49 minutes ago, NY2buffalo said:

Unpopular opinion, but yes, if specifically directed at a particular player ?

I do have a question for you, off topic for a moment. I don't know at what level you achieved, AHL, NHL, but this is a rare moment for us fans in general to ask direct questions, so I hope you don't mind.

When you as a player join an organization, either via trade or signing or drafted, do you look at the strategies attempting to be implemented by the existing management team? And if so, do you guys talk amongst yourselves about the outcome of those strategies?

If you respond, thank you in advance.

[Radar]

5 hours ago, NY2buffalo said:

1) Your story is interesting. We should encourage others to work hard too like you did. Maybe one day they can make it some level of professional hockey if they work hard. 

2) Not really fare to put all players in one boat. Many have come from less than ideal upbringings. Many had to pick themselves up by the bootstraps. I'm pretty the "players" have done more charity work than this whole form combined. Just look at all the fundraisers. 

3) Believe me, AHL players aren't living in luxury (<60,000 a year). People forget this, and hence why I'm here.

4) Many players go bankrupt at the end of the careers due to all  he pressure and all the taxes/expenses they face/

5) Unlike other professions, players risk their lives when playing.

 

Please spare me this dribble. Army, Navy,Marines,police officers,firefighters,first responders,construction workers,medical personnel. You have professional player risking their lives!!!! 

[Scottysabres]

52 minutes ago, NY2buffalo said:

Not sure where your getting this from. Never alluded to any association with the above. My purpose here is just to bring my ideas to this platform, like any other poster

I get it from your post below. You eluded to being a player by the bolded word you utilized in the statement below.

5 hours ago, NY2buffalo said:

Not on the job, but after. Steve Montador from CTE. We payers face similar blows to the head like people in the military

If I'm mistaken, my humblest of apologies.

[shrader]

You folks are burning the popcorn with all these direct responses.

[Indabuff]

2 hours ago, Scottysabres said:

I do have a question for you, off topic for a moment. I don't know at what level you achieved, AHL, NHL, but this is a rare moment for us fans in general to ask direct questions, so I hope you don't mind.

When you as a player join an organization, either via trade or signing or drafted, do you look at the strategies attempting to be implemented by the existing management team? And if so, do you guys talk amongst yourselves about the outcome of those strategies?

If you respond, thank you in advance.

 

[Scottysabres]

19 minutes ago, NY2buffalo said:

Typo/Autocorrect.

I'm inclined to give you the benefit of the keystroke mistakes for the forum member masses. But, given your subject matter combined with what you would attempt to brush of as a "Typo/Autocorrect", I'm not buying it.

There is always a method to the madness as the ole' saying goes. You point out some industry specific hazards, and are willing to engage conversation even though the popcorn machine is struggling to keep up. I would surmise your either industry connected or one hell of a troller (at least to this forum, which is a Sabres fan base forum who's members are overwhelmingly disgruntled at the current set of circumstances). If it's the former, your more than welcome to your anonymity, if it's the latter you've definitely created entertainment where the current local NHL organization has failed. In either case, my hats off to you for distracting "Us Fans" from the bleakness of what we've had to deal with in this market for more than a number of seasons now.

Edited March 5, 2020 by Scottysabres

[Indabuff]

I'm starting to think this is T-Peg's way of disrupting the possible organization of torches and pitchforks.  Hire some plants to infiltrate the fan base and cause confusion and internal disagreement to take the heat off of the Sabres organization.

[shrader]

1 minute ago, Indabuff said:

I'm starting to think this is T-Peg's way of disrupting the possible organization of torches and pitchforks.  Hire some plants to infiltrate the fan base and cause confusion and internal disagreement to take the heat off of the Sabres organization.

An owner pushing for more payment to players?  You may need to work on that theory a bit.

[Indabuff]

Just now, shrader said:

An owner pushing for more payment to players?  You may need to work on that theory a bit.

If I'm not mistaken the OP initially suggested the fan base pay incentives.   

[Scottysabres]

2 minutes ago, shrader said:

An owner pushing for more payment to players?  You may need to work on that theory a bit.

In all fairness, the initial OP doesn't look to ownership for additional salary. I believe it was a fan base bonus incentive program.

[shrader]

Just now, Scottysabres said:

In all fairness, the initial OP doesn't look to ownership for additional salary. I believe it was a fan base bonus incentive program.

An owner pushing for more money for someone other than the owners?  Again, time to re-think the theory.

[Scottysabres]

2 minutes ago, shrader said:

An owner pushing for more money for someone other than the owners?  Again, time to re-think the theory.

Well, it is a somewhat perplexing subject, fan based payments to players as opposed to from the owner. I won't discount it completely, no matter how small the percentage is that it's the organization. It's entertaining, hell, more than the games recently lol.

With that being said...……….

I'll allow it ?

Edited March 5, 2020 by Scottysabres

[Weave]

Foreign influencer.  Probably Russian.  Or Ukrainian.

[Scottysabres]

26 minutes ago, Weave said:

Foreign influencer.  Probably Russian.  Or Ukrainian.

Or, it could be Cuban, Indonesian, Pakistani, Iranian, British, French, German, American Samoan, Burmese, Chinese, South African,  Simolean, Lybian, Lebanese, Israelis', Palestinian, Latvian, Finnish, Swedish, Panamanian or Nigerian. ?

[ubkev]

22 hours ago, NY2buffalo said:

1) Your story is interesting. We should encourage others to work hard too like you did. Maybe one day they can make it some level of professional hockey if they work hard. 

2) Not really fare to put all players in one boat. Many have come from less than ideal upbringings. Many had to pick themselves up by the bootstraps. I'm pretty the "players" have done more charity work than this whole form combined. Just look at all the fundraisers. 

3) Believe me, AHL players aren't living in luxury (<60,000 a year). People forget this, and hence why I'm here.

4) Many players go bankrupt at the end of the careers due to all  he pressure and all the taxes/expenses they face/

5) Unlike other professions, players risk their lives when playing.

 

This one was buzz word heavy. Definitely not your best effort. Rest up. You'll be better tomorrow.

[LTS]

18 hours ago, NY2buffalo said:

Unpopular opinion, but yes, if specifically directed at a particular player ?

There's a simple phrase in sports.. and in some cases life.  "Don't be bitter, be better."  If the criticism is accurate, then accept reality.  In this case, fans don't like losing. They don't like spending their money in support of hockey players who aren't going to go out there and do everything they can.

Enforcement of this idea would require such a big brother atmosphere that no one would go to a game.  The desired outcome would lead to many people not attending games (because it won't stop at booing) and the system would crumble.  

22 hours ago, NY2buffalo said:

1) Your story is interesting. We should encourage others to work hard too like you did. Maybe one day they can make it some level of professional hockey if they work hard. 

2) Not really fare to put all players in one boat. Many have come from less than ideal upbringings. Many had to pick themselves up by the bootstraps. I'm pretty the "players" have done more charity work than this whole form combined. Just look at all the fundraisers. 

3) Believe me, AHL players aren't living in luxury (<60,000 a year). People forget this, and hence why I'm here.

4) Many players go bankrupt at the end of the careers due to all  he pressure and all the taxes/expenses they face/

5) Unlike other professions, players risk their lives when playing.

 

2 - The players are obligated in many ways to do this charity work.  In many cases, players who start their own charities operate them as a form of tax shelter.

3 - You want a shot at the bigs you gotta pay the price. The minor leagues are minor for a reason. Players get paid a low amount, but they also have a lot of things provided while with the team.  Not every job can pay the big bucks... in any line of business.

4 - People who go bankrupt do so through their own ignorance. This is doubly true if you are making the salaries NHL players make.  The "pressure" is a cop out.  NHL players don't have half the pressure on them as an urban, single parent, making $35k a year with 2 kids.  The taxes?  There are ways around all of that.  Expenses?  You live within your means. If you want to live the rich lifestyle without being rich, you are going to lose.  All copouts.

5 - No, they don't.  Players risk long term physical and mental ailments from a life of being hit and hitting.  No one makes them choose that job and the risks that come with it.  Moreover, those problems aren't reserved for professional athletes. There are plenty of professions that subject the body to constant stress and lead to physical ailments down the road. 

Since you are here to share your opinion you should consider the points being made against you.  They are largely valid.  If you are truly concerned with advancing your opinion you'll need to find a way to overcome the objections.  Time to dig deep and come up with something better.

[PASabreFan]

Don't kid yourselves. Terry himself could be writing these posts. He believes this stuff. He told the Buffalo News a version of this on literally DAY ONE. He went over and talked to the editorial board of the paper and said part of the reason the team had struggled was "in this room" and if they would write more positive stuff, it would help player morale. To which the editor (I think) rightly pointed out the paper is there to observe and comment, not cheerlead.

NY has PSE written all over him.

[SwampD]

3 minutes ago, NY2buffalo said:

For 1, people are still watching the games even though they say the team is out of contention. I think there will never be a shortage of fans.

No evidence for 2

For 3, if you pay the minors, coaches, physicians and management better, you'll get better development, healthier players = better NHL players. Could serve as a model to society, don't you think?

For 4, isn't it possible that the hockey players and management just worked harder to get where they are? Why should they be held accountable? 

For 5, I can't think of a single profession (outside military) that suffers those times of blows.

But is he wrong though? I don't know too much about Mr. Pegula, but he might be on to something. Why don't we try it, and see what happens, instead of yelling at the world? The craziest ideas might work.

Hey Terry. Welcome to the board. You really should have just drilled another well and paid O'Reilly his bonus.

[shrader]

21 minutes ago, SwampD said:

Hey Terry. Welcome to the board. You really should have just drilled another well and paid O'Reilly his bonus.

Someone who pays people to drill is well aware that there are jobs other than pro athlete that are very physically demanding.  I want to ignore most of these posts and just poke fun at an idiot, but that one point above has to be one of the most insulting things I've ever seen.  I was eating the popcorn, but now I'm throwing it.  I guess I'll have to be removed from the thread.