Brawndo Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 I know there is zero possibility of Botterill Trading the Dahlin Pick, but Jeremy White’s Secret Sabres Source mentioned teams are calling about pick anyway and some of the names being mentioned as part of the return are quite eye opening. What return would it take for you to consider trading Dahlin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 I almost started this thread too after listening to WGR. They brought up Auston Matthews for Dahlin. To that I would say sure... if you also include your 1st this year, Nylander and Morgan Rielly. Is that ridiculously high? Absolutely but then Dahlin is freaking unicorn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 McDavid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 I mean... it's possible to get a return for that pick that might put you in solid playoff contention immediately. It's also passing on what is being touted as one of the great defensive prospects in the history of the league. He may not turn into that player but by all accounts it would be unprecedented if he bombed. If Dahlin was saying there's no way he'd play in Buffalo and we had a Lindros situation on our hands then it would make sense. Otherwise, I don't see how you can trade the #1 pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 McDavid Yup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 (edited) He becomes more valuable the better he gets no ? Or is he valuable now because of the hype and the unknown quantity he represents ? I would make the pick and see what you get in 2 or 3 years. No way I trade him at the draft. This kid makes everyone talk about Buffalo ( the team ) in a good way. He'll put us in every conversation going forward. I guess McDavid is the only one if I had to trade him. Edited June 14, 2018 by bunomatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 Ummmm....Dahlin could really hurt our chances for a tank and we might not get a high lottery pick next year. Are you guys sure we should take him? This is untrod territory we are entering here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 He becomes more valuable the better he gets no ? Or is he valuable now because of the hype and the unknown quantity he represents ? I would make the pick and see what you get in 2 or 3 years. No way I trade him at the draft. This kid makes everyone talk about Buffalo ( the team ) in a good way. He'll put us in every conversation going forward. I guess McDavid is the only one if I had to trade him. Interesting question... Would anyone have given Quebec the same return for Lindros after he'd played a few years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swedesessed Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 What would it take? An act of whatever God you worship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 Interesting question... Would anyone have given Quebec the same return for Lindros after he'd played a few years? Mmmm. good question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 There is no trade I’d ever consider, even McDavid. Why? The cap hit for the star player and our desperate need for a franchise D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 Yup It is Chiarelli... He becomes more valuable the better he gets no ? Or is he valuable now because of the hype and the unknown quantity he represents ? I would make the pick and see what you get in 2 or 3 years. No way I trade him at the draft. This kid makes everyone talk about Buffalo ( the team ) in a good way. He'll put us in every conversation going forward. I guess McDavid is the only one if I had to trade him. Interesting question... Would anyone have given Quebec the same return for Lindros after he'd played a few years? Part of the reason his value would go down is that you're going to get him CHEAP for the next 3 years or so. If he's a top pair dman in that time, which most project, his value is super high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 I take any trade that turns us into a sustainable Stanley Cup contender. Use the Lindros trade as a template Svechnikov, Hanifin, Aho, Slavin Zadina, Price (50 per cent retained), Weber (50 per cent retained), Mete, next year’s first Hughes, Horvat, Boeser, Tanev, Juolevi, Demko Etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 Trades I would take from every team:Anaheim: Lindholm + Montour + Manson + Rakell for Dahlin + something small Boston: McAvoy + Pastrnak + DeBrusk Calgary: Gaudreau + Tkachuk + Hamilton for Dahlin + something small Carolina: Aho + Pesce + Slavin + something small Chicago: Nothing Colorado: MacKinnon + Rantanen + Girard/Barrie for Dahlin + something small Columbus: Jones + Panarin, Jones + Werenski + Bjorkstrand, Jones + PLD + something Dallas: Seguin + Klingberg + Faksa Detroit: Nothing Edmonton: McDavid for Dahlin + something small Florida: Barkov + Huberdeau + Trocheck for Dahlin + something LAK: Nothing Minnesota: Granlund + Dumba + Spurgeon + Brodin + Eriksson Ek Montreal: Nothing Nashville: Ekholm + Forsberg + something I don't feel like thinking about NJD: Hall + Hischier + Butcher NYI: Barzal + Leddy + something sizable NYR: Probably nothing, but think Skjei, Chytil, Lias Andersson, Zibanejad, and more Ottawa: Probably nothing Philly: Provorov + Patrick + Voracek Phoenix: Keller + OEL + stuff Pittsburgh: Nothing St. Louis: Parayko + Tarasenko + Schwartz, probably other trade combos would work SJS: Nothing Tampa: Kucherov + Hedman, Kucherov + Sergachev + Point Toronto: Matthews + Dermott + Liljegren, Matthews + Marner for Dahlin + something Vancouver: Petterson + Boeser + Horvat + Juolevi Vegas: Nothing Washington: Nothing Winnipeg: Scheifele + Ehlers + Morrissey, Laine + Morrissey + Trouba + Lowry/Copp, Scheifele + Trouba + something, lots of combinations These aren't very self- consistent because I didn't think too hard. They would absolutely gut every single team though so obviously none would happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 Your Toronto, Winnipeg trade are absolutely bananas high, and a good many of these other ones would have me looking for the nearest bridge Good post and effort though, fun to think about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 Your Toronto, Winnipeg trade are absolutely bananas high, and a good many of these other ones would have me looking for the nearest bridge Good post and effort though, fun to think about What does bananas high mean? Like I'm asking for too much value, or you think I'm smoking something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 Your Toronto, Winnipeg trade are absolutely bananas high, and a good many of these other ones would have me looking for the nearest bridge Good post and effort though, fun to think about Those two and Tampa are basically the only ones I look at and say "ok, maybe". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 What does bananas high mean? Like I'm asking for too much value, or you think I'm smoking something? Asking for too much. Mean, you could be smoking something Those two and Tampa are basically the only ones I look at and say "ok, maybe". Tampa is insanely high too :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 Asking for too much. Mean, you could be smoking something In raw hockey value, I'm asking for too much in every single trade, which is the point :P I think any of those make us a candidate to win several playoff series next year and going forward, which is the only way I make a trade, and not a single team on that list would complete any of those Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 In raw hockey value, I'm asking for too much in every single trade, which is the point :P I think any of those make us a candidate to win several playoff series next year and going forward, which is the only way I make a trade, and not a single team on that list would complete any of those Chicago, Detroit, LAK, Montreal, SJ, Vegas, Washington, and Pittsburgh might. You'd be the Derek Jeter of GM's at that point though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 Chicago, Detroit, LAK, Montreal, SJ, Vegas, Washington, and Pittsburgh might. You'd be the Derek Jeter of GM's at that point though Lol yeah. Thanks for Stanton Jeter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 Ummmm....Dahlin could really hurt our chances for a tank and we might not get a high lottery pick next year. Are you guys sure we should take him? This is untrod territory we are entering here :nana: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 Trades I would take from every team: ... ... These aren't very self- consistent because I didn't think too hard. They would absolutely gut every single team though so obviously none would happen Many of these are good, but we have to give something back in several of them. I nominate Moulson, Pommers, Bogosian, and Larsson. After all, we've got to help the other teams fill out their rosters and manage their caps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 Ummmm....Dahlin could really hurt our chances for a tank and we might not get a high lottery pick next year. Are you guys sure we should take him? This is untrod territory we are entering here I agree.....don't want to make the playoffs too soon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 (edited) What would it take? and I'm trying to be SOMEWHAT realistic here.... -2nd overall pick from Carolina (to take Svechnikov), Hannifan, Carolina's first next year...AND the Canes take Okposo's contract off of the Sabres hands. or -I'd consider Jacob Trouba and Laine from Winnipeg.....with the Jets also taking Okposo and his contract also. I know a great D-man may be even more valuable than a great forward (they can play up to half of a game in ice time in crucial games), but I'll always be a bit more partial to wanting a great forward.....myself as a casual-to-moderate hockey fan....I'd rather see highlight real goals (and a lot of them) than very sound defensive play with some offensive contributions. Edited June 14, 2018 by mjd1001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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