pi2000 Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: I think it's a good move to start Nate over Josh, and I think it'll really help Josh pick up the playbook and a basic understanding of NFL defenses with less pressure. He's not in bad company, wrt QBs who didn't start their first year: Brady, Big Ben, Rodgers, Brees, Rivers, Eli Sacrificial lamb for the first 4-5 weeks. Facing those defenses behind that OL... oh boy. That said, I agree, it is the right choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 1 minute ago, pi2000 said: Sacrificial lamb for the first 4-5 weeks. Facing those defenses behind that OL... oh boy. That said, I agree, it is the right choice. Yeah but they've gotta sign someone for when he goes down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, Eleven said: Yeah but they've gotta sign someone for when he goes down. They're just gonna play Allen because they like his development. Then by December we'll have McCoy taking nonstop handoffs from the corpse of Kyle Orton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Eleven said: Yeah but they've gotta sign someone for when he goes down. Yeah the concern is Peterman goes down the first game or two and Allen is forced to play too soon, putting his health at severe risk against the likes of MIN or SD. A perfect spot to start Allen is week 5 at home vs TEN. I hope Peterman at least gets a chance to exorcise some demons vs SD week 2. Edited September 3, 2018 by pi2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 I know everyone expects this team to win 3 games, but since the season hasn't started yet, I'd like to point out that wins in these first two weeks would be huuuuuge for wild card implications, if you have visions of us being in that situation at the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 Please god let the Sabres be good this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 34 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: Setting aside your interpretation of what represents a fact, selecting on the dependent variable is bad, mmmmk ? Not sure what that means, but I’ll wait for you to identify a great QB who didn’t have a name to match. Then I will graciously accept your apology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 19 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: I know everyone expects this team to win 3 games, but since the season hasn't started yet, I'd like to point out that wins in these first two weeks would be huuuuuge for wild card implications, if you have visions of us being in that situation at the end of the season. As it goes every season, they'll win some games hey should've lost, and they'll lose some games they should've won. I'm expecting them to finish somewhere around .500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 23 minutes ago, darksabre said: Please god let the Sabres be good this year. You know they're starting 1-7 again and we'll have that same 3rd-week-of-October despair we had last year, knowing we're a year away from even having hope in a season again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 10 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: Not sure what that means, but I’ll wait for you to identify a great QB who didn’t have a name to match. Then I will graciously accept your apology. You're saying there's some relationship between name quality and QB quality, but you're only looking at good QBs, so of course there's going to appear to be something there. But you also have to look at bad QBs, and there will be a whole host of bad ones with good names. Anyway... Carson Wentz? Carson is fine, but that's a brutal last name. Matt Ryan? Nobody likes the two first name guy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 1 hour ago, TrueBlueGED said: I don't necessarily blame them for Incognito, but him going crazy wasn't exactly so unpredictable that it completely excuses getting caught with their pants down. This is correct. I just didn’t want to get into it with where I was going. They also had no involvement with bringing Incognito in. Should’ve spent time getting a safety valve, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted September 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Randall Flagg said: 2017 NFL QBR rankings: 1.) Carson Wentz 2.) Case Keenum 3.) Tom Brady 4.) Dak Prescott 5.) Matt Ryan 6.) Ben Roethlisberger 7.) Matthew Stafford 8.) Alex Smith 9.) Drew Brees 10.)Russell Wilson 11.) Phillip Rivers 12.) Blake Bortles 13.) Marcus Mariota 14.) Tyrod Taylor 15.) Kirk Cousins 16.) Jared Goff 17.) Josh McCown 18.) Jameis Winston 19.) Cam Newton 20.) Derek Carr 21.) Carson Palmer 22.) Eli Manning 23.) Joe Flacco 24.) Brett Hundley 25.) Andy Dalton 26.) Jay Cutler 27.) Jacoby Brissett 28.) DeShone Kizer 29.) Mitch Trubisky 30.) Trevor Semian This obviously isn't a perfect list, but I don't think it correlates very strongly with "strength of QB names", which goes like Drew Brees, Carson Palmer, Tom Brady, Russell Wilson, Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers, Cam Newton, ..................... filler ................... Case Keenum, Blake Bortles, Jared Goff, Josh McCown, Brett Hundley, Trevor Semian. Pretty sure Russel Wilson was in MVP consideration and Brees once again threw for 4k yards. I don't trust that list at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 37 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: Not sure what that means, but I’ll wait for you to identify a great QB who didn’t have a name to match. Then I will graciously accept your apology. Sid Luckman Otto Graham Bart Starr Terry Bradshaw Bob Griese Eli Manning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 I like Peterman. I think with the new blocking scheme we'll have a decent running game and teams won't be able to tee off on our quarterbacks. I think we make the playoffs again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 51 minutes ago, nfreeman said: Sid Luckman Otto Graham Bart Starr Terry Bradshaw Bob Griese Eli Manning Eli is a decent example. Terry Bradshaw is a terrible example. The rest sound like TV QBs who panned out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 56 minutes ago, nfreeman said: Sid Luckman, weak QB first name, great QB last name Otto Graham, reverse of above Bart Starr, Starr as a last name? that screams QB Terry Bradshaw, Bradshaw sounds football Bob Griese, OK, this one is weak Eli Manning, last name history gives it a pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Hank said: I like Peterman. I think with the new blocking scheme we'll have a decent running game and teams won't be able to tee off on our quarterbacks. I think we make the playoffs again. Right - we do have to remember that in preseason, it's simply our line going 1v1 with guys like Myles Garrett and the Cincy D-Line. Of course our issues will look exacerbated in that situation. But with actual blocking schemes and other technical crap I couldn't tell you the details of, I'm not saying our line will be close to good, but our offense will be more functional than it was in the first halves of all of those games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 2 hours ago, TrueBlueGED said: You're saying there's some relationship between name quality and QB quality, but you're only looking at good QBs, so of course there's going to appear to be something there. But you also have to look at bad QBs, and there will be a whole host of bad ones with good names. Anyway... Carson Wentz? Carson is fine, but that's a brutal last name. Matt Ryan? Nobody likes the two first name guy! Arguably, Carson Wentz could cause the whole theory to topple. Fookin’ Wentz! Matt Ryan isn’t a great name, but it’s sufficiently solid. Sorta like the player. 1 hour ago, nfreeman said: Sid Luckman Otto Graham Bart Starr Terry Bradshaw Bob Griese Eli Manning All of these names are solid or better names. FACT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: Arguably, Carson Wentz could cause the whole theory to topple. Fookin’ Wentz! Matt Ryan isn’t a great name, but it’s sufficiently solid. Sorta like the player. I think Wentz and Ryan are both good. Names from this year’s draft: Baker Mayfield is a college football name Sam Darnold is okay Josh Rosen is great Josh Allen is really a tossup Lamar Jackson feels like a name that will have a high but short peak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 Bills will be working out Paxton Lynch tomorrow. https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1036732984051867648 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 36 minutes ago, JJFIVEOH said: Bills will be working out Paxton Lynch tomorrow. https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1036732984051867648 I'm very interested by this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 Why work him out? Just sign him and sacrifice him to the god of CTE. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 4 hours ago, Hoss said: I think Wentz and Ryan are both good. Names from this year’s draft: Baker Mayfield is a college football name Sam Darnold is okay Josh Rosen is great Josh Allen is really a tossup Lamar Jackson feels like a name that will have a high but short peak EXCELLENT ANALYSIS. The NFL QB Name Theory is sorta like the band Journey for me: Do I love it ironically or genuinely? Hard to tell sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 19 minutes ago, Hank said: I'm very interested by this I am too. Not the veteran I was hoping for, because he's not a veteran. I hope he gets a chance to play, if only to see why Denver gave up on him. He can't be any worse than Peterman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 Where does Paxton Lynch fall in the name game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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