dudacek Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Blues have been one of the leading contenders for Kane for a while now. Wonder if Botts was playing another bidder off the Blues and the Blues just blinked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Oh, FFS. Kane had not one but TWO scrapes with the law relating to assaulting women. It's reasonably likely that he was innocent on both occasions, but also reasonably likely that he wasn't. We're in the middle of a national upheaval relating to sexual assault and harassment. Add to that (i) problems with teammates in Winnipeg, (ii) limitations in his game, (iii) zero playoff experience, (iv) injury history and (v) only getting him for 20-odd games plus playoffs before he's a UFA -- and that's why his value isn't where it might otherwise be. I also seem to recall Iginla and Seth Jones and PK Subban and Oduya garnering good returns in trade. These GMs are paid to win games and playoff series, and get canned when they don't -- not to propagate racism. Pshh, Shea Weber sucks. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Hmm, I was thinking of someone else then....someone else from the Rangers possibly? Derek Brassard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 I believe there is coded language. But you're trigger happy. I'm still looking to see who called Kane "smug" to begin with and I don't see it. What the hell started this today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 @DarrenDreger Sens still talking to teams about Karlsson. Unless something changes, unlikely Hoffman or Smith go. Offers aren't good enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 I'm still looking to see who called Kane "smug" to begin with and I don't see it. What the hell started this today? Promo. Promo started it. He's the wokest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 (edited) I'm still looking to see who called Kane "smug" to begin with and I don't see it. What the hell started this today? Sorry for the poor multiquote format. Here's how the overall issue was first raised. I'm going to say it. Kane is held to a different standard because he's black. How long has it been since the Winnipeg nonsense? And then in response to something d4rk posted (which I have had dropped from my multiquote for some reason), there was this from Promo: I definitely think Kane being black is a huge reason his transgressions linger while, as Sabel79 points out, the white Kane's foibles are quickly forgotten. Could also be a reason why others see him as smug. Please point to an occasion when EKane was smug. I seemed to miss that. So, Promo was the one who raised it as an issue. Said that "others" call Kane smug. No one on here, though. Edited February 26, 2018 by That Aud Smell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Blues have been one of the leading contenders for Kane for a while now. Wonder if Botts was playing another bidder off the Blues and the Blues just blinked. Are the Blues buyers? They dumped Statsny 20 minutes ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 (edited) We can still call Smolinski smug though, right? Are the Blues buyers? They dumped Statsny 20 minutes ago. That was my point. Maybe they are effectively trading their UFA (Stastny) for a UFA they like better (Kane) Edited February 26, 2018 by Mick O’Manly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 That was my point. Maybe they are effectively trading their UFA (Stastny) for a UFA they like better (Kane) And wouldn't it be funny to acquire a Winnipeg 1st in exchange for Kane?? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 And wouldn't it be funny to acquire a Winnipeg 1st in exchange for Kane?? :D That's some Alanis Morissette level irony right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 We can still call Smolinski smug though, right? That was my point. Maybe they are effectively trading their UFA (Stastny) for a UFA they like better (Kane) Ah, ok. (Where's that flying over the head emoticon when one needs it. ;)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 We can still call Smolinski smug though, right? Ohhhh - 50 internet points to you, sir. That was my point. Maybe they are effectively trading their UFA (Stastny) for a UFA they like better (Kane) Very different players, I take it. Interesting, if so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODO Hockey Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Statsny to jets. Kanes value going down or up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Per Jeremy White Four teams currently in on Kane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 We can still call Smolinski smug though, right? That was my point. Maybe they are effectively trading their UFA (Stastny) for a UFA they like better (Kane) Especially since one of the hang ups with a potential trade with the Blues was their lack of a 1st round pick this year. Now they have that (WPG 1st) if that is the price for Kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 I want a mega-trade. 6 teams with tons of moving parts. Picks and prospects all over the place. A real mess where somehow we come out on the winning end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 (edited) Vogl just tweeted the Same Edited February 26, 2018 by Brawndo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 D'Ebriate: You told me Evander was worth a first, a prospect, and a roster player. JBot: What I told you was true... from a certain point of view. Good morning everybody! How goes the 'Space today? Any news yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Blues Flames, Sharks for sure imo Kings maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODO Hockey Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 I want a mega-trade. 6 teams with tons of moving parts. Picks and prospects all over the place. A real mess where somehow we come out on the winning end. Give us zuccarello and ill be good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marions Piazza Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 kanes issues have been more behind the scenes lockerroom issues then stuff outside of it. In Winnipeg one of the leaders of the team who IIRC is black or at least part black, was the one taking issue with him, and they haven't had issues with him in Winnepeg. As for Atlanta, I can't picture that city having a racist view of a black player. As for the comparisons to the other Kane, as I mentioned previously, he is o e of the elite talented players in the league, and his issues are away from the ice, I don't recall hearing problems in the lockerroom from other teammates about him. Teams and media/fans seem more forgiving of issues when the player is of elite talent. Evander has never been in the level of elite NHL talent. If his issues were only off ice stuff and he was elite, teams wouldn't be as hesitant as they are now because his talent may not be enough to overcome a possible disturbance that may happen in the lockerroom. A team looking to trade for him today is not likely looking at him to fill one of their top spots like a team that would be willing to trade for the other Kane. So it's not fair to compare the 2 and say it's a race issue But is he really? You look at his career stats, .6 points per game isnt elite, not in my opinion anyway. Never above 60 points a season, granted he never plays an 82 game season, and even if he did, his career avg says he'd have 49 points in an 82 pt season. Elite players can take over a game, or multiple games over a period of time, how many games can we say that Kane has done that? He's generally a 20 goal scorer, is that the magic number to be considered elite? The next contract Kane gets will be a vast overpayment, he's borderline worth his current salary, glad GMJB is trying to move on from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 But is he really? You look at his career stats, .6 points per game isnt elite, not in my opinion anyway. Never above 60 points a season, granted he never plays an 82 game season, and even if he did, his career avg says he'd have 49 points in an 82 pt season. Elite players can take over a game, or multiple games over a period of time, how many games can we say that Kane has done that? He's generally a 20 goal scorer, is that the magic number to be considered elite? The next contract Kane gets will be a vast overpayment, he's borderline worth his current salary, glad GMJB is trying to move on from him. Wrong Kane. He was talking about Patrick Kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAud Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 But is he really? You look at his career stats, .6 points per game isnt elite, not in my opinion anyway. Never above 60 points a season, granted he never plays an 82 game season, and even if he did, his career avg says he'd have 49 points in an 82 pt season. Elite players can take over a game, or multiple games over a period of time, how many games can we say that Kane has done that? He's generally a 20 goal scorer, is that the magic number to be considered elite? The next contract Kane gets will be a vast overpayment, he's borderline worth his current salary, glad GMJB is trying to move on from him. Cold eyed rational assessment. Thank you. If we get a 1st rounder or top prospect for Kane I'll be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 (edited) The number of teams interested in Kane seems to be going down. I think the Ducks/Sharks are most likely destinations for Kane, but Philadelphia would make a lot of sense with some of their recent injuries. Edited February 26, 2018 by jahnyc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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