PromoTheRobot Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 I believe there is coded language. But you're trigger happy. It's like gun control. Never is it a good time to bring it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Winnipeg is viewed as the most racist city in Canada and for good reason.While I believe you are correct it did impact Kane's experiences in the Peg and probably Atlanta before that, I do not recall any stories about Big Buf's experiences in that regard in either city.All that said, Winnipeg's racism tends to focus on the large indigenous population there. Yes. I'm sorry, but do you not accuse pretty much everyone with a negative opinion of Kane of being racist? Because that's my recollection. And I say this as someone who has no problem calling out racist stuff when I see it. This is important to keep in mind. There are plenty of reasons why Kane may be looked down on as a player in a particular person’s eyes that don’t have to do with race. At this point, just take a 2nd rounder, a decent prospect and be done with it. Nash has way more value with another year on his deal so I don't expect anything near what NY got. Nash is a UFA. Oh, FFS. Kane had not one but TWO scrapes with the law relating to assaulting women. It's reasonably likely that he was innocent on both occasions, but also reasonably likely that he wasn't. We're in the middle of a national upheaval relating to sexual assault and harassment. Add to that (i) problems with teammates in Winnipeg, (ii) limitations in his game, (iii) zero playoff experience, (iv) injury history and (v) only getting him for 20-odd games plus playoffs before he's a UFA -- and that's why his value isn't where it might otherwise be. I also seem to recall Iginla and Seth Jones and PK Subban and Oduya garnering good returns in trade. These GMs are paid to win games and playoff series, and get canned when they don't -- not to propagate racism. And this, too. I don’t think his race has anything to do with his deadline value. It was definitely a contributing issue in Winnipeg though, I can say that confidently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Jeremy White just tweeted still hearing Calgary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Man, Harrington is dragging this Straw fellow through the mud. He's gonna look like an ass if it turns out to be true. Er... more of an ass, if that's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 At this point, just take a 2nd rounder, a decent prospect and be done with it. Nash has way more value with another year on his deal so I don't expect anything near what NY got. Nash has the same term as Kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Man, Harrington is dragging this Straw fellow through the mud. He's gonna look like an ass if it turns out to be true. Er... more of an ass, if that's possible. Mike Harrington: Still the worst, evidently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 It's like gun control. Never is it a good time to bring it up. Lol okay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Jeremy White just tweeted still hearing Calgary Flames also just claimed Stewart off waivers, fwiw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Hartman to Nashville is interesting. One less suitor. Chris Stewart off waivers to flames also interesting. Seems teams are going to plan b early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 (edited) Aivis Kalniņš @A_Kalnins 48m48 minutes agoMore Aivis Kalniņš Retweeted Mike Straw Can confirm that Lehner has made a formal trade request. Interesting think is that we'll likely never know the truth here. Edited February 26, 2018 by Eleven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 I can't wait for Lehner to be off this team. I haven't hated someone so much since Byslma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallawaySabres Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Nash has the same term as Kane. Hmm, I was thinking of someone else then....someone else from the Rangers possibly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 I wonder if this is a leak by the Lehner camp because the Sabres have been trying to trade him but no one wants him? Like saying "you can't fire me, I quit!" Trying to save face if he's either traded for peanuts or not qualified this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Rhea Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Hartman to Nashville is interesting. One less suitor. Chris Stewart off waivers to flames also interesting. Seems teams are going to plan b early. interesting that chicago got a 1st for him. buffalo absolutely should get a 1st for kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 The Jets have their guy, the Penguins and Predators have their guy...who's left for Kane? Same as we always thought? Ducks and Canucks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Blues Sharks Flames Kings still there for Kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Blues Sharks Flames Kings still there for Kane. Maybe why the Blues got a 1st rounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Winnipeg is viewed as the most racist city in Canada and for good reason.While I believe you are correct it did impact Kane's experiences in the Peg and probably Atlanta before that, I do not recall any stories about Big Buf's experiences in that regard in either city.All that said, Winnipeg's racism tends to focus on the large indigenous population there.kanes issues have been more behind the scenes lockerroom issues then stuff outside of it. In Winnipeg one of the leaders of the team who IIRC is black or at least part black, was the one taking issue with him, and they haven't had issues with him in Winnepeg. As for Atlanta, I can't picture that city having a racist view of a black player. As for the comparisons to the other Kane, as I mentioned previously, he is o e of the elite talented players in the league, and his issues are away from the ice, I don't recall hearing problems in the lockerroom from other teammates about him. Teams and media/fans seem more forgiving of issues when the player is of elite talent. Evander has never been in the level of elite NHL talent. If his issues were only off ice stuff and he was elite, teams wouldn't be as hesitant as they are now because his talent may not be enough to overcome a possible disturbance that may happen in the lockerroom. A team looking to trade for him today is not likely looking at him to fill one of their top spots like a team that would be willing to trade for the other Kane. So it's not fair to compare the 2 and say it's a race issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHawerchuk10 Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 The Jets have their guy, the Penguins and Predators have their guy...who's left for Kane? Same as we always thought? Ducks and Canucks? St. Louis? I would be happy with a return of Dunn and Kyrou quite frankly. Hell, I'd be happy with just Kyrou at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 @BiMHarrington Seems Chad Johnson may be the next man on the move. Can't confirm quite yet though #TradeDeadline #sabres Fake account? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Back to Calgary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 If Rob Ray is to be believed, when St Louis was here there was a lot of interest in Kane from the Blues, Giant FWIW here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Fake account? God dammit, yes :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 (edited) Aivis Kalniņš @A_Kalnins 48m48 minutes agoMore Aivis Kalniņš Retweeted Mike Straw Can confirm that Lehner has made a formal trade request. Interesting think is that we'll likely never know the truth here. That came from Mike Straw; Wawrow and Harrington are refuting that. https://twitter.com/ByMHarrington/status/968161201141231624 Edited February 26, 2018 by IKnowPhysics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 That came from Mike Straw; Harrington is refuting that. https://twitter.com/ByMHarrington/status/968161201141231624 I know. Kalnins is supporting Straw's claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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