Doohickie Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 I'll take Des and Gorges over any of their replacements, any day. Carrier has a place on this team............ just not right now. It scares me when I agree with you, but you're spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 I'll take Des and Gorges over any of their replacements, any day. Carrier has a place on this team............ just not right now. You're insane. Carrier is far and away more useful than Deslauriers. There's not a single, solitary thing Deslauriers does well enough to warrant a regular spot in the lineup. It scares me when I agree with you, but you're spot on. You. You're also insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) Bwahahaha. Excellent gifs. But if you really think Gorges isn't a huge upgrade over Burgerdoer and Falk, then your hatred of slow players is blinding you. There's just not enough team speed on the back-end with him in the lineup. Franson alone drags down the entire scheme, but he's been playing OK of late... still to slow tho. Nice one Pi...though I'd reverse the Gorges and Des gifs. I actually wouldn't mind to see Des back in the lineup for Grant. Des brings some tenacity we're currently lacking... he seems like a good locker room guy too, he gets them going. That said you need to leave Carrier in the lineup, he's been great. They fill two different roles anyway. Edited December 8, 2016 by pi2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 It scares me when I agree with you, but you're spot on. I actually wouldn't mind to see Des back in the lineup for Grant. Des brings some tenacity we're currently lacking... he seems like a good locker room guy too, he gets them going. That said you need to leave Carrier in the lineup, he's been great. They fill two different roles anyway. This right there. Des is an energy/character player. I was wiling to give Grant a chance, he's clearly a high scoring career AHL'er. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Des wasn't even bringing energy before he got hurt. He was just skating around three steps behind the play and fumbling the puck directly to the other team. I eagerly await Deslauriers' return to the top-6 for a shift as a reward for hitting somebody the previous shift.Remember that stretch last year when our top line was 44-90-82? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogre Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 This right there. Des is an energy/character player. I was wiling to give Grant a chance, he's clearly a high scoring career AHL'er. I'd take Des on my team any day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Des wasn't even bringing energy before he got hurt. He was just skating around three steps behind the play and fumbling the puck directly to the other team. Remember that stretch last year when our top line was 44-90-82? I try not to. The Des love around here is killing me. He's a bad hockey player. Bad. The only thing he does well is the occasional big hit and middleweight fighting, neither of which contributes to wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) I'm done with Grant. Hope he is the one headed east when Delo returns. All he does is take up space. Even Delo scores more and he can at least cheerlead and take a punch the odd time it's necessary. We don't need Grant for his face off skills. ROR takes all the key draws anyway, KO and EK have been fine if/when he gets tossed and they are much better after the draw is over. Kane needs more PK time and Zemgus can do everything else Grant does, but better. Dorfburger is the obvious one to go on D, then Falk - who has been surprisingly OK but also brings nothing we don't have without him. I wanted to toss Franson overboard last year like the anchor he was, but am I the only who thinks he's been a pretty capable 5 this year? His positioning and puck decisions have camouflaged his bad feet more this year and he's been pretty effective physically. Edited December 8, 2016 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 So, Guhle must go back once one of the injured D men is deemed ready. I didn't know about, let alone appreciate, that aspect of the NHL/CHL deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogre Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 It was a different time but I see Des in that Semenko role. The game hasn't changed so much that a team no longer needs that type of player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRobertEichel Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 (edited) Wow, lots of hate being thrown toward Des and Grant. In my opinion, these guys are perfect for the 2 spare forwards every team keeps on their 23-man roster. BTW, is it just me or has the message board's collective gif game really gone up a notch recently? Well done, pi2000. Edited December 9, 2016 by FuhrFury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 Grant has proven that he is what he has been: an AHLer. Des is fine as the 13th forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 Wow, lots of hate being thrown toward Des and Grant. In my opinion, these guys are perfect for the 2 spare forwards every team keeps on their 23-man roster. BTW, is it just me or has the message board's collective gif game really gone up a notch recently? Well done, pi2000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 Wow, lots of hate being thrown toward Des and Grant. In my opinion, these guys are perfect for the 2 spare forwards every team keeps on their 23-man roster. BTW, is it just me or has the message board's collective gif game really gone up a notch recently? Well done, pi2000. When is the last time, prior to the annual post trade deadline roster limit easing, that the Sabres sat 2 healthy forwards? They seem to be far more willing to either go w/ 8 D or simply go w/ 22 skaters. (It's good to have your farm club 80 minutes away.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 Not sure about Goober's willingness to use Des as a defenseman, but I'm sure it would have been a strong consideration at some point if he were healthy. Not many teams have a spare forward they can use as an emergency D-man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 Grant is most assuredly not the forward I want as my extra on a 23 man roster. He's an AHL only guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 Grant is most assuredly not the forward I want as my extra on a 23 man roster. He's an AHL only guy I had more hope for him in the pre-season, but besides his FO % being pretty good, I don't really want to keep him around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cereal Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 I may have missed this discussion, but... Was there concern about Carrier staying beyond the customary 9 games? I see he's played 16 games already! How did that work out - Is he up for good? Can he be sent between ROC and BUF as they please (this season)? Thanks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 Once you've aged out of junior, contacts don't slide. The nine game thing is not an issue. Carrier is an interesting case if we ever get healthy because he's waiver-exempt. He might have passed Grant and Deslauriers but those guys would have to be waived. Doubt they'd worry about Grant, but DLo they would. Also, I think they want to see more offence from him, and they may want to give some of the other young Rochester guys another look up here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 I might have an aneurysm if I see Grant getting mentioned in the same breath as the our prospects again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted December 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 I believe if we do a) he would have to clear waivers, and b) most of his salary would remain on our cap. I think he can go on a conditioning assignment after a long injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 I might have an aneurysm if I see Grant getting mentioned in the same breath as the our prospects again. Grant. Grant. Grant. :devil: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 Grant. Grant. Grant. :devil: That didn't bother me as you mentioned him amongst his peers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 That didn't bother me as you mentioned him amongst his peers. Grant. Reinhart. Grant. Eichel. Grant. ROR. Grant.... :devil: :devil: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 Grant. Reinhart. Grant. Eichel. Grant. ROR. Grant.... :devil: :devil: Drop a few rabbits in here and we got us a SS cage match! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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