Norcal Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 But if Kane was being held down all series, and finally came through for a goal, that's not clutch. That inadequate performance, followed by an eventual stroke of brilliance. I like Smell's definition. It's maintaining your great play. Not disappearing and occasionally reappearing. A player that talented is always eventually going to put something together, given enough time. That's not clutch, it's the law of averages. Game and series on the line, Kane and Toews did a little maintenance and saved the Hawks season for atleast 1 more game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Game and series on the line, Kane and Toews did a little maintenance and saved the Hawks season for atleast 1 more game. Yes. But it was only on the line in part because they hadn't been performing before that point. In this playoffs, so far, give me Tarasenko, who's been performing all along. That's "clutch", if it exists at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 But if Kane was being held down all series, and finally came through for a goal, that's not clutch. That inadequate performance, followed by an eventual stroke of brilliance. I like Smell's definition. It's maintaining your great play. Not disappearing and occasionally reappearing. A player that talented is always eventually going to put something together, given enough time. That's not clutch, it's the law of averages. Â Meh. Â Every great player gets shutdown once in awhile. Â Teams deploy a new strategy on defending and sometimes it is effective. Â A few games down and then to figure out a way around it is what talent is all about. Â Sure, it's nice to not ever be shut down but that rarely happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 1 It's the playoffs, the checking is tighter  2 the Blues are in their window which keeps getting slammed in their face year after year by the Hawks so increased urgency when checking the other teams best players is mandatory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Meh. Every great player gets shutdown once in awhile. Teams deploy a new strategy on defending and sometimes it is effective. A few games down and then to figure out a way around it is what talent is all about. Sure, it's nice to not ever be shut down but that rarely happens. That's kind of the point about clutch vs talent. Being shut down for a few games didn't make them chokers any more than scoring a big goal makes them clutch. Just great talent inevitably breaking through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trettioåtta Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Kane has 6 points in 5 games...  How many does he need before he is contributing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogre Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 I like how Oshie starts the game. F those Flyers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Gudas on reputation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Kane has 6 points in 5 games... Â How many does he need before he is contributing? Â I'll be honest, those numbers surprise me. He simply hasn't looked as impactful on a shift-to-shift basis as he was during the regular season games I watched. Eye test baby! :angel: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Gudas on reputation Gudas should be in prison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Damn, Bjork didn't get hurt? It's been 4 periods, he's long overdue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 (edited) That's kind of the point about clutch vs talent. Being shut down for a few games didn't make them chokers any more than scoring a big goal makes them clutch. Just great talent inevitably breaking through.Exactly. I'm not arguing he's not a great player. But this "clutch" business seems suspect. Perform or do not perform. There is no clutch. Is Kane more clutch than Tarasenko this year because his 1 goal came in OT, and Tarasenko's 3 did not?  As for Kane, I'll agree with True, eye test. The numbers back that up somewhat, before OT yesterday he had 0 goals, and 3/5 assists were secondary. He usually impacts the game in a much greater way.  And Mr. Best player in the world has zero goals and 3 assists. Not terrible, but I fully expect that when he scores the game winner tomorrow he'll be further anointed as the best and most clutch player playing today. Edited April 23, 2016 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Neuvirth is lookin good, I always liked him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogre Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Neuvirth has been been making some nice saves. Looking steady. Too bad he's a Flyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 I still can't believe Steve Bernier is playing playoff hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Tavares just got called for the ultimate phantom slashing penalty. There was 100% no slash. Amazing. And now Clutterbuck decides to hit Jagr in the shoulder with his face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josie Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 aaaand Panthers. Ekblad, Jagr, Lu, Campbell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 aaaand Panthers.  Ekblad, Jagr, Lu, Campbell  Awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 (edited) aaaand Panthers. Ekblad, Jagr, Lu, Campbell These are cool, I know ur doing playoff teams but have u done any current Sabres? Gotta give Flyers credit, hate to but they have pulled their together and gotten stellar goaltending to grab the last 2 games. Edited April 23, 2016 by Murray's Rats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Oh look neuvirth leading the flyers to 2 playoff wins.... I think we had plenty of decent GT in buffalo post Miller, but murray sucks at GT talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Good goal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Stupid challenge, it needs. To. Go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Oh look neuvirth leading the flyers to 2 playoff wins.... I think we had plenty of decent GT in buffalo post Miller, but murray sucks at GT talentwasnt he traded to complete the tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Gudas should be in prison.Yes he should Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Who's color on NBCSN, Islanders/Panthers? Pierre? He just said players had returned from the locker room (concussion protocol?!) because "Dr Feel Good" was operating back there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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