PASabreFan Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 I have no problem with the "kick", but when the hell did the "net being completely off the moorings" become the the deciding factor? No way that was a goal and here's why. In order to award a goal in this situation, the goal post must have been displaced by the actions of a defending player, the puck must have been shot (or the player must be in the act of shooting) at the goal prior to the goal post being displaced, and it must be determined that the puck would have entered the net between the normal position of the goal posts. The puck would have never entered the net if it was in it's normal position. Was the puck "shot"? Is a redirect with the skate a shot? Not by the letter of the rule, but by the spirit of it, yes. I think you've identified the key question Swamp. But, wow, that's almost impossible to tell. Are you saying if the net had remained in place, the puck would have been pinned against the bar? Maybe that the puck and net were lifted up together? The league could also have ruled that the puck crossed the line before the net was dislodged. As I suspected: At 3:54 of the second period in the Wild/Stars game, the Situation Room initiated a video review to further examine a play at the Minnesota net. Video review determined that the puck crossed the Minnesota goal line in a legal fashion prior to the net being displaced. According to Rule 78.4 "The goal frame shall be considered in its proper position when at least a portion of the flexible peg(s) are still inside both the goal post and the hole in the ice". Good goal Dallas. https://www.nhl.com/news/situation-room-wild-stars/c-280343660?tid=277729160 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Was the puck "shot"? Is a redirect with the skate a shot? Not by the letter of the rule, but by the spirit of it, yes. I think you've identified the key question Swamp. But, wow, that's almost impossible to tell. Are you saying if the net had remained in place, the puck would have been pinned against the bar? Maybe that the puck and net were lifted up together? The league could also have ruled that the puck crossed the line before the net was dislodged. As I suspected: https://www.nhl.com/news/situation-room-wild-stars/c-280343660?tid=277729160 Yes. I still say no goal. The puck may have crossed the line, but if the net were in it's proper position, it would have crossed the line above the crossbar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Yes. I still say no goal. The puck may have crossed the line, but if the net were in it's proper position, it would have crossed the line above the crossbar. Yeah, and that's the whole reason for the rule. Its to protect the integrity of the net opening. When the net is lifted up three inches, that just isn't the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Yeah, and that's the whole reason for the rule. Its to protect the integrity of the net opening. When the net is lifted up three inches, that just isn't the case. The league didn't apply that rule. In their eyes, the net was not displaced before the puck crossed the line. Yes. I still say no goal. The puck may have crossed the line, but if the net were in it's proper position, it would have crossed the line above the crossbar. But according to the league's definition there is more than one "proper" position for the net: with the pegs seated and with the pegs lifted up but still in the ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Random early playoff stat..... Number of playoff games to go to OT 2005: 21.3% (19-89) 2006: 6.67% (1-15) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Chicago with a PP that seemed awfully suspicious, should have been 4-4 and they score!!! Garbage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) How in the world does Chicago come out of that scrum with a PP? 99/100 that's even calls there. Chicago of course scores on the PP. This is getting out of hand. I have no horse in this race and I'm rather incredulous in regards to the officiating when it comes to the Hawks. I don't care for Hitchcock, but he was right about the officiating when it comes to these guys. Edited April 17, 2016 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Oh brother, now a challenge, what a joke. I remember that time the flyers scored through the outside of the net was bad, but this crap is worse. Play the game 3 consecutive years the Sabres lost a playoff round due to an attrocious call (or 2) that caused the league to revise their rules. :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Chicago with a PP that seemed awfully suspicious, should have been 4-4 and they score!!! Garbage It's getting pretty comical. Does the league think people don't notice this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 It's getting pretty comical. Does the league think people don't notice this?Either that, or they just don't care, I always thought they let a lot go in the playoffs, typically is true, this year I've seen some junk in general throughout all the games I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Either that, or they just don't care, I always thought they let a lot go in the playoffs, typically is true, this year I've seen some junk in general throughout all the games I've seen. There have been some bad calls here and there, this Hawks Blues series has been the most odd though. Game one Philly and Caps too, thought Philly got a rough go of it. St. Louis scores on the PP. Amazing what getting some of those can do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Crawford routinely turns into the best goalie in the world come playoff time. Chicago's greatest strength in recent playoff success is their defending and goaltending, contrary to what their talented offensive parts would have one think, initially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Crawford routinely turns into the best goalie in the world come playoff time. Chicago's greatest strength in recent playoff success is their defending and goaltending, contrary to what their talented offensive parts would have one think, initially. Keith, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson(sp?), and whomever. Plus Rosival as a savvy sixth. Every year! And Crawford might just be the most underrated goalie in the last ten years. If you can pay your perennial Conn Smyther low-starter money, more power to you. Also. I'm no Hitchcock fan (the coach, not the director.) but really. He needs to grow his mustache back in. Maybe even beard himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) Did I just hear Doc use the Rayism "a-tall"? -------—------------------------------------------(why do we have post merging) So I'm just going to assume the league missed the Abdelkader assault, the one that should get him suspended one game for a fight in the last 5 minutes, the rule (42.77?) that was created to stop teams from 'sending a message'. Man, with all those TV's in Toronto you'd think somebody would have seen it. They must have went out for a smoke. Edited April 17, 2016 by JJFIVEOH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) Big 3rd period, come-from-behind win for the Blues today. Credit to them for finding a way to get a couple past Crawford near the end. Edited April 18, 2016 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 The Red Wings are dominating play so they're definitely going to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted April 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Did I just hear Doc use the Rayism "a-tall"? -------—------------------------------------------(why do we have post merging) So I'm just going to assume the league missed the Abdelkader assault, the one that should get him suspended one game for a fight in the last 5 minutes, the rule (42.77?) that was created to stop teams from 'sending a message'. Man, with all those TV's in Toronto you'd think somebody would have seen it. They must have went out for a smoke. "a-tall" is a Canadianism, not a Rob Ray thing. You may recall Harry Neale; same thing. Abdelkaler belongs in a prison somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Big 3rd period, come-from-behind win for the Blues today. Credit to them for finding a way to get a couple passed Crawford near the end. That 3-way passing play the ended with a GWG by Schwartz was spectacular. Doesn't get much better than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Since there is such a lovely night break I'll post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 The Panthers are very fun to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Yay. More challenges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Man, even if I liked the challenge, I'd want there to be a way to do it that doesn't kill all momentum for one team in the wait time, and then give it all to the other team. I know that's not reasonable, but the momentum the Islanders gain from just keeping the game as it was is ridiculous. And there they score after drawing two penalties. Like, if the ref had blown the play dead correctly at the time, no way that 5 on 3 or goal happen. It just doesn't feel right. Good on the Panthers for rebounding. Reilly Smith is a beast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 This is a fun game. That challenge just turned the game on its head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 I'd kill to be watching our boys learn how to play in playoff OT right now. Panthers fans have to be so excited regardless of what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Crotch Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Corey Perry is one hell of a dirty player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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