JJFIVEOH Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 20 more games until the "let's trade Eichel", thread? He has been potting 20 a year, that puts him in the upper echelon of players. Why would we get rid of an Offensive, decent two way player? Because everybody wants the cookie cutter 6'4" 230# power forward that all play the exact same way, leading to the exact same type of hockey from team to team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 How many people here like Alexander Semin? Love Semin. So fluid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Love Semin. So fluid. Indeed. Lots of shots as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPre Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) 20 more games until the "let's trade Eichel", thread? He has been potting 20 a year, that puts him in the upper echelon of players. Why would we get rid of an Offensive, decent two way player? Exactly. I'm not saying this thread is pointless, but it is blowing things out of proportion. Ennis is a good hockey player. No reason to bitch about him. He'll find his way. Ennis is someone that needs to be a part of the Sabres. Screw this trade him for whatever crap. The guy is a talented player. Often times does a great job of initiating/sustaining play in the other teams zone. Ennis will catch his flow. Not worried at all. Edited November 21, 2015 by Thanes16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) Indeed. Lots of shots as well. Only dangerous when he enters the other team's zone but he can be a mess outside of it. Edited November 21, 2015 by Hoss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted November 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Is Ennis really a good hockey player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koomkie Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 I guess it was inevitable. You're a cold hard bunch. so frustrating. Totally agree. He just doesn't fit on a scoring line right now. The kid line is perfect with Eich, Samson and Kane and now Gionta is a good fit with ROR which leaves Ennis with second tier players. gionta is a good fit. The guy is a waste. I have an ulcer from seeing him on the ice exactly when he should be sitting his old ass down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Is Ennis really a good hockey player? Stopp again leave Enis alone. He is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Hoss, on 20 Nov 2015 - 10:13 PM, said:Only dangerous when he enters the other team's zone but he can be a mess outside of it. Bravo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Bravo. Bravo. Sounds like one EK's jumps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted November 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Stopp again leave Enis alone. He is fine. I'm waiting for proof. I see no reason to just accept that Ennis is "good". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 I think Ennis is playing hard, but man does he have no confidence right now. Such is life for the secondary scorer. He'll figure it out. Those 5 on 3 mistakes were indeed brutal, though. I'm waiting for proof. I see no reason to just accept that Ennis is "good". I could probably dig up some d4rksabre posts proclaiming some very romantic things about Tyler Ennis. As recent as last year, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 I'm waiting for proof. I see no reason to just accept that Ennis is "good". Stirring the pot tonite, eh? All is reasonable tonite in CT so I can add my spice to the pot. Ennis while down at the moment is not the problem, Sabres need some younger finishers other than Molson and Gionta, before worrying about Tyler. Larrson needs to score, Foligno.... there are others who need to be upgraded before Tyler who brings speed and hustle. Not like Girgs was scoring a whole lot before he went down. If Sabres are going to trade him they need to get 2 young scoring prospects in return even if it means adding in draft pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 I can add my spice to the pot. Is that what the kids are calling it these days? :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Is that what the kids are calling it these days? :o No Habla Espanol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Is that what the kids are calling it these days? :o I think they're calling it "butt-chugging". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtDart Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Eichel, and Ennis do not mesh well together. They are too similar to be effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 I'm waiting for proof. I see no reason to just accept that Ennis is "good". I'm confused by the screen shot of what you posted, does that just compare every season Semin and Ennis have had? If I was looking at how good Ennis would be, I would look up stats concerning how good he played relative to how good his linemates played, to negate the tank affect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted November 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) I'm confused by the screen shot of what you posted, does that just compare every season Semin and Ennis have had? If I was looking at how good Ennis would be, I would look up stats concerning how good he played relative to how good his linemates played, to negate the tank affect.If you look at Ennis historically the tank appears to have had little effect on his production. He essentially played the same during the tank as he always had. I'm also pointing out that his numbers are nearly identical to Semin, who is historically poo-poo'd around here, but who appears to be a much better shooter than Ennis. Edited November 21, 2015 by d4rksabre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Something something Ennis shooter Semin poo poo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Ennis will only play as well as the players you put him with. He is not with the top guns right now. I see this as a great thing. We have a spare part of talent. He will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Tyler Ennis ......hmmmmm........last year Buffalo scored 153 goals. This years team is on a pace for a whopping 172...... Take away Ennis 20 goals, and thankfully, we'll be back to the team we know. It's a Carrion move. :mellow: It's hockey. Players try to play through pain they shouldn't. Players slump. I'm still betting he rights the ship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 It's not Ennis' scoring I'm concerned about, it's his play. If I had to place money, he'll figure it out, but that makes it no less frustrating in the interim. He's a talented vet and it shouldn't really take this long to rediscover how to play with talented players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 It's not Ennis' scoring I'm concerned about, it's his play. If I had to place money, he'll figure it out, but that makes it no less frustrating in the interim. He's a talented vet and it shouldn't really take this long to rediscover how to play with talented players. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted November 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 It's not Ennis' scoring I'm concerned about, it's his play. If I had to place money, he'll figure it out, but that makes it no less frustrating in the interim. He's a talented vet and it shouldn't really take this long to rediscover how to play with talented players. Come on man, stop teasing me. I need you to run the numbers. I have no idea how to manipulate War on Ice's data to fit my argument. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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