tom webster Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 I don't agree with this at all (other than the shot at Garrioch, who is a bozo; Larry Brooks, OTOH is much more plugged into the Rangers than any WNY Sabres media member is). What is the bolded based on? Good insight. Thanks. Good point regarding agents. I see no reason why local guys can't cultivate relationships with agents -- and I'm confident that many do. Let's do a pinned thread when local guys around the country know something is happening more then 24 hours before it happens. Its all anecdotal stories, similar to watching highlight shows and thinking that McDavid is averaging a point a shift. As far as the bolded part, several local writers have been officers within the sportswriters groups and anecdotally, I have heard their praises song by the national writers that some seem to revere. I follow rumors as close as anyone and have yet to see anyone consistently break stories. Sure there are a lot of good local reporters, and Hoss mentions one I follow. To say no one had a clue about Weber is wrong, everyone knew he was going and Washington was mentioned a few times. Sometimes writers don't feel it is their jobs to break rumors and teams respect that. I have gotten several tweets from my "garage attendant"(PA will remember) informing me of trades and signings hours before they were announced but I know my guys wouldn't tell me any sooner and they know that I would never ask them to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Let's do a pinned thread when local guys around the country know something is happening more then 24 hours before it happens. Its all anecdotal stories, similar to watching highlight shows and thinking that McDavid is averaging a point a shift. As far as the bolded part, several local writers have been officers within the sportswriters groups and anecdotally, I have heard their praises song by the national writers that some seem to revere. I follow rumors as close as anyone and have yet to see anyone consistently break stories. Sure there are a lot of good local reporters, and Hoss mentions one I follow. To say no one had a clue about Weber is wrong, everyone knew he was going and Washington was mentioned a few times. Sometimes writers don't feel it is their jobs to break rumors and teams respect that. I have gotten several tweets from my "garage attendant"(PA will remember) informing me of trades and signings hours before they were announced but I know my guys wouldn't tell me any sooner and they know that I would never ask them to. Well, I think more than 24 hours in advance is an unrealistic standard, especially around the deadline. I also think you're overstating the Weber point -- it was pretty clear to everyone that GMTM was going to unload the pending UFAs -- so no one was claiming that the WNY media "didn't have a clue" that he was going to be traded. But OTOH, I don't think any WNY media member reported that the Caps were going to be the other team in the trade, or that the trade was imminent -- and I also think it's fair to say that the local hockey guys almost-never-to-never have any advance knowledge of any big Sabres moves. With guys like Harrington and Gleason, I'd guess that their antagonistic attitudes toward the team have resulted in them having zero team sources who are willing to give them this kind of info. In any case, I'll invite anyone who's interested to post any advance tweets/reports by local hockey guys in other markets that prove out -- recognizing that it's important to distinguish between "Player XYZ could get moved" speculation stories and "my information is that Player XYZ is going to be traded imminently to either Team A or Team B" reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 (edited) Well, I think more than 24 hours in advance is an unrealistic standard, especially around the deadline. I also think you're overstating the Weber point -- it was pretty clear to everyone that GMTM was going to unload the pending UFAs -- so no one was claiming that the WNY media "didn't have a clue" that he was going to be traded. But OTOH, I don't think any WNY media member reported that the Caps were going to be the other team in the trade, or that the trade was imminent -- and I also think it's fair to say that the local hockey guys almost-never-to-never have any advance knowledge of any big Sabres moves. With guys like Harrington and Gleason, I'd guess that their antagonistic attitudes toward the team have resulted in them having zero team sources who are willing to give them this kind of info. In any case, I'll invite anyone who's interested to post any advance tweets/reports by local hockey guys in other markets that prove out -- recognizing that it's important to distinguish between "Player XYZ could get moved" speculation stories and "my information is that Player XYZ is going to be traded imminently to either Team A or Team B" reports. We will just have to disagree on this point but I will say that the they have zero sources thing is also incorrect. Just like not every player on the team likes each other, not everyone in the organization feels the same way. For example, people would like to believe that Ryan Miller and Gleson hated each other but they had a tremendous amount of respect for each other and conversed regularly about the team while he was here. Edited February 25, 2016 by tom webster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted February 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Interesting article from Custance on "who says no" trades. http://espn.go.com/blog/craig-custance/insider/post?id=7145 He asks executives who says no in fan-proposed trades. One of them is Darnell Nurse and a first for OEL. He says Arizona only does it if the first is Auston Matthews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 I can't stand him, at all. He puts up Ennis numbers but is more expensive, and unlike Ennis, he's not willing to take abuse to score, he dives all over the place, and acts like he's going to be shot by a sniper if he approaches an area where he might be within 15 yards of another body. And his stupid face is oh so punchable. He's everything everyone always hated about Derek Roy, except he dives more and produces less, all while managing to be a black hole defensively. He disgusts me. You were doing so well up to that point. It seems too personal now to take it seriously. Although I do agree with you.. about his abilities. I don't care about his face. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 You were doing so well up to that point. It seems too personal now to take it seriously. Although I do agree with you.. about his abilities. I don't care about his face. :) If we don't see LTS around for awhile it's because this made him realize I was right, and he chucked his phone across the office :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 With guys like Harrington and Gleason, I'd guess that their antagonistic attitudes toward the team have resulted in them having zero team sources who are willing to give them this kind of info. I'll wait to see what happens during the upcoming trade deadlines, but I will say that my distinct impression is that the local hockey writers get scooped by national writers on the regular. Having said that, I think that is more a function of what seems to have been a successful effort to freeze out the local media, rather than a result of any deficiency on the part of the local media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Interesting article from Custance on "who says no" trades. http://espn.go.com/blog/craig-custance/insider/post?id=7145 He asks executives who says no in fan-proposed trades. One of them is Darnell Nurse and a first for OEL. He says Arizona only does it if the first is Auston Matthews. espn insider only :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 I'll wait to see what happens during the upcoming trade deadlines, but I will say that my distinct impression is that the local hockey writers get scooped by national writers on the regular. Having said that, I think that is more a function of what seems to have been a successful effort to freeze out the local media, rather than a result of any deficiency on the part of the local media. I think the deficiency of the local media is a big part of the reason there was an effort to freeze them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted February 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 espn insider only :( Shoot, sorry. Let me copy and paste it. [This post has been modified by nfreeman. The original poster, Hoss, was taken out back and shot. Yes, I pissed on his body afterward.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Shoot, sorry. Let me copy and paste it. [This post has been modified by nfreeman. The original poster, Hoss, was taken out back and shot. Yes, I pissed on his body afterward.] Why can't we see the copy nfreeman? Also murder is illegal in all 50 states you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Shoot, sorry. Let me copy and paste it. [This post has been modified by nfreeman. The original poster, Hoss, was taken out back and shot. Yes, I pissed on his body afterward.] You're on fire lately :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsb Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 (edited) It is not good to get on nfreeman's bad side..... LOL Edited February 25, 2016 by jsb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 I think the deficiency of the local media is a big part of the reason there was an effort to freeze them out. Hmm. Maybe. Do recall, though, Pegula's utter nonsense in that editorial meeting, where he essentially claimed that the writers should say nicer things about the players, and that the media's criticism was part of the team's problems and the players' failure to meet expectations. I think the freeze-out is part of a desire to control the message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Shoot, sorry. Let me copy and paste it. [This post has been modified by nfreeman. The original poster, Hoss, was taken out back and shot. Yes, I pissed on his body afterward.] I think you guys need to hate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODO Hockey Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 I've always had an interest in Nail Yakupov, his speed and his hands is incredible imo, 22 years old, just think he would fit like a glove with jack and jamie.Comments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 (edited) I've always had an interest in Nail Yakupov, his speed and his hands is incredible imo, 22 years old, just think he would fit like a glove with jack and jamie. Comments? He's just too inconsistent and 1-dimensional for me. It's his 4th year in the league, you think he'd have more goals than Moulson at this point (they both have 5-10-15, Yak has played 21 less games though). Still, he just shows absolutely no sign of development. IMO, he's going to be a bust I wonder what it would take to pry Galchenyuck out of Montreal, assuming he's willing to play wing/he can for us Edited February 25, 2016 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODO Hockey Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 He's just too inconsistent and 1-dimensional for me. It's his 4th year in the league, you think he'd have more goals than Moulson at this point (they both have 5-10-15, Yak has played 21 less games though). Still, he just shows absolutely no sign of development. IMO, he's going to be a bust I dont believe that, but im not saying your wrong either, just think he needs a new environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 I dont believe that, but im not saying your wrong either, just think he needs a new environment. He may. He's going to be very hard pressed to find himself surrounded by more talent than he is currently. Hall and everyone else on that team puts up numbers but him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 I dont believe that, but im not saying your wrong either, just think he needs a new environment. Like Grigorenko? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabresith Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 I've always had an interest in Nail Yakupov, his speed and his hands is incredible imo, 22 years old, just think he would fit like a glove with jack and jamie. Comments? Other than the fact we are going to get rid of that scrub Mcginn, I'm with you. But I wouldn't give up much for him, maybe a third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 It is not good to get on nfreeman's bad side..... LOL He has more than that? I think you guys need to hate ###### Clap, clap, clap :worthy: Wait, is this really a thing now :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Ducks GM Bob Murray is talking with reporters now. Said addressing wing position "is a fair assumption" with regard to the deadline. GM Bob Murray said he tried to sign team's RFA's but got nowhere. 'it's going to be an interesting summer around here, I'll tell you that.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 GMTM hates Russians so let's stop with the Yakupov, Galchenyuk, Nikushkin bs. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetweenThePipes00 Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 GMTM hates Russians so let's stop with the Yakupov, Galchenyuk, Nikushkin bs. :) Dude, Galchenyuk is from Milwaukee. But then so was Stafford. Maybe GMTM hates Cheeseheads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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