TrueBlueGED Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 That might work. My concern is, someone needs to watch this kid's back for the first season while he adjusts to how damned fast an NHL defenseman can light you up when you are coming across the middle. I wish Foligno were a bit better with the gloves off. In my opinion you don't need a winger for this--I'd prefer to add a skilled wing to our top-6 and let a defenseman handle the protection. Of course, I'm also not nearly as sold on the deterrent effect as some are--cheap shot artists gonn' cheap shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Looking back on Crosby's rookie year, he had Ryan Malone on his wing, a really tough guy in his prime, and John Leclair was there too, another pretty tough guy. I realize it was a different era (wow, think about that), but Crosby was well protected. Eric Cairns, Lyle Odelien, VanDenBussche, Tarnstrom. All that muscle wasn't around long, but it was there to see him through his first season. I think it is prudent to make sure our franchise player is well protected his rookie season. In my opinion you don't need a winger for this--I'd prefer to add a skilled wing to our top-6 and let a defenseman handle the protection. Of course, I'm also not nearly as sold on the deterrent effect as some are--cheap shot artists gonn' cheap shot. You misread. I don't want a policeman on his line. But I do want a guy who is respected and willing to keep the dogs at bay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) I probably wouldn't pursue any major free agents this summer. You have some young guys who are ready to step in next year, and others who should be getting better. Without a big splash in free agency, will the team be a top 10 or even 15 team? Probably not. But, I'd rather let the current team grow together with the additions you are likely to have coming (Reinhart, Kane, Pysyk, MAYBE Grigorenko) and some other young guys being a 'year better' (Zadarov, Risto, Girgensons). Let the team get better and grow, I'm looking at this coming year to be an exciting year, but not a great year. I think the following year is where I'll start to have expectations. I wouldn't mind seeing Stewart come back on a decent contract (play top 2 line winger the next year or two, then maybe slot into a 3rd line spot after that), but don't forget you have a LOT of prospects coming to Rochester next year that you hope some will turn out to be good players in 2-3 years. I also kinda liked Neuvirth, I would favor bringing him back as your #1 guy for the next couple years over just about anyone else available...but that is really it. You sign that big Free agent to the 6 year deal and eventually he'll be taking up a spot for the next young guy to come up into. Edited March 5, 2015 by mjd1001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Looking back on Crosby's rookie year, he had Ryan Malone on his wing, a really tough guy in his prime, and John Leclair was there too, another pretty tough guy. I realize it was a different era (wow, think about that), but Crosby was well protected. Eric Cairns, Lyle Odelien, VanDenBussche, Tarnstrom. All that muscle wasn't around long, but it was there to see him through his first season. I think it is prudent to make sure our franchise player is well protected his rookie season. You misread. I don't want a policeman on his line. But I do want a guy who is respected and willing to keep the dogs at bay. In your last quote Shanahan in his prime came to mind for me. Not many would mess with him and he could skate and score with the best of them. Find me someone that fits that profile. I'm with you. Don't want no policeman on that line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 I probably wouldn't pursue any major free agents this summer. You have some young guys who are ready to step in next year, and others who should be getting better. Without a big splash in free agency, will the team be a top 10 or even 15 team? Probably not. But, I'd rather let the current team grow together with the additions you are likely to have coming (Reinhart, Kane, Pysyk, MAYBE Grigorenko) and some other young guys being a 'year better' (Zadarov, Risto, Girgensons). Let the team get better and grow, I'm looking at this coming year to be an exciting year, but not a great year. I think the following year is where I'll start to have expectations. I wouldn't mind seeing Stewart come back on a decent contract (play top 2 line winger the next year or two, then maybe slot into a 3rd line spot after that), but don't forget you have a LOT of prospects coming to Rochester next year that you hope some will turn out to be good players in 2-3 years. I also kinda liked Neuvirth, I would favor bringing him back as your #1 guy for the next couple years over just about anyone else available...but that is really it. You sign that big Free agent to the 6 year deal and eventually he'll be taking up a spot for the next young guy to come up into. Even with all those guys coming up there are still holes. With $30 million in cap space they're going to have to spend some of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 In your last quote Shanahan in his prime came to mind for me. Not many would mess with him and he could skate and score with the best of them. Find me someone that fits that profile. I'm with you. Don't want no policeman on that line. Shanny's are hard to come by. The next or current Ryan Malone would be fantastic. Hell, I'd settle for a Wayne Simmonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) Shanny's are hard to come by. The next or current Ryan Malone would be fantastic. Hell, I'd settle for a Wayne Simmonds. Settle? I'd be thrilled if we somehow landed Simmonds. 20+ goals consistently, very aggressive/chippy, and he fights like hell. He's a dream player Edited March 5, 2015 by WildComrade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Shanny's are hard to come by. The next or current Ryan Malone would be fantastic. Hell, I'd settle for a Wayne Simmonds. So... Evander Kane still doesn't exist in your world? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byebye Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 lol they love him in pittsburgh, they want to keep him longer. He has 13 points and can't stay healthy, how happy can they really be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 So... Evander Kane still doesn't exist in your world? So... you didn't read the whole thread? I responded to Kane earlier. He doesn't strike me as a shielding-his-teammates sort of presence. If I'm wrong, I'll be happy about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 You misread. I don't want a policeman on his line. But I do want a guy who is respected and willing to keep the dogs at bay. I know what you meant, I just don't think Stewart is the droid you're looking for. I think the deficiencies in his game outweigh any potential protection he will offer. If it came down to Stewart versus someone who is good at hockey but not very physically imposing, I'd take the person who is good at hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 I know what you meant, I just don't think Stewart is the droid you're looking for. I think the deficiencies in his game outweigh any potential protection he will offer. If it came down to Stewart versus someone who is good at hockey but not very physically imposing, I'd take the person who is good at hockey. Stewart or Jason Pominville... and go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Stewart or Jason Pominville... and go! For the 1st year of a #1 or #2 overall pick, I want a Stewart. Subsequent years after the kid has developed a good head swivel I'll take Pommer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 So... you didn't read the whole thread? I responded to Kane earlier. He doesn't strike me as a shielding-his-teammates sort of presence. If I'm wrong, I'll be happy about it. I thought the same thing about Kane after the trade when people were touting him as the defender of the franchise. But I think he'll be smart enough to protect the best center he's ever played with in his career (I hope). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) Not for a line with Reinhart or player X but what about Lee Stempniak on the 3/4th line? Also these young kids will have plenty of protection and should know by now they must protect themselves. Edited March 5, 2015 by Ligerovich 4GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) So... you didn't read the whole thread? I responded to Kane earlier. He doesn't strike me as a shielding-his-teammates sort of presence. If I'm wrong, I'll be happy about it. I wouldn't be surprised if Foligno gets a shot next year on either Reinhart or McEichel's flank in this role. Edited March 5, 2015 by Djuda Chekhov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 I wouldn't be surprised in Foligno gets a shot next year on either Reinhart or McEichel's flank fro this role. Given the current roster, it's what I would prefer. I'd like to see that improved however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 If you don't mind an older man, what about a certain former SCF captain, now with the Avs, who can be rough and tough and still mentor the kid? Talbot ? because as a 4th liner i'd love him on our team :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Talbot ? because as a 4th liner i'd love him on our team :p He's in Boston now. :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 He had plenty of time before Pittsburgh to be a difference maker. I'm always hearing, he only looks average in Buffalo because of the team around him, he's our best defenseman. I won't argue he was our best or in the top pairing. But.... He goes to a team where he should look good, be that over the edge back end difference maker that the Pens needed, and he isn't it in my opinion. Just makes GMTM look better to me for buying him out. So, yes, your right, and I'm beating that poor dead horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Not to be a hater but Antti Niemi is not the answer. Hes too slow and just doesn't fit that well. Id so rather just bring back Neuvirth. Younger, and cheaper Pominville is a UFA? Thats very interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannepanne Posted March 5, 2015 Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 Not to be a hater but Antti Niemi is not the answer. Hes too slow and just doesn't fit that well. Id so rather just bring back Neuvirth. Younger, and cheaper Pominville is a UFA? Thats very interesting. Pominville is not a UFA. He's signed for a couple more seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 He's... European. I'm not sure how a German would fit in with the Soviet take over of SabreSpace. Just sayin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 I'm not sure how a German would fit in with the Soviet take over of SabreSpace. Just sayin'. Let's find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Let's find out. I agree. I would love to see him come back, but I really don't think it will happen. Not too mention that I am not sure the Sabres will be ready for him next season. Maybe the one after next they will be more ready. On the other hand ... I assume that Mess / Balls will not be back, so the Hoff sure would come in handy / dandy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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