Hoss Posted January 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 So you slide him to the number one slot and build the rest of the roster around that? Do you go with Mcdavid, Girgs, Grigs and Samson as our four centres? if not, who do you move to the wing? I'd say McDavid's skill set works better on the wing than Grigs or Samson and the other two are probably better defensively. Zemgus can play wing, but then we are left with a soft group of rookies in the middle. I'm basically thinking of Connor in the WJC Domi role. Pretty sure Stamkos and Crosby have each seen some time on the wing. Didn't hurt them much. Grigorenko or Girgensons to the wing. Preferably Grigorenko... Or we trade somebody for a winger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Remember Grigorenko has the body to dig in the corners and he has the shot to get set ups from a good center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Remember Grigorenko has the body to dig in the corners and he has the shot to get set ups from a good center. But he doesn't have the mindset. To me he is a pure playmaking centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted January 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 But he doesn't have the mindset. To me he is a pure playmaking centre. I'm not going to move McEichel to the wing just because Grigorenko doesn't have the brain to play wing on the third line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny DangerFace Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Could McDavid turn Deslauriers into a 20 goal scorer lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Moulson-Reinhart-Mitchell Ennis-McDavid-Hodgson Girgensons-Grigorenko-Gionta Deslauriers-McCormick-Flynn/Foligno That second line is tiny, but I'm trying to mix in some vets/rooks on each line. For example, there's no way we run out a line of McDavid-Reinhart-Armia; it's just not happening. Of course, we're probably not running 3 rooks down the middle either; maybe flip-flop Girgensons and Grigorenko. In any event, the right side of that roster is...not attractive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Moulson-Reinhart-Mitchell Ennis-McDavid-Hodgson Girgensons-Grigorenko-Gionta Deslauriers-McCormick-Flynn/Foligno That second line is tiny, but I'm trying to mix in some vets/rooks on each line. For example, there's no way we run out a line of McDavid-Reinhart-Armia; it's just not happening. Of course, we're probably not running 3 rooks down the middle either; maybe flip-flop Girgensons and Grigorenko. In any event, the right side of that roster is...not attractive. I really need Mitchell and Flynn off this team. Replace them with goons. McEichel And Reino need them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Moulson-Reinhart-Mitchell Ennis-McDavid-Hodgson Girgensons-Grigorenko-Gionta Deslauriers-McCormick-Flynn/Foligno That second line is tiny, but I'm trying to mix in some vets/rooks on each line. For example, there's no way we run out a line of McDavid-Reinhart-Armia; it's just not happening. Of course, we're probably not running 3 rooks down the middle either; maybe flip-flop Girgensons and Grigorenko. In any event, the right side of that roster is...not attractive. Agreed on the right wings being ugly, but replacing Mitchell with a legitimate top 6 RW would make this team look a lot more competitive. Think of a Moulson type RW who can score 20-30 goals (not named Drew Stafford). Still very young, but at least potential enough to not get outshot by 20 each game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Agreed on the right wings being ugly, but replacing Mitchell with a legitimate top 6 RW would make this team look a lot more competitive. Think of a Moulson type RW who can score 20-30 goals (not named Drew Stafford). Still very young, but at least potential enough to not get outshot by 20 each game. Trade for Lucic? /ducks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Trade for Lucic? /ducks This would be the perfect time for that Iginla or Shane Doan trade that SabreSpace was clamoring for a few years back. Someone who could score and could protect the kid a bit. Dustin Brown? /ducks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 This would be the perfect time for that Iginla or Shane Doan trade that SabreSpace was clamoring for a few years back. Someone who could score and could protect the kid a bit. Dustin Brown? /ducks again Evander Kane? If there is a power forward available I make every effort to grab one to place on McEichel's wing. Let the kid know the org has his back. The last thing we need is him fending for himself against Boston and Philly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Couldn't Girgensons play the Dustin Brown role and be moved to Wing? Allowing the top 3 centres to be McDavid / Eichel, Reinhart and Grigerenko. Though exciting to think how good they could be its also a bit scary to have all 3 centres to be so young. Wonder if the Sabres Mgmt will be comfortable with so much youth down the middle and would consider moving Grigerenko in a deal that could bring them some expierence like a ROR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Moulson-Reinhart-J. Williams Ennis-McDavid-E. Kane Girgensons-Grigorenko-Gionta Deslauriers-McCormick-Flynn/Foligno That second line is tiny, but I'm trying to mix in some vets/rooks on each line. For example, there's no way we run out a line of McDavid-Reinhart-Armia; it's just not happening. Of course, we're probably not running 3 rooks down the middle either; maybe flip-flop Girgensons and Grigorenko. In any event, the right side of that roster is...not attractive. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherman Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Agreed on the right wings being ugly, but replacing Mitchell with a legitimate top 6 RW would make this team look a lot more competitive. Think of a Moulson type RW who can score 20-30 goals (not named Drew Stafford). Still very young, but at least potential enough to not get outshot by 20 each game. Think Connoly from Tampa could be available? How about Saad from Chicago? Two teams with lots of talent and cap issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted January 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Think Connoly from Tampa could be available? How about Saad from Chicago? Two teams with lots of talent and cap issues. Saad's contract is up after this year and he'll be a RFA. Chicago does have problems. They'll be moving one or two of Saad, Sharp, Hossa, Hjalmarsson. I'll take any of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Evander Kane? If there is a power forward available I make every effort to grab one to place on McEichel's wing. Let the kid know the org has his back. The last thing we need is him fending for himself against Boston and Philly. Chris Stewart? :ph34r: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted January 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Chris Stewart? :ph34r: Somebody with a little skill and consistency would be preferred. Somebody who is under contract would be even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Saad's contract is up after this year and he'll be a RFA. Chicago does have problems. They'll be moving one or two of Saad, Sharp, Hossa, Hjalmarsson. I'll take any of them. Yeah they are in trouble. They have 15 guys signed for next year at 65.4 Million, with a projected cap of 71 million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 McDavid is all about speed, he's got a gear others only dream about. He needs one winger who can keep up and finish. The other could be a digger/checker/protector type. Deslauriers could be the latter, but would have to score a bit. Look at what Crosby has done for the guys he's been paired with. They've rarely been stars, the PP is where he lines up with high end talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Chris Stewart? :ph34r: I have zero problems with him on my team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 I really need Mitchell and Flynn off this team. Replace them with goons. McEichel And Reino need them. Virre Reino? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) Saad's contract is up after this year and he'll be a RFA. Chicago does have problems. They'll be moving one or two of Saad, Sharp, Hossa, Hjalmarsson. I'll take any of them. How do you think they let go? Hossa at 35 with that hit would be my bet Hossa: age (35) Salary: $7.9 mil/year until 2016/17 where it dips to $4 mil/year and then $1 mil/year in 2017/18 Hit: $5.23 mil/year UFA: 2021 Shaad: (age 21) RFA next season, still on his rookie contract I believe Sharp: (age 32) Salary: Dips to $5.5 mil/year next year Hit: $5.9 mil/year UFA: 2017 Hjalmarsson: (age 27) Salary: $4.2 mil/year Hit: $4.1 mil/year UFA: 2019 Edited January 22, 2015 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 I would definitely take on Hossa and Sharp. A 60 point right wing and a 75 point left wing. Good veteran guys. Still productive, still competitive. Stick that in your McEichel and smoke it. That's the way to get these young centers to lead the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 How do you think they let go? Hossa at 35 with that hit would be my bet Hossa: age (35) Salary: $7.9 mil/year until 2016/17 where it dips to $4 mil/year and then $1 mil/year in 2017/18 Hit: $5.23 mil/year UFA: 2021 Shaad: (age 21) RFA next season, still on his rookie contract I believe Sharp: (age 32) Salary: Dips to $5.5 mil/year next year Hit: $5.9 mil/year UFA: 2017 Hjalmarsson: (age 27) Salary: $4.2 mil/year Hit: $4.1 mil/year UFA: 2019 Hossa and Saad are the only ones without NMC/NTCs. So as you and Tank mentioned Hossa is the most likely to be moved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 I would definitely take on Hossa and Sharp. A 60 point right wing and a 75 point left wing. Good veteran guys. Still productive, still competitive. Stick that in your McEichel and smoke it. That's the way to get these young centers to lead the team. Hossa and Saad are the only ones without NMC/NTCs. So as you and Tank mentioned Hossa is the most likely to be moved Do we really want a hit of ~$5 mil/year with Hossa until he's 40? Is there a chance we can trade for him, and then maybe restructure his contract? No doubt Chicago wants someone cheaper to come in and replace him, so who are we looking at to send back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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