z-man Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 How many times can anybody repeat the same answer game in and game out during the post-game before somebody finally says '###### it, I have no idea'. John Vogl @BuffNewsVogl 2m2 minutes ago Zemgus Girgensons says you can take his quotes from all the other games about players not having an effort and apply them again tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 I don't care if he is from Rochester or North Korea, Gionta sucks, and is an embarrassment as a captain. The tire fire continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 How many times can anybody repeat the same answer game in and game out during the post-game before somebody finally says '###### it, I have no idea'. I actually think that as long as the tank is the plan, it should be the owner, president, or GM answering questions in the post game locker room? The guys are playing their balls off and they are hanging them out to dry. What a bunch of cowards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Crotch Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 I don't care if he is from Rochester or North Korea, Gionta sucks, and is an embarrassment as a captain. The tire fire continues. Zero goals in 16 games played. As far as I'm concerned he is just taking a spot from a more deserving young player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 ...The guys are playing their balls off and they are hanging them out to dry. What a bunch of cowards. Huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Huh? So I see you are buying in to the TN BS. They really are playing hard. They're just not that good. And by not that good I mean awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 I actually think that as long as the tank is the plan, it should be the owner, president, or GM answering questions in the post game locker room? The guys are playing their balls off and they are hanging them out to dry. What a bunch of cowards. *insert slow clap gif here* Dwight, I don't know if you are reading the game day threads, but if you are, here is my apology to you. Yes, Darcy is a fecking weasel. He has foisted upon us this abomination of a plan and sold it to the masses. and for that he is most definitely a weasel. This is an embarrassment of epic proportions. Feck the tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 I actually think that as long as the tank is the plan, it should be the owner, president, or GM answering questions in the post game locker room? The guys are playing their balls off and they are hanging them out to dry. What a bunch of cowards. That's quite a mixed metaphor. But an interesting take. I think it's fair to say you could plot "talent level" and "amount of effort perceived" on a chart and find that the relationship would be proportional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Eh. It was a game. One game closer to McEichel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 That's quite a mixed metaphor. But an interesting take. I think it's fair to say you could plot "talent level" and "amount of effort perceived" on a chart and find that the relationship would be proportional. I think his idea is dead nuts. Management has created this monster. They should be the ones to answer for it post-games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Eh. It was a game. One game closer to McDeichel. Add the D. It sounds better. GO SABRES!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 My wife asked me, "Why are they so bad"? I couldn't answer her rationally. They are are all professional hockey players. The only answer is talent. GMTM is in charge of that. He MUST be the tank leader and has TP's blessing. (For my money, and that's much less than TP's, TP can be talked into anything sports related, and has been). Something this bad must be created and contrived. Hopefully, when the time comes, GMTM can create a winning team. TN must be in on the tank and therefore was less than excited to sign his extension. He knows he will be gone once the cavalry arrives, and this was the impetus for PL's leaving also. This is no way to treat the STH population and is akin to fraud. Again, a team this bad does not happen by accident, and must be willful. I will continue to watch and pull for the Sabres because I'm from Buffalo, be this sucks from the start to finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Crotch Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 When you're regularly getting out-shot by a 4-to-1 margin, I'm not sure it is entirely a lack of talent that is at fault. This team is so bad that I tend to think it is the perfect storm of a lack of talent, lack of an effective system (coaching), and a lack of effort by some (e.g. Hodgson). But, I agree that the latter two variables don't matter much without more talent on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted November 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Add the D. It sounds better. GO SABRES!!! No. It doesn't. As many times as you've tried. I think his idea is dead nuts. Management has created this monster. They should be the ones to answer for it post-games. The management that created this monster doesn't work for this team anymore... Let's stop acting like we're the only team to be terrible in the history go professional hockey. Management doesn't have to answer ######. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 No. It doesn't. As many times as you've tried. The management that created this monster doesn't work for this team anymore... Let's stop acting like we're the only team to be terrible in the history go professional hockey. Management doesn't have to answer ######. Take it above GMTM and yes they do. And I don't give a ###### if we are the first or the last, it is a ###### way of doing business. Management should definitely have to answer for it. It's not Nolan or the players fault this crap is on display. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Crotch Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 My wife asked me, "Why are they so bad"? I couldn't answer her rationally. They are are all professional hockey players. The only answer is talent. GMTM is in charge of that. He MUST be the tank leader and has TP's blessing. (For my money, and that's much less than TP's, TP can be talked into anything sports related, and has been). Something this bad must be created and contrived. Hopefully, when the time comes, GMTM can create a winning team. TN must be in on the tank and therefore was less than excited to sign his extension. He knows he will be gone once the cavalry arrives, and this was the impetus for PL's leaving also. This is no way to treat the STH population and is akin to fraud. Again, a team this bad does not happen by accident, and must be willful. I will continue to watch and pull for the Sabres because I'm from Buffalo, be this sucks from the start to finish. I definitely think this (losing on purpose) is a plan engineered by Terry Pegula. It'd certainly explain LaFontaine's leaving. It'd explain the weird "McDavid in Buffalo" game earlier this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabresBillsFan Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 I definitely think this (losing on purpose) is a plan engineered by Terry Pegula. It'd certainly explain LaFontaine's leaving. It'd explain the weird "McDavid in Buffalo" game earlier this year. I agree I have been saying this for awhile now. I think LaFontaine wanted to keep several veterans last season but I think the plan was already in play between Pegula,Murray, Devine, the scouts and Ted Black. I think they didn't want to change the plan and that's why LaFontaine decided to bail. Because he knew it would take this team to a new low with no guarntee of putting together a Stanley Cup contender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 I definitely think this (losing on purpose) is a plan engineered by Terry Pegula. It'd certainly explain LaFontaine's leaving. It'd explain the weird "McDavid in Buffalo" game earlier this year. If it is, than it is fraud. I guess they could say that Sabres games are entertainment and therefore you get what you pay for. I can agree with that logic, but then just tell me. I'm from Buffalo, I can handle the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted November 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 I think this "losing on purpose" came from multiple minds. Who all thought the same thing: this team ###### sucks and needs a star. Pretty sinple. Not fraud, that's just a ridiculous statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 I agree I have been saying this for awhile now. I think LaFontaine wanted to keep several veterans last season but I think the plan was already in play between Pegula,Murray, Devine, the scouts and Ted Black. I think they didn't want to change the plan and that's why LaFontaine decided to bail. Because he knew it would take this team to a new low with no guarntee of putting together a Stanley Cup contender. Then they must agree that Eichel is a "generational" talent because our chances of getting McDavid are 20%. What business banks on 20%? I think this "losing on purpose" came from multiple minds. Who all thought the same thing: this team ###### sucks and needs a star. Pretty sinple. Not fraud, that's just a ridiculous statement. Fraud is a deception deliberately practiced in order to secure unfair or unlawful gain (McDavid). Why is that a ridiculous statement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny DangerFace Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Then they must agree that Eichel is a "generational" talent because our chances of getting McDavid are 20%. What business banks on 20%? Fraud is a deception deliberately practiced in order to secure unfair or unlawful gain (McDavid). Why is that a ridiculous statement? It's not unfair or unlawful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted November 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Fraud is a deception deliberately practiced in order to secure unfair or unlawful gain (McDavid). Why is that a ridiculous statement? Where is the deception? Murray has never claimed this was a winning team. In fact, he has said on multiple occasions that it isn't. How is a higher draft pick unlawful or unfair gain? It's not even a little bit unlawful or unfair. By any stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Where is the deception? Murray has never claimed this was a winning team. In fact, he has said on multiple occasions that it isn't. How is a higher draft pick unlawful or unfair gain? It's not even a little bit unlawful or unfair. By any stretch. The deception is by not saying to the STH that they would set the organization up to fail to get a high draft choice, and not get quality players in to win now. If the STH expected to win now and bought tickets on that premise, then it's fraud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted November 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) The deception is by not saying to the STH that they would set the organization up to fail to get a high draft choice, and not get quality players in to win now. If the STH expected to win now and bought tickets on that premise, then it's fraud. Well if STHs bought tickets in the last few seasons expecting to win then they're probably the ones picking their nose on the kiss cam. Seriously, it's not fraud. It's a lot of things, good and bad, but definitely not fraud. Edited November 9, 2014 by Tankalicious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Well if STHs bought tickets in the last few seasons expecting to win then they're probably the ones picking their nose on the kiss cam. Seriously, it's not fraud. It's a lot of things, good and bad, but definitely not fraud. OK Tank, I'm with you. I'm just frustrated that if this were a contrived effort to lose intentionally, I feel punked that I got in way too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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