WildCard Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 If Edmonton's ever going to widen the gap, it's in their next 5 games. Like others have posted, anything short of 4 regular points by them would be disappointing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) Magic Numbers for games played through 3/12 (30 days left in the regular season) Ottawa, Florida - 1Colorado - 2Philadelphia - 5New Jersey - 8 Columbus - 13Toronto - 15Carolina - 17Arizona - 25Edmonton - 28Nashville, Montreal, NY Islanders, Anaheim, NY Rangers, Tampa Bay, Detroit, St Louis, Pittsburgh, Chicago, Washington, Minnesota, Vancouver, Calgary, Winnipeg, Los Angeles, Boston, San Jose, Dallas - Clinched Dallas clinched tonight. The list continues to dwindle, but we all know where the real challenge is anyways. Ottawa can clinch tomorrow. Current worst case: 3% (11th place) in the lottery Edited March 13, 2015 by Tank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 yotes, giving up 3rd period goal, now down 2-1. this season. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Aaaaaaaaaaand Ekman-Larsson just got boarded and can't get up. Hope it's nothing serious but looked similar to Pat Kane's recent injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted March 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Current standings through games played 3/12. Team GP L W OT PT MPP PR RPTC CPM Buffalo 67 42 19 6 90 120 30 28 18.7 Edmonton 68 39 18 11 89 117 28 29 14.0 Arizona 68 39 21 8 86 114 28 32 12.4 Toronto 68 35 27 6 76 104 28 42 8.6 Carolina 66 33 25 8 74 106 32 44 8.0 Columbus 67 34 29 4 70 100 30 48 8.5 CPM = per sportsclubstats.com and lottery weighting - last updated 3/10 in AM Eulers at BJ's in a 2-1/2 bagger. Loafs in Calgary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude_Verret Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I really did think Buffalo would be the clear frontrunner for the shart. They were historically bad last year, nobody else in the league was even close. Murray signed a few guys, but realistically, I thought Enroth/Neuvirth would be terrible, we'd struggle to score consistently, and we'd have horrible possession stats, leading to a lot of shots on goal that our goalies couldn't stop. I thought we'd be maybe 6 or 8 points better than last year and nobody else would be too close. In the end, my thoughts weren't too far off, outside of Neuvirth and Enroth--both of whom were decent--and I didn't predict that Edmonton, with all that young talent, would be this bad. I never gave Arizona a second thought until about 2 weeks ago. I agree that at the start of the year we were head and shoulders above the other CHL contenders, but once we had that huge December aberration then all bets were off and it was a legit race for the shart. I still like our chances and believe we've set ourselves up nicely with the elite CHL talent necessary to win this damn thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Current standings through games played 3/12. Team GP L W OT PT MPP PR RPTC CPM Buffalo 67 42 19 6 90 120 30 28 18.7 Edmonton 68 39 18 11 89 117 28 29 14.0 Arizona 68 39 21 8 86 114 28 32 12.4 Toronto 68 35 27 6 76 104 28 42 8.6 Carolina 66 33 25 8 74 106 32 44 8.0 Columbus 67 34 29 4 70 100 30 48 8.5 CPM = per sportsclubstats.com and lottery weighting - last updated 3/10 in AM Eulers at BJ's in a 2-1/2 bagger. Loafs in Calgary. At this point, all games with Buffalo, Edmonton or Arizona are important to the CHL. The Septic Six is really a three team race... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 At this point, all games with Buffalo, Edmonton or Arizona are important to the CHL. The Septic Six is really a three team race... I'm very interested in where Toronto ends up odds-wise. If they finish 4th, with a ~10% chance at McDavid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I'm very interested in where Toronto ends up odds-wise. If they finish 4th, with a ~10% chance at McDavid... to take a phrase from our sister site... DOOOOMED! Count me out of the tin foil conspiracy theory crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude_Verret Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) Sorry if posted elsewhere, but puck daddy is providing their powerless rankings complete with "chances the NHL fixes the draft for them" for each team.. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/nhl-draft-tank-powerless-rankings--will-bettman-fix-the-lottery-for-your-team-181303868.html 5. Toronto Maple Leafs (58 pts.) Current Draft Lottery Odds: 9.5 percent Chances The NHL Fixes The Draft For Them: The NHL is already bringing every event imaginable to Toronto in the next few years for the 100th anniversary of the first pandering to Toronto, so they might as well bring McDavid too. 1. Buffalo Sabres (43 pts.) Current Draft Lottery Odds: 20 percent Chances The NHL Fixes The Draft For Them: If the NHL was smart, they would, but given how they already changed the draft rules to jerk around Murray, we’re guessing they're not fans of abject tanking. Edited March 13, 2015 by Claude_Verret Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I like that Buffalo are seen as Villains almost for "tanking" but no one seemed to care when Pittsburgh did it. When Edmonton did it year after year. Or how now Toronto and Arizona do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Ekman-Larsson's injury wasn't serious, he's day-to-day. Thank heavens. If Edmonton loses in regulation tonight, we're only 3 points back with 2 games to play to catch up, that's terrifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I like that Buffalo are seen as Villains almost for "tanking" but no one seemed to care when Pittsburgh did it. When Edmonton did it year after year. Or how now Toronto and Arizona do the same. Folks absolutely cared when Pittsburgh intentionally tanked for the chance to draft the obvious generational talent. You don't remember it becuase it was Mario Lemeiux. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) Folks absolutely cared when Pittsburgh intentionally tanked for the chance to draft the obvious generational talent. You don't remember it becuase it was Mario Lemeiux. I don't think anyone on this board will forget this season, even if they tried :death: :bag: Edited March 13, 2015 by WildComrade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Folks absolutely cared when Pittsburgh intentionally tanked for the chance to draft the obvious generational talent. You don't remember it becuase it was Mario Lemeiux. Not that I was really around, but while that may have been the case at the time, I don't think history judges them in light of that. I certainly don't hear any mainstream commentators referencing it when talking about those Lemieux teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I like that Buffalo are seen as Villains almost for "tanking" but no one seemed to care when Pittsburgh did it. When Edmonton did it year after year. Or how now Toronto and Arizona do the same. Or the fact reporters were praising Arizona for commiting to a Buffalo Style Rebuild while simultaneously blasting the Sabres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Or the fact reporters were praising Arizona for commiting to a Buffalo Style Rebuild while simultaneously blasting the Sabres I'll play devil's (not those Devils) advocate, there's a different between starting the year with a bad team and selling off at the deadline. I don't disagree with the Sabres path, but I can see people thinking there's a difference between "we're going to be bad but we're not going to mortgage the future to try to get to mediocre" and "well, turns out we're bad let's give up for the season". Not a ton of difference, but a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I don't buy Murray thinking Stewart, Gionta, Moulson, Gorges, Benoit and Meszaros were going to be this bad. He thought they were going to improve the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) I don't buy Murray thinking Stewart, Gionta, Moulson, Gorges, Benoit and Meszaros were going to be this bad. He thought they were going to improve the team. I respectfully disagree. I think he had a real good idea that they wouldn't improve the team enough to get out of last place. I think his only miscalcuation was the play of Enroth in December. My guess for next season is that they end up in the 3rd tier of non-playoff teams in the Eastern conference. The Ottawa Senators of 2015-16. They wont be a top contender for the Shart next year but certainly still in the league. Edited March 13, 2015 by Crusader1969 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) Which team will be worse than Buffalo next season? Arizona? Zona is likely all in for their own homegrown Auston Matthews in the 2016 draft. That's likely their target. Carolina might be worse than they were this year too, but I do see EDM improving. Still expect Buffalo to finish bottom 4 next season, and with the first 3 picks decided by lottery, anything can happen. Bottom line tho is that BUF has no more veteran pieces to sell-off... so it's all building from here on out, however they'll still suck next season. Edited March 13, 2015 by pi2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) I respectfully disagree. I think he had a real good idea that they wouldn't improve the team enough to get out of last place. I think his only miscalcuation was the play of Enroth in December. My guess for next season is that they end up in the 3rd tier of non-playoff teams in the Eastern conference. The Ottawa Senators of 2015-16. They wont be a top contender for the Shart next year but certainly still in the league. Yes and no. I agree he thought the team would be bad enough to be in the hunt for McDavid. But I think he also thought the team would score more goals and be competitive in more games. Maybe plus 10 to 15 points extra with the veteran additions, but minus a half-dozen more because of no Miller? That's still a 60-point lottery team. I don't buy the popular idea that he carefully calculated a 50-point team from the get-go. He's tried to ensure that at the deadline, but he didn't start the season preaching lose at all costs. Ted Black has done a masterful job at removing accountability from everyone in this organization. Like Teddy Nolan, Murray has benefitted from it. As for next year, the Ottawa comparison is where my expectations are too. Edited March 13, 2015 by dudacek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Which team will be worse than Buffalo next season? Arizona? Zona is likely all in for their own homegrown Auston Matthews in the 2016 draft. That's likely their target. Carolina might be worse than they were this year too, but I do see EDM improving. Still expect Buffalo to finish bottom 4 next season, and with the first 3 picks decided by lottery, anything can happen. Bottom line tho is that BUF has no more veteran pieces to sell-off... so it's all building from here on out, however they'll still suck next season. This. Any player movement will be based on improving the team not getting value for expiring contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 . Jackets score 43 seconds in. Edmonton down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smj Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 what I don't understand is why people complain about the Sabres tanking when Edmonton is doing an even more obvious tank job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 what I don't understand is why people complain about the Sabres tanking when Edmonton is doing an even more obvious tank job! Edmonton isn't losing on purpose, they just blow. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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