IKnowPhysics Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 (edited) Hodgson, Messyzaros, and the NYI 2. Maybe throw us a 4th. Edited February 5, 2015 by IKnowPhysics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Evander Kane isn't that appealing either. He scored 30 goals once....big whoop. He's the same player as Chris Stewart with more tread on his tires. Not worth the hoopla he is getting. Not sure about the Stewart comparison, but I agree that some of these trade proposals on here are way too high for this guy. Locker problems, major injuries,and he's never come close to replicating that one great season he had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Hodgson, Messyzaros, and the NYI 2. Maybe throw us a 4th. Never knew the wookie knew physics :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHawerchuk10 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Not sure about the Stewart comparison, but I agree that some of these trade proposals on here are way too high for this guy. Locker problems, major injuries,and he's never come close to replicating that one great season he had. The comparison is more from the viewpoint that his potential has blinded people of his real production, which is average at best. They are also power forwards who are good in spurts and can play physical, but leave you thirsting for more both from a physical perspective and production. Maybe I'd trade Hodgson for him...but that is pretty much it. Attitude issues are a major red flag, and this team needs none of that going forward, especially with all the other young talent we are about to cultivate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Holy ###### no... Think you may have missed a key word in his post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted February 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Think you may have missed a key word in his post Did. Peeing into own eyes for self-punishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Did. Peeing into own eyes for self-punishment. Call it punishment or whatever makes it sound better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Rangers, Caps and Jets each have to scouts scheduled to be in FNC Tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted February 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Call it punishment or whatever makes it sound better Enjoyment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Bob McKenzie retweeted Ryan Rishaug @TSNRyanRishaug · 41m41 minutes ago Winnipeg has officially put Evander Kane on IR retro to 2/2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 But is Kane a Nolan kind of player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Is he a Tim Murray type of player? Teddy may not be here when it matters. I like Ted but I think Timmy changes course when he feels the need for a development coach. He may view Ted as a get the most out of a tank lineup guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Agreed. They might take a rental, an NHL-level prospect and a pick for him. Stafford/Stewart, Grigorenko/Pysyk and a late first? I would do that, especially if it's Pysyk. Still think it may be just short. Then ask if they will take coho to close the deal. I think you are bang on with your assessment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted February 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Then ask if they will take coho to close the deal. I think you are bang on with your assessment. I think Hodgson may add some value if we retain salary so it's not a bad idea. If the idea of us buying him out is real then why not deal him and just retain salary instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 I still don't think we should make any moves other than unloading our ufa's at the deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sicknfla Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 I still don't think we should make any moves other than unloading our ufa's at the deadline. I don't agree. We can't continue to unload every UFA we have and replace them with picks. There is not a prospect in our system that can join our team next year that will be a better player than Stewart.You can almost say the same thing for Stafford. There is no goalie in our system that will do a better job than Enroth. At some point Murray has to acquire players that are proven. IF I can get Kane for something similar to Stewart/Pysyk/a 1st I do it all day long. Then I bring Stewart back in the summer. Stewart would also be good in mentoring Kane IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 I don't agree. We can't continue to unload every UFA we have and replace them with picks. There is not a prospect in our system that can join our team next year that will be a better player than Stewart.You can almost say the same thing for Stafford. There is no goalie in our system that will do a better job than Enroth. At some point Murray has to acquire players that are proven. IF I can get Kane for something similar to Stewart/Pysyk/a 1st I do it all day long. Then I bring Stewart back in the summer. Stewart would also be good in mentoring Kane IMO. For his own sake I hope Stafford moves on, either in a trade or as a free agent. The best thing for him is to get into a situation without all the history or baggage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patty16 Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 I don't agree. We can't continue to unload every UFA we have and replace them with picks. There is not a prospect in our system that can join our team next year that will be a better player than Stewart.You can almost say the same thing for Stafford. There is no goalie in our system that will do a better job than Enroth. At some point Murray has to acquire players that are proven. IF I can get Kane for something similar to Stewart/Pysyk/a 1st I do it all day long. Then I bring Stewart back in the summer. Stewart would also be good in mentoring Kane IMO. Agreed but you certainly aren't going to build a contender by overpaying for assets either. 3 pieces for Kane was too much beforeeeeee his latest incident. The asking price as dropped to a roster player, it was never two roster players plus a first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sicknfla Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Agreed but you certainly aren't going to build a contender by overpaying for assets either. 3 pieces for Kane was too much beforeeeeee his latest incident. The asking price as dropped to a roster player, it was never two roster players plus a first. Stewart is UFA, Pysyk is in AHL, and the first would be late round. I don't think they, or anybody, is going to get him for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patty16 Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Stewart is UFA, Pysyk is in AHL, and the first would be late round. I don't think they, or anybody, is going to get him for nothing. of course not but trading arguably the best UFA forward, our top D prospect and a 1st is oerpaying by a lot. The going price is one piece.http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/scouts-price-on-evander-kane-has-dropped-winnipeg-jets-trade-deadline/ why would you overpay? Sounds like that WGR guy who says do whatever it takes....well that's why he's on the radio not making NHL trades. No one is going to pay that to get Kane given his issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sicknfla Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 of course not but trading arguably the best UFA forward, our top D prospect and a 1st is oerpaying by a lot. The going price is one piece.http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/scouts-price-on-evander-kane-has-dropped-winnipeg-jets-trade-deadline/ why would you overpay? Sounds like that WGR guy who says do whatever it takes....well that's why he's on the radio not making NHL trades. No one is going to pay that to get Kane given his issues. If they want a current rostered player it will not be Mitchell, Ellis, Benoit, etc. That is why I give them my offer. If that is too much Murray could always ask for a 2nd as well. I just don't want to give up one of our few decent rostered players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted February 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 From Lavoie: Talks intensified between Ducks and Sabres on Tyler Myers. Other teams have interest in Myers. Can he be traded ? Its a real possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 I don't agree. We can't continue to unload every UFA we have and replace them with picks. There is not a prospect in our system that can join our team next year that will be a better player than Stewart.You can almost say the same thing for Stafford. There is no goalie in our system that will do a better job than Enroth. At some point Murray has to acquire players that are proven. IF I can get Kane for something similar to Stewart/Pysyk/a 1st I do it all day long. Then I bring Stewart back in the summer. Stewart would also be good in mentoring Kane IMO. Reinhart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Reinhart? Armia? McEichel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sicknfla Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Reinhart? I hope so but I think we can count on him in '16-'17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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