respk Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 So far I like what Murray is doing and I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on the Ehrhoff buyout. I'm wondering how the rest of the NHL players view it. Not so much that it was done but in the way it was done with basically calling out the player in some real and implied statements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 First of all, it should be clear to anyone now - This team HAD no assets left. Pure and simple. Anyone remotely worth anything went at the deadline. If there were any takers for Ehrhoff whatsoever, don't you think he would've been gone then? Getting an expensive d-man, who doesn't want to be part of a rebuild, and comes with an imminent threat of a cap penalty, both off the books and off the roster is not mismanaging an "asset", it's handling a cluster###### you didn't create, but have been given the task to clean up after. He said this morning that there were indeed offers for CE, as in plural. He just felt that CE was almost untradeable because of the contract and the offer would have had to blow him away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 If Darcy Regier had bought out Ehrhoff and received nothing in return for an asset, this board would be ablaze with comments ripping Regier for mismanaging an important asset. However, if Tim Murray mismanages an important asset, he is praised as a conquering hero! Enjoy your honeymoon Mr. Murray. Someday the jackals will be at your door. No Murray is just mopping up Reiger's messes.... nothing mis-managed by Murray.. just dealing with the what he was dealt. Obviously nobody wanted Ehrhoff with the contract Darcy gave him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kballhog Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 I am liking GMTM as well! It was way past due to change the culture... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Shouldn't the hockey God have won something...anything before he is given a mandate to rule hockey heaven? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 No Murray is just mopping up Reiger's messes.... nothing mis-managed by Murray.. just dealing with the what he was dealt. Obviously nobody wanted Ehrhoff with the contract Darcy gave him Murray said he had multiple offers for Ehrhoff, so that last part is just false. The potential recapture penalty scared Murray enough to not take the offers. It really is that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 (edited) He said this morning that there were indeed offers for CE, as in plural. He just felt that CE was almost untradeable because of the contract and the offer would have had to blow him away. The way I understand that, is that part of those offers meant he would've had to take bad contracts in return, and for whatever reason, decided the particular players involved in said deals weren't someone he wanted here. If a player requires bad contracts coming the other way in order to move him, then - by my understanding of it - he's not an "asset". He's just a bad contract being unloaded for another bad contract. Others may disagree, but that's how I perceive an asset. Edited June 30, 2014 by Kristian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 This was quick http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=3ab71e9ec6f63436dcac8ea44&id=ecae3f64b5&e=e898b1738d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 (edited) X with an opus and I'm loving the four horsemen! Who gets here first Samson, or Nikita? Or do I get me both this year? Is this the right direction? Who the ###### knows? At least it is a direction. Edited June 30, 2014 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsixspd Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Is someone in charge at the Trending Buffalo website a member of this forum? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 The way I understand that, is that part of those offers meant he would've had to take bad contracts in return, and for whatever reason, decided the particular players involved in said deals weren't someone he wanted here. If a player requires bad contracts coming the other way in order to move him, then - by my understanding of it - he's not an "asset". He's just a bad contract being unloaded for another bad contract. Others may disagree, but that's how I perceive an asset. As stated by TrueBlue right above you, the only thing that prevented a trade was the cap recapture. The Hoffs deal is "only"$1M per the last three as i understand it, so GMTM envisons Hoff not playing for that sum and retiring, forcing a $10M cap hit if in last year, right when he sees us in the middle of a being a contender for multiple Cups. Pretty easy to understand why he was not tradeable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 (edited) Murray said he had multiple offers for Ehrhoff, so that last part is just false. The potential recapture penalty scared Murray enough to not take the offers. It really is that simple. Yes and those offers did nothing to offset the penalties that could of came down the road. It is that simple.. WRAP YOUR HEAD AROUND IT. Nobody was offering enough or what it would take to offset that potential penalty. Murray rahter have the cap space in the future guaranteed. I have no issues with that because we have a plenty of assets in our system and plenty of firepower to add more in the short term Edited June 30, 2014 by ddaryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Is someone in charge at the Trending Buffalo website a member of this forum? :lol: I think they need to print up a shirt with a hand hitting the snooze button of a digital alarm clock where the time reads 5:50...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 No Murray is just mopping up Reiger's messes.... nothing mis-managed by Murray.. just dealing with the what he was dealt. Obviously nobody wanted Ehrhoff with the contract Darcy gave him That mess was created by the league too. I think they need to print up a shirt with a hand hitting the snooze button of a digital alarm clock where the time reads 5:50...... The time should read 5:45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blugold43 Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 This was quick http://us2.campaign-...b5&e=e898b1738d That shirt with his face on it is hilarious. BRAVO... :clapping: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester Springs Rich Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 So.... Tyler Myers is next to go? :D I don't think so, for a couple of reasons - we actually need his cap heavy hit to help get us to the cap floor and its to soon to give up on him. Not comparing him to Pronger or Chara, but they went through similar experiences at this age. Give Myers one more year, at least,. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PP Slapper Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 I think they need to print up a shirt with Tim Murray's hand hitting Ehrhoff's PP Fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 (edited) As stated by TrueBlue right above you, the only thing that prevented a trade was the cap recapture. The Hoffs deal is "only"$1M per the last three as i understand it, so GMTM envisons Hoff not playing for that sum and retiring, forcing a $10M cap hit if in last year, right when he sees us in the middle of a being a contender for multiple Cups. Pretty easy to understand why he was not tradeable Fair enough, but that still means he wasn't an asset. At least to us anyway. Edited June 30, 2014 by Kristian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 He can talk to Lafontaine's empty chair..... :clapping: If Darcy Regier had bought out Ehrhoff and received nothing in return for an asset, this board would be ablaze with comments ripping Regier for mismanaging an important asset. However, if Tim Murray mismanages an important asset, he is praised as a conquering hero! The mismanagement was in the original contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Jack, and Jack is death. In all seriousness, do people like or dislike Murray right now? Like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Really like Murray. Especially after this quote from the presser earlier today. If Buffalo succeeds, Murray knows he’s going to get a lot of the credit, but he knows it’s not all him, “There were assets here, there were good players here. The young guys that are on the team, I talk about Myers and Foligno and Ennis all the time, but also when you have Pysyk and Ristolainen and Zadorov and McCabe on your backend, I mean that’s exciting, so there were good young players that were her before me. If we turn this around it’ll be me getting a lot of the credit, but there’s a foundation here that was here before I got here and I have to recognize that and you have to recognize that.” And this John Vogl @BuffNewsVogl 2m Tim Murray on Sabres' rebuild: "I knew it was a big job, and I know it’s a job that has to be done the proper way, and that’s hard." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 John Vogl @BuffNewsVogl 2m Tim Murray on Sabres' rebuild: "I knew it was a big job, and I know it’s a job that has to be done the proper way, and that’s hard." There's an old saying - if you want to work fast, you have to work slow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Crotch Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 I don't think so, for a couple of reasons - we actually need his cap heavy hit to help get us to the cap floor and its to soon to give up on him. Not comparing him to Pronger or Chara, but they went through similar experiences at this age. Give Myers one more year, at least,. Jeremy White @JeremyWGR Jun 27 Tyler Myers has a large group of Chara-believers left. Those folks might want to acknowledge that Tim Murray isn’t one of them. B-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 That had to be the BEST opening monologue to a thread I have ever seen... You nailed it X! :worthy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Fixed ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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