Jsixspd Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 What did they do wrong? :lol: :lol: :lol: Nolan's probably among the right head coaches for what we're trying to accomplish in the next few years. I don't know that's a compliment, since a good deal of the next year or so entails MOAR tanking! ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 What did they do wrong? IMO? They failed to define the team. What exactly are the Penguins now? How would you define the character of that team? Besides "Hey we're the Pens, we just supposta win". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 I agree for Christ sakes he has two of the best players in the world on his team. And his record without those two in the lineup is still pretty impressive. FFS, he's a good coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 I need a Shero.... I'm willing to help....only if you sign a waiver..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 W IMO? They failed to define the team. What exactly are the Penguins now? How would you define the character of that team? Besides "Hey we're the Pens, we just supposta win". Interesting point. The Pens identity really became "that team with Crosby." In contrast - most teams still alive in these playoffs are defined by the style they play more than by any one player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 IMO? They failed to define the team. What exactly are the Penguins now? How would you define the character of that team? Besides "Hey we're the Pens, we just supposta win". Interesting point. The Pens identity really became "that team with Crosby." In contrast - most teams still alive in these playoffs are defined by the style they play more than by any one player. Good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 If the conventional wisdom is that Nolan gets the axe once the team is closer to contending — at the expedient moment — and you'd be looking for a Bylsma then, why not put the coaching piece in place now? Bylsma? Oh hell no. With the exception of his first year when he was still using Therrien's system, Bylsma as done nothing but lose control of his players and watch the team underachieve. No no no no no no way I'd want him anywhere near the Sabres - now or in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 I just heard that Botterill wasn't fired. I wonder if he is the interim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) I just heard that Botterill wasn't fired. I wonder if he is the interim. yes. Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun Botterill will get strong consideration for Pens GM job but Pens have already reached out to other organizations about other candidates... NBC Sports @NBCSports Assistant general manager Jason Botterill will serve as the Penguins' interim GM and will be a candidate to take the job permanently. Edited May 16, 2014 by LGR4GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 yes. Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun Botterill will get strong consideration for Pens GM job but Pens have already reached out to other organizations about other candidates... Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie 5h PIT assistant GM Jason Botterill likely to take over on an interim basis. Shero likely to immediately become frontrunner for GM job in WSH. Interesting. Thanks. "Reaching out" is the verbal phrase I hate the most in today's journalism. So deliciously vague. It gives the whiff that something has happened however imprecisely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 I don't know that's a compliment, since a good deal of the next year or so entails MOAR tanking! ;) Well, Nolan did show a couple of flashes of trying to untank our tank, until Murray traded away the captain, goalie, leader in points per game, and arguably the hardest working 4th liner we had. But that's what we want on a young team, not what what we want in the tank. FIRE HIM! Then REHIRE HIM NEXT YEAR! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 And his record without those two in the lineup is still pretty impressive. FFS, he's a good coach. So if the Sabres had (arguably) the best two centers on the planet, an all-star winger and defenseman, and continually disappointed in the playoffs, you'd be satisfied with the status quo and defending the coach? I find that a little hard to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 So if the Sabres had (arguably) the best two centers on the planet, an all-star winger and defenseman, and continually disappointed in the playoffs, you'd be satisfied with the status quo and defending the coach? I find that a little hard to believe. Of course not. Sometimes good coaches need a change of scenery. It's common in sports. They're hired to be fired… only in Buffalo does it take almost two decades (GhostTime™). Why shouldn't Murray hire Bylsma this afternoon? Because he wasn't fired, you jackwagon! Shut up! No, you shut up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 Fix the Pens: Malkin for Shea Weber (would never actually happen) D. Pouliot, Beau Bennett and a first for Ryan Kesler. Sign Steve Ott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 The first thing the Pens need to do is get rid of those awful jersey colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 Around the N.H.L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 Around the N.H.L. Was going to mention it, but I had to take advantage of my chance to say "abylsmal" once before doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 Was going to mention it, but I had to take advantage of my chance to say "abylsmal" once before doing so. :w00t: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 I just heard that Botterill wasn't fired. I wonder if he is the interim. Why is he one of the hot GM prospects anyway? If this team failed under Shero's watch, Botterill couldn't have been doing all that much either. Then again, several teams have passed on him already, so maybe he's not the future GM that some like to make him out as. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Why is he one of the hot GM prospects anyway? If this team failed under Shero's watch, Botterill couldn't have been doing all that much either. Then again, several teams have passed on him already, so maybe he's not the future GM that some like to make him out as. I always liked Shero. I would re-hire Shero. He's the best on the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 I always liked Shero. I would re-hire Shero. He's the best on the market. I would like to hear what Craig Patrick has to say first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 (edited) I would like to hear what Craig Patrick has to say first. That would be an interesting discussion. I'm still really delighted that Patrick is on board. Edited May 19, 2014 by X. Benedict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 I'm still really delighted that Patrick is on board. Yeah. Me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 was just thinking the same, maybe they can get shero in as assistant gm or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 was just thinking the same, maybe they can get shero in as assistant gm or something. Doubt Murray or Shero would want that. Shero demanded that he get the final say in all hockey decisions in Pittsburgh. Doubt he takes a backseat role to a new guy like that. I think Shero will wait and see if he can get a real GM role which I won't be shocked if he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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