PASabreFan Posted September 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 You could also have the question phrased as "on a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being excellent and 1 being atrocious, how would you rate Pegula?" That would be a bit more specific and quantifiable. Just a suggestion. I like that. I also don't know how I feel about public polls. Sanctity of the ballot box and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 You could also have the question phrased as "on a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being excellent and 1 being atrocious, how would you rate Pegula?" That would be a bit more specific and quantifiable. Just a suggestion. 9.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 I think one of the questions should reflect an optimism scale. I'm curious to see if people who are unsure with the administration are overly optimistic as some here have claimed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 This thread is like a circle jerk for sadomasochistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 You could also have the question phrased as "on a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being excellent and 1 being atrocious, how would you rate Pegula?" That would be a bit more specific and quantifiable. Just a suggestion. I can do that. I think one of the questions should reflect an optimism scale. I'm curious to see if people who are unsure with the administration are overly optimistic as some here have claimed. We could split the question, ie rate past performance and/or rate current performance,and rate optimism regarding future performance. That would likely mean that we have a separate poll thread for each person. We're not short on answer choices to questions, as we can have up to 25 choices per question, just limited to three total questions per thread. What's the preference? Pegula/Black/Regier in one poll thread or each having their own poll thread? I probably prefer the former, with the thinking that the polls are all in one place, making them easier to find down the road. But there may be an interest for each person to get their own poll thread with more detailed questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 I also don't know how I feel about public polls. Sanctity of the ballot box and all that. Is the anonymity of our usernames not enough? I think it'd be interesting to see what posters think; it could add a microscopic amount of accountability. Also adds the layer of protection from seeing votes from TrueBluePhD, TrueBluePhD1, TrueBluePhD2, TrueBluePhD_a, TrueBluePhD69, TrueBluePhD_xxx, TrueBluePhD_babygirl16, TrueBluePhD_oldmanballsonlyplease, etc. Not that we see much of that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Is the anonymity of our usernames not enough? I think it'd be interesting to see what posters think; it could add a microscopic amount of accountability. Also adds the layer of protection from seeing votes from TrueBluePhD, TrueBluePhD1, TrueBluePhD2, TrueBluePhD_a, TrueBluePhD69, TrueBluePhD_xxx, TrueBluePhD_babygirl16, TrueBluePhD_oldmanballsonlyplease, etc. Not that we see much of that though. :lol: I don't want this anonymous. This should be no different than a group of friends sitting around having a debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 You could also have the question phrased as "on a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being excellent and 1 being atrocious, how would you rate Pegula?" That would be a bit more specific and quantifiable. Just a suggestion. The scale idea is good, would definitely paint a more accurate picture than a dichotomous choice. Another thing to think about is, what are we trying to get at with this poll? Approval as far as the Sabres are concerned, as far as the area is concerned, and/or as far as how much we like them personally? I'd personally split it into two separate polls, one for job performance and one for likability. I can do that. We could split the question, ie rate past performance and/or rate current performance,and rate optimism regarding future performance. That would likely mean that we have a separate poll thread for each person. We're not short on answer choices to questions, as we can have up to 25 choices per question, just limited to three total questions per thread. What's the preference? Pegula/Black/Regier in one poll thread or each having their own poll thread? I probably prefer the former, with the thinking that the polls are all in one place, making them easier to find down the road. But there may be an interest for each person to get their own poll thread with more detailed questions. The question should be split into evaluations of performance up until this point and expectations of performance going forward. In public opinion parlance, we want to look at retrospective versus prospective evaluations. I'd also like to see a "most responsible" question in which we're asked who we hold most responsible for the current state of the team. Is the anonymity of our usernames not enough? I think it'd be interesting to see what posters think; it could add a microscopic amount of accountability. Also adds the layer of protection from seeing votes from TrueBluePhD, TrueBluePhD1, TrueBluePhD2, TrueBluePhD_a, TrueBluePhD69, TrueBluePhD_xxx, TrueBluePhD_babygirl16, TrueBluePhD_oldmanballsonlyplease, etc. Not that we see much of that though. Problem is if the poll is public, we're less likely to know what people actually think. Our usernames are our persona, it really adds no anonymity to an exercise like this--it's not more secret than your real name being revealed in a real survey. A poll being public will alter answers, even if people don't do it consciously. Anonymous poll all the way IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Quit talking and whip out the poll for christ's sake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Quit talking and whip out the poll for christ's sake! ...and that's what she said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted September 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Quit talking and whip out the poll for christ's sake! It takes time. Physics was in the pool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Problem is if the poll is public, we're less likely to know what people actually think. Our usernames are our persona, it really adds no anonymity to an exercise like this--it's not more secret than your real name being revealed in a real survey. A poll being public will alter answers, even if people don't do it consciously. Anonymous poll all the way IMO. That's the problem with polls on message boards. You have this big discussion window attached to it. Even if the poll itself doesn't identify the votes, that series of pages afterwards where people defend their stance gives away the vote anyway. You want anonymity, you can't have any posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Nice to see the fans are as aggressive and decisive as Darcy........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Alright, a little less conversation, a little more action. It's public. I'm less convinced that a public poll will skew results on this board than I am interested in the fun, friendly nature of knowing what we all think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Good call on the poll, but I'm in the anonymous poll camp (since I'm sure you were wondering what my views on that were). Anyone who wants to speak up on the issue will do so, and a public poll is likely to reduce the number of respondents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted September 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Public poll, IMHO, will skew the results positively for Pegula. But, whatever, he needs all the help he can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Then those who want to criticize him should employ their testicles. Just kidding. I don't think it's a big deal, don't see why others would unless the board is packed with Sabres employees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 This public/private poll thing is genuinely strange to me. By and large, it's a wholly anonymous message board. Why on God's green earth would anyone have any reluctance about being totally honest with their vote? Moreover, who the fook around here has the time (or the interest, frankly) to sift through the voting data in order to build cross-examination material for other members? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Public poll, IMHO, will skew the results positively for Pegula. But, whatever, he needs all the help he can get. Already making excuses. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 This public/private poll thing is genuinely strange to me. By and large, it's a wholly anonymous message board. Why on God's green earth would anyone have any reluctance about being totally honest with their vote? Moreover, who the fook around here has the time (or the interest, frankly) to sift through the voting data in order to build cross-examination material for other members? Uh, like 95% of us here. Is this your first day here? This has been the Summer of the Gotcha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 I'm with Aud. I've been expressing my opinion about Sabres for 40 years and been proven wrong many times. As have, I assume, most posters. Why the ###### would a public poll one an anonymous message board influence my vote? Will D4rk make me the butt of a witty remark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 I'm with Aud. I've been expressing my opinion about Sabres for 40 years and been proven wrong many times. As have, I assume, most posters. Why the ###### would a public poll one an anonymous message board influence my vote? Will D4rk make me the butt of a witty remark? I'm gonna hurt your feelings and not even use lube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 This public/private poll thing is genuinely strange to me. By and large, it's a wholly anonymous message board. Why on God's green earth would anyone have any reluctance about being totally honest with their vote? Moreover, who the fook around here has the time (or the interest, frankly) to sift through the voting data in order to build cross-examination material for other members? Well... Uh, like 95% of us here. Is this your first day here? This has been the Summer of the Gotcha. beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Maybe carp can make charts that track the approval ratings weekly throughout the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Maybe carp can make charts that track the approval ratings weekly throughout the season? That's pretty high effort, but damned if I'm not interested to see how approval rating tracks recent win percentage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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