TrueBlueGED Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 All thing come around. Brown's time will come. Guy has zero cred around league as he not a accountable guy. Mark my words, the day will come where we be talking about Brown getting his behind handed to him... I've never really thought of him as a particularly dirty player. He's gritty, skilled, and goes hard. I like him and I wish him well. In my opinion, Brown is one of those "love to have 'em, hate to play 'em" types. I'll just be completely honest and admit I'd probably want a Sabre to take a run at him if we faced him in a long playoff series. I'm not going to hold his diving against him though, since I see a handful of guys on every team acting like they got hit with a sniper rifle every time another player breaths. For example, there's a .gif somewhere online where Lundqvist is in the butterfly and literally launches himself backwards from a Devil...and the Devil was a good half foot away from even touching him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millbank Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 In my opinion, Brown is one of those "love to have 'em, hate to play 'em" types. I'll just be completely honest and admit I'd probably want a Sabre to take a run at him if we faced him in a long playoff series. I'm not going to hold his diving against him though, since I see a handful of guys on every team acting like they got hit with a sniper rifle every time another player breaths. For example, there's a .gif somewhere online where Lundqvist is in the butterfly and literally launches himself backwards from a Devil...and the Devil was a good half foot away from even touching him. around the league perception . He a guy over three years 900 hits, three fights. His rep with players he a guy who plays game with no respect , hit and run artist. Much talk these days about head hits ect. guys not playing the game with respect for each other. Brown classic example. No surprise you play the game hitting with no regard percentages are you going to hit guys with your knee. There is a way to play the game. Brown does not. imo (hope above not coming across as wise guy, likely should not said it, but like toothpaste once out of tube hard to get back in) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trettioåtta Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 around the league perception . He a guy over three years 900 hits, three fights. His rep with players he a guy who plays game with no respect , hit and run artist. Much talk these days about head hits ect. guys not playing the game with respect for each other. Brown classic example. No surprise you play the game hitting with no regard percentages are you going to hit guys with your knee. There is a way to play the game. Brown does not. imo Why does he need to fight? The fact he has 900 hits and nly 3 fights would suggest they are clean. I think you are making up a lot of what you say to fit your narrative. It should not be a suspension, his knee never moves out and the principle point of contact is the shoulder. Furthermore, they were up 3-1 in the series with like a 99% chance of getting through to the finals, why would he risk missing time in his first Stanley cup final for the sake of this play? It just doesn't make sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 Brown is Kaleta with much more skill (and durability.) They're about the same size (not small, but not particularly big), both play hard every shift, both throw a lot of hits that are usually clean (but definitely cross the line on occasion), and both try to draw penalties. Brown simply has much better hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 Brown in Kaleta with much more skill (and durability.) They're about the same size (not small, but not particularly big), both play hard every shift, both throw a lot of hits that are usually clean (but definitely cross the line on occasion), and both try to draw penalties. Brown simply has much better hands. I'm not familiar enough with Brown since he's out on the left coast, but Kaleta jumps quite a bit. Maybe he's toned it down a bit recently, but I really can't classify most of his hits as clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 All right. I am out of "work jail" as of about half an hour ago. FREEDOM! Did I hear on the radio that Dustin Penner actually made himself useful last night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazielSabre Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 All right. I am out of "work jail" as of about half an hour ago. FREEDOM! Did I hear on the radio that Dustin Penner actually made himself useful last night? His had a pretty good playoffs so far. As far as I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Wow, 2-0 Devils less than 5 minutes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnkirishone Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 watching the replay of Browns hit 2 things stand out to me. 1 he extends the elbow at the last second I assume cause he knows he doesn't have a good line to hit himyet still wants to make contact. 2 He doesn't move his knee but if you watch his skating stance he seems to have a overly wide stance coming into the hit. I think that stance was him making himself as big as possible so that if he missed he would still clip the player with a knee/leg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Pathetic goal allowed by Brodeur. Congrats on letting the Rangers back in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Yeah Marty looked like he wanted to attack the play. If he stays in the butterfly its a no brainer easy save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 I'd like to see another replay of that Callahan goal. I honestly thought the view from behind the play showed a distinct kicking motion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Thought it caught him in the shin pad just above the skate. However I agree with Barry Melrose who says you should be able to kick it in anyway. Its hard enough to score as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Thought it caught him in the shin pad just above the skate. However I agree with Barry Melrose who says you should be able to kick it in anyway. Its hard enough to score as it is. If it's a kicking motion does it matter which part of the leg it hits? I definitely agree you should be able to kick it in...or punch it in for that matter. As long as you don't glove your hand on it and throw it, a goal is a goal as far as I'm concerned. But hey, who needs common sense rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 If it's a kicking motion does it matter which part of the leg it hits? Honestly...no idea lol. But hey, it counted so I guess the point is moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Honestly...no idea lol. But hey, it counted so I guess the point is moot. Assuming Darren Dreger is to be believed, the kicking motion only matters if it goes off the skate. Explains the call to me. Of course, it also shows me that the rule is even dumber than I thought. In other news that second period was the best period I've seen the rangers play all playoffs. And the Rangers just tie on a goofy bounce. Brodeur is awful tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 I thought you weren't allowed to push the goalie into the net with the puck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millbank Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Assuming Darren Dreger is to be believed, the kicking motion only matters if it goes off the skate. Explains the call to me. Of course, it also shows me that the rule is even dumber than I thought. In other news that second period was the best period I've seen the rangers play all playoffs. And the Rangers just tie on a goofy bounce. Brodeur is awful tonight. http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26338 above is rule 49 regarding kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 I can't believe DeBoer hasn't called his timeout yet, Rangers have been absolutely hammering them since the Prust goal....minus this last shift. And holy crap, I think Richards was genuinely trying to score on Lundqvist there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 This game just got crazy. Wild stuff. And then Richards tries to put it around the back boards and ends up shooting it into Lundqvist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millbank Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Has anyone attended game a Madison Square Garden, how does it compare to a Sabre game. Is it loud , fun atmosphere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 watching the replay of Browns hit 2 things stand out to me. 1 he extends the elbow at the last second I assume cause he knows he doesn't have a good line to hit himyet still wants to make contact. 2 He doesn't move his knee but if you watch his skating stance he seems to have a overly wide stance coming into the hit. I think that stance was him making himself as big as possible so that if he missed he would still clip the player with a knee/leg I agree with you on this. Imo it was a dirty hit but what do I know. The consensus would be different on sabrespace had the fallen player been wearing a sabres jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Has anyone attended game a Madison Square Garden, how does it compare to a Sabre game. Is it loud , fun atmosphere? MSG is louder and more fun when the game is going well....but equally as morgue-ish when the game is boring or not gong well. So it has a higher high, but the low point is just as bad. I agree with you on this. Imo it was a dirty hit but what do I know. The consensus would be different on sabrespace had the fallen player been wearing a sabres jersey. That may be the truest thing I've ever seen somebody say in my time on this forum. Personally I think the hit was borderline *at best* and I certainly would have no issues if a suspension had been given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnkirishone Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 I will say from the limited play I have ever seen of Brown I would say the hit was out of character and that it was reckless at best and intent to injure at worst. Having said that there is little on the sabres I wouldn't offer to get him on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 What a finish to that game. In fact, what a game as a whole--really entertaining from start to finish. This game just proves the Rangers don't NEED to be boring, they have the horses to play a more open style....but they choose to play in a defensive shell. This was by far their best overall game of the series, and it was prompted by being in a big hole. If they played this way all the time I think my analysis of their Cup chances would have been much more favorable. To win the Cup, at some point you need to be able to impose your will on the other team....if you constantly play coin-flip hockey, it's eventually going to start landing the wrong way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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